System Restore Keeping Only One Restore Point

Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for storage is
3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it creates
another automatically, it deletes the previous restore point, so
basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a restore point
manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at least right now I have
two restore points from today, because I just created one. But when SR
creates a new restore point automatically, all previous SR points will be
deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System Restore
and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

Thanks in advance,
Danno

"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it creates
another automatically, it deletes the previous restore point, so
basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a restore point
manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at least right now I
have two restore points from today, because I just created one. But
when SR creates a new restore point automatically, all previous SR
points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%, how
about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what happens? BTW,
turning off System Restore will delete restore points!

Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out of 40. I
knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last restore point, but
since I only had one restore point.... nothing to lose. I'll try it by
increasing the amount of space available once more, but I doubt that will
work because even when I'd allocated 12% space (default) rather than 3%
(which should be plenty), the same thing was happening.

Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for storage
is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it creates
another automatically, it deletes the previous restore point, so
basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a restore point
manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at least right now I
have two restore points from today, because I just created one. But when
SR creates a new restore point automatically, all previous SR points will
be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%, how
about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what happens? BTW,
turning off System Restore will delete restore points!

Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and unlikely
to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore removes all
restore points. Using the System Restore option on the More Options tab
of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest restore point.

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements? Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out of
40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last restore
point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing to lose.
I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available once more,
but I doubt that will work because even when I'd allocated 12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing was
happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%, how
about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what happens?
BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore points!

Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner instead), I
don't click the option to "remove all but the last restore point".

I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as well as
ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is active.
I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm before I do that.

I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background as far
as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode to clean
the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and unlikely to
be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore removes all
restore points. Using the System Restore option on the More Options tab of
Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest restore point.

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements? Also what firewall
are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out of
40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last restore
point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing to lose. I'll
try it by increasing the amount of space available once more,
but I doubt that will work because even when I'd allocated 12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing was
happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%, how
about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what happens?
BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore points!

Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with version
6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as well
as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode to
clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware
arrangements? Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd
allocated 12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

Hey Gerry,

The version of ZoneAlarm is 7.0.743.000

SR only monitors my internal C: drive. I didn't know it could monitor any
other drive! I a new external DVD burner which is run by Nero. Is that
what you were asking?

I've only used cCleaner to clean up my disc because it seems pretty thorough
as you mentioned, but I never had any intentions of using it, nor any other
method... to delete restore points. I didn't mind a dozen or more restore
points in the past. It's just that now, when the computer is creating a new
restore point and deletes the previous one(s). As of this moment, there are
3 restore points because I created 2 new ones today. I wanted to test if
the system will delete those as well, when it sets a new restore point
(probably sometime in the wee hours of tonight).

Thanks again for your interest.

Danno

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with version
6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as well
as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode to
clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?
Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd allocated
12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

Dang... it did it again!

Yesterday there was one restore point which had been created automatically
by the system. That was the only restore point available. So I created two
new restore points throughout the day, to see if the SR would delete all but
the last restore point once again. Today, I updated a driver and at that
point in time, SR created a restore point, and when it did that.... it
deleted the last restore point which had been created automatically, and
deleted one of my two test restore points. The net result today is that
there are two restore points only.... one of my own points and an automatic
restore point created when I updated the driver.

I'd sure appreciate any other suggestions or input.

Thanks again...
Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with version
6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as well
as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode to
clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?
Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd allocated
12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

This happened to me once because a granddaughter downloaded and installed a
program after being told not to download anything.
My approach to this is to clean out the startup folder. (start--
run --msconfig---and remove all checks in start up.
Let the system load only Microsoft programs such as OE IE etc. Then add one
or two programs back till you find the offending program.
The offending program (in my case) was doing this to prevent uninstalling
it.
My granddaughter will never use my system again.
"Danno" wrote in message
news:mzFZj.159589$rd2.7501@pd7urf3no...
Dang... it did it again!

Yesterday there was one restore point which had been created automatically
by the system. That was the only restore point available. So I created
two new restore points throughout the day, to see if the SR would delete
all but the last restore point once again. Today, I updated a driver and
at that point in time, SR created a restore point, and when it did
that.... it deleted the last restore point which had been created
automatically, and deleted one of my two test restore points. The net
result today is that there are two restore points only.... one of my own
points and an automatic restore point created when I updated the driver.

I'd sure appreciate any other suggestions or input.

Thanks again...
Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with version
6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as well
as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode to
clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?
Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd allocated
12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept.... at
least right now I have two restore points from today, because I
just created one. But when SR creates a new restore point
automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on System
Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

"Unknown" wrote in message
...
This happened to me once because a granddaughter downloaded and
installed a program after being told not to download anything.
My approach to this is to clean out the startup folder. (start--
run --msconfig---and remove all checks in start up.
Let the system load only Microsoft programs such as OE IE etc. Then
add one or two programs back till you find the offending program.
The offending program (in my case) was doing this to prevent
uninstalling it.

What was the name of the program?

Danno

You should not be using a registry cleaner. I would dump jv16powertools.

ZoneAlarm 7.0.743.000 is the Freeware Firewall. What version is your
anti-spyware?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Dang... it did it again!

Yesterday there was one restore point which had been created
automatically by the system. That was the only restore point
available. So I created two new restore points throughout the day,
to see if the SR would delete all but the last restore point once
again. Today, I updated a driver and at that point in time, SR
created a restore point, and when it did that.... it deleted the last
restore point which had been created automatically, and deleted one
of my two test restore points. The net result today is that there
are two restore points only.... one of my own points and an automatic
restore point created when I updated the driver.
I'd sure appreciate any other suggestions or input.

Thanks again...
Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with
version 6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as
well as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode
to clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware
arrangements? Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd
allocated 12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept....
at least right now I have two restore points from today,
because I just created one. But when SR creates a new restore
point automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on
System Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

ZoneAlarm version 7.0.743.000 may be the Freeware Firewall, but that's the
version I got when I paid good money for it (about 6 weeks ago). The entire
list of versions that came with ZA's suite are as follows:

ZoneAlarm Security Suite version:7.0.473.000
TrueVector version:7.0.473.000
Driver version:7.0.473.000
Anti-virus engine version:3
Anti-virus SDK version:5.0.1.85
Anti-virus signature DAT file version:951551049
Anti-spyware engine version:5.0.189.0
Anti-spyware signature DAT file version:01.200805.3945
AntiSpam version:5.0.6.8903

Maybe I should disable ZoneAlarm altogether for 3 or 4 days, and use the
built in Windows firewall... just to test if ZA is involved in any way with
my dilemma.

p.s.: when you get time, get your butt over here to western Canada for a
visit :-)


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

You should not be using a registry cleaner. I would dump jv16powertools.

ZoneAlarm 7.0.743.000 is the Freeware Firewall. What version is your
anti-spyware?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Dang... it did it again!

Yesterday there was one restore point which had been created
automatically by the system. That was the only restore point
available. So I created two new restore points throughout the day,
to see if the SR would delete all but the last restore point once
again. Today, I updated a driver and at that point in time, SR
created a restore point, and when it did that.... it deleted the last
restore point which had been created automatically, and deleted one
of my two test restore points. The net result today is that there
are two restore points only.... one of my own points and an automatic
restore point created when I updated the driver.
I'd sure appreciate any other suggestions or input.

Thanks again...
Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

What version of Zone Alarm do you have? There were problems with
version 6.