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Old September 26th 18, 02:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_16_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as my fax program will only work with them.

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

Other files like text or other document formats are not garbled when faxxed.

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy
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Old September 26th 18, 05:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

Andy wrote:
I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as my fax program will only work with them.

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

Other files like text or other document formats are not garbled when faxxed.

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy


FAX has ECM, so it's unlikely to be an analog transmission problem.
If there are transmission errors, the sending end will try up to
four times to get the info through.

http://www.garretwilson.com/essays/c...group3fax.html

If your sending fax program has an "onscreen display", you'd
want to monitor that to see if it is parsing the PDF properly.

Paul
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Old September 26th 18, 01:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

In message , Andy
writes:
I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as
my fax program will only work with them.


Seems an odd fax program that will only take .pdf, but OK.

Do the .png and .pdf files look OK when viewed locally before you send
them?

If you pass the .pdf through http://www.extractpdf.com/, do the scans
come back OK?

Are they two-level (black and white), greyscale, or colour images?

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

Other files like text or other document formats are not garbled when faxxed.


I thought you said your fax program would only take .pdf files? Or do
you mean you are using .pdf files of text or other documents, but
produced by something different to whatever you are using to do the .png
to .pdf conversion?

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy

We need to pin down what "thing" is malfunctioning. It could be
o the .png to .pdf conversion software (even if the .pdfs _look_ OK)
o the fax software
o something at faxtoy.net
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

In science, the more you know what you're looking at, the more magical it
becomes. - Professor Brian Cox, in RT 2017/7/15-21
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Old September 26th 18, 06:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_16_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:04:03 AM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Andy
writes:
I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as
my fax program will only work with them.


Seems an odd fax program that will only take .pdf, but OK.

Do the .png and .pdf files look OK when viewed locally before you send
them?

If you pass the .pdf through http://www.extractpdf.com/, do the scans
come back OK?

Are they two-level (black and white), greyscale, or colour images?

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

Other files like text or other document formats are not garbled when faxxed.


I thought you said your fax program would only take .pdf files? Or do
you mean you are using .pdf files of text or other documents, but
produced by something different to whatever you are using to do the .png
to .pdf conversion?

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy

We need to pin down what "thing" is malfunctioning. It could be
o the .png to .pdf conversion software (even if the .pdfs _look_ OK)
o the fax software
o something at faxtoy.net
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

In science, the more you know what you're looking at, the more magical it
becomes. - Professor Brian Cox, in RT 2017/7/15-21


pdf and png files look fine before I send them.

The images are greyscale.

File looks fine on www.extractpdf.com

Andy
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Old September 27th 18, 03:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

In message , Andy
writes:
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:04:03 AM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote:
In message , Andy
writes:
I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as
my fax program will only work with them.


Seems an odd fax program that will only take .pdf, but OK.

Do the .png and .pdf files look OK when viewed locally before you send
them?

If you pass the .pdf through http://www.extractpdf.com/, do the scans
come back OK?

Are they two-level (black and white), greyscale, or colour images?

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

.


I thought you said your fax program would only take .pdf files? Or do
you mean you are using .pdf files of text or other documents, but
produced by something different to whatever you are using to do the .png
to .pdf conversion?

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy

We need to pin down what "thing" is malfunctioning. It could be
o the .png to .pdf conversion software (even if the .pdfs _look_ OK)
o the fax software
o something at faxtoy.net
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

In science, the more you know what you're looking at, the more magical it
becomes. - Professor Brian Cox, in RT 2017/7/15-21


pdf and png files look fine before I send them.

The images are greyscale.

File looks fine on www.extractpdf.com

Andy


Interesting.

So when you say "Other files like text or other document formats are not
garbled when faxxed", _are_ you faxing text files, or .pdf files made
from those text files (but using something different to what converted
your .png scans into .pdf)? If you are actually faxing the text files,
then presumably you're using a different faxing utility.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you are afraid of being lonely, don't try to be right. - Jules Renard,
writer (1864-1910)
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Old September 28th 18, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_16_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 9:25:36 PM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Andy
writes:
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:04:03 AM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote:
In message , Andy
writes:
I use Linux, but would like to know if the same problem occurs in Windows.

I scan documents and create .png files which I then convert to pdf as
my fax program will only work with them.

Seems an odd fax program that will only take .pdf, but OK.

Do the .png and .pdf files look OK when viewed locally before you send
them?

If you pass the .pdf through http://www.extractpdf.com/, do the scans
come back OK?

Are they two-level (black and white), greyscale, or colour images?

When I send those pdfs to faxtoy.net(a free fax site), they are garbled.

.

I thought you said your fax program would only take .pdf files? Or do
you mean you are using .pdf files of text or other documents, but
produced by something different to whatever you are using to do the .png
to .pdf conversion?

Does the same thing occur in Windows?

Thanks,
Andy
We need to pin down what "thing" is malfunctioning. It could be
o the .png to .pdf conversion software (even if the .pdfs _look_ OK)
o the fax software
o something at faxtoy.net
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

In science, the more you know what you're looking at, the more magical it
becomes. - Professor Brian Cox, in RT 2017/7/15-21


pdf and png files look fine before I send them.

The images are greyscale.

File looks fine on www.extractpdf.com

Andy


Interesting.

So when you say "Other files like text or other document formats are not
garbled when faxxed", _are_ you faxing text files, or .pdf files made
from those text files (but using something different to what converted
your .png scans into .pdf)? If you are actually faxing the text files,
then presumably you're using a different faxing utility.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you are afraid of being lonely, don't try to be right. - Jules Renard,
writer (1864-1910)


Text files converted to pdf files.

I decided to just use one of the free online fax sites.

Andy
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Old September 28th 18, 01:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Faxxing png converted to pdf

Andy wrote:

Text files converted to pdf files.

I decided to just use one of the free online fax sites.


It's just possible when you say "garbled", it's just
feathering on the edge of fonts which is screwed up
by the color conversion step that could be happening.

If you can show us a picture with the "before" and
"after", it makes it easier for us to figure out what
"garbled" means.

Paul
 




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