Windows 10 Version 1909

I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019. Now my question is is it still the latest version apart
from the monthly updates? Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation.
IOW, has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put
on the Microsoft download page.

On 1/11/20 9:40 PM, Billy wrote:
I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019.Â* Now my question is is it still the latest version apart
from the monthly updates?Â* Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation. IOW,
has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put on
the Microsoft download page.



If you still have the ISO, download the new one and compare them. Do
an MD5 or SHA256 on them both.

If you have tons of DVD's then just download it and make a new DVD.
DVD's are cheep!

Al

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On 1/11/20 9:40 PM, Billy wrote:
I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019.* Now my question is is it still the latest version apart
from the monthly updates?* Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation. IOW,
has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put on
the Microsoft download page.



If you still have the ISO, download the new one and compare them. Do
an MD5 or SHA256 on them both.

If you have tons of DVD's then just download it and make a new DVD.
DVD's are cheep!

Al

And as far as I'm concerned slowly being fazed out. Many stores no
longer carry any at all and when you do find some they're more expensive
then they used to be by approx 25% right now. I keep hoping I'll walk in
somewhere has a couple "hundred stacks" for purchase but what I do see
is more like 10's and 25's stacks.

Billy wrote:
I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019. Now my question is is it still the latest version apart
from the monthly updates? Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation.
IOW, has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put
on the Microsoft download page.

Just use the media you've got, then the OS will install
the latest Cumulative anyway. It's not like you're
going to beat the system by ramming stuff in there.
Sooner or later (a couple more days), another Cumulative
comes out and the game begins again.

If you wanted to ram and jam, you'd do the following:

1) Unplug network cable on target PC.
2) Bring over November DVD. Install.
3) Bring over Dec 2019 Cumulative Update for Windows 10
(catalog.update.microsoft.com). Jan 2020 will be out soon.
4) Bring over latest Adobe Flash Update for Windows 10.
5) Bring over the latest Windows Defender. There
is a download page for WD definition files, files
in the 100-150MB range. Files are only useful for a
few hours so age rapidly.
6) Bring over the latest NVidia driver for your video
card. Could be 500MB. Nice, if it's one you've used
to solve this problem on previous occasions. There
are other brands of video of course.

Once you whapped all those in, you'd reconnect the network
cable. Now, the PC will connect to the Windows Store and
reinstall all the "valid" Store entries, such as the
Flappy Birds eval they put on the machine (which you
didn't want) and so on.

The machine will also download background images for the
screen, it'll download News items for the Tile Panel,
and so on. The downloading won't stop, but with the
five steps above, you're reduced the magnitude of
files needed to finish the job.

Or, you could just use the November DVD, walk away
from the machine, and let it update itself. Maybe
1GB or 1.5GB later, the machine is "done".

Staging only pays off if you're doing ten machines
or something.

Staging also pays off, if you're living in the woods
and on Hughes Satellite and don't want to hit your cap.
(You go to the public library and load up a USB stick
with the ramming and jamming kit.)

But really, Windows 10 and 2GB/mo satellite is not
an ideal situation. One burp or fart, and you're over
your limit again.

Paul

On 1/11/20 11:35 PM, pjp wrote:
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On 1/11/20 9:40 PM, Billy wrote:
I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019.Â* Now my question is is it still the latest version apart
from the monthly updates?Â* Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation. IOW,
has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put on
the Microsoft download page.



If you still have the ISO, download the new one and compare them. Do
an MD5 or SHA256 on them both.

If you have tons of DVD's then just download it and make a new DVD.
DVD's are cheep!

Al

And as far as I'm concerned slowly being fazed out. Many stores no
longer carry any at all and when you do find some they're more expensive
then they used to be by approx 25% right now. I keep hoping I'll walk in
somewhere has a couple "hundred stacks" for purchase but what I do see
is more like 10's and 25's stacks.

Not sure where you are, but in US I was just in Microcenter Monday and
they had lots of 100 tubes. CDs DVDs.

Al

Big Al wrote:
On 1/11/20 11:35 PM, pjp wrote:
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On 1/11/20 9:40 PM, Billy wrote:
I downloaded and created a DVD drive for Windows 10 - 1909 on 22nd
November, 2019. Now my question is is it still the latest version
apart
from the monthly updates? Would it make any difference if I download
again and create yet another DVD to use for the clean installation.
IOW,
has the ISO changed or likely to have changed since it was last put on
the Microsoft download page.



If you still have the ISO, download the new one and compare them. Do
an MD5 or SHA256 on them both.

If you have tons of DVD's then just download it and make a new DVD.
DVD's are cheep!

Al

And as far as I'm concerned slowly being fazed out. Many stores no
longer carry any at all and when you do find some they're more expensive
then they used to be by approx 25% right now. I keep hoping I'll walk in
somewhere has a couple "hundred stacks" for purchase but what I do see
is more like 10's and 25's stacks.

Not sure where you are, but in US I was just in Microcenter Monday and
they had lots of 100 tubes. CDs DVDs.

Al

Good brand or bad brand ?

For example, back when my main computer store featured
optical media, there was a lot of Memorex on the tables.
(They had around six cubic meters of stock on the tables.)
That was one brand that I stayed away from, after my
"CDRWs go transparent" episode :-/ Only took about
three months for all the media to become unrecoverable.
So unrecoverable, the laser couldn't lock to the groove.
It wasn't "bad bytes", it was "no bytes at all".

I haven't had any media do that, since, but it was
a valuable lesson.

Who makes the media (the media tag on the disc) is
not printed on the packaging, because if the companies
were required to do that, certain companies would go
bust as a result. The business is based on dishonesty.

I used to be able to buy Maxell and Verbatim, and be
reasonably assured I'd get Ritek. I think Fujitsu used
something like that too. You only find out though,
when you go home and check. I don't know if there
was anything at my computer store with Taiyo Yuden
on it.

And lots of stuff at retail, used to be "2X rubbish".
You always had this fantasy that some day, some day,
8X DVDs would be on that table. But nooooo... Maybe
4X was the best you were going to do. Even though the
drive itself might have been rated at an imaginary
20X or so (faster than the speed of light in a vacuum).

I burned something the other day, it took *30 minutes*
for the burn to finish (erase,burn,verify). Classy.

Paul

Paul wrote:

Good brand or bad brand ?

For example, back when my main computer store featured
optical media, there was a lot of Memorex on the tables.

Pure junk.

(They had around six cubic meters of stock on the tables.)
That was one brand that I stayed away from, after my
"CDRWs go transparent" episode :-/ Only took about
three months for all the media to become unrecoverable.
So unrecoverable, the laser couldn't lock to the groove.
It wasn't "bad bytes", it was "no bytes at all".

In the brick and mortar they only carry the cheap junk. Even if you by
Verbatim it is the garbage "Data Life" version. I can only get the AZO
online, and you still have to be very careful to make sure you are
getting the real AZO dye versions.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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In the brick and mortar they only carry the cheap junk. Even if you by
Verbatim it is the garbage "Data Life" version. I can only get the AZO
online, and you still have to be very careful to make sure you are
getting the real AZO dye versions.

Until a few years ago, about evey tenth driveway in the area
where I live led to a recording studio. I spent some time at
some of them and the disk of choice was from Taiyo Yuden. I
believe these used the AZO dye. They were bought out by JVC
a while back. I used to order 100-packs of disks from Uline.

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wrote:


Until a few years ago, about evey tenth driveway in the area
where I live led to a recording studio. I spent some time at
some of them and the disk of choice was from Taiyo Yuden. I
believe these used the AZO dye. They were bought out by JVC
a while back. I used to order 100-packs of disks from Uline.

only verbatim uses azo.

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lid says...
only verbatim uses azo.


Then I probably mis-remembered. The disks I mean have
a purplish tint. I think Sony blanks do (did?) too.

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, Jason
wrote:

only verbatim uses azo.


Then I probably mis-remembered. The disks I mean have
a purplish tint. I think Sony blanks do (did?) too.

azo are bluish. dvd-r are purplish. the usual cd colours are green or
gold, but there are others.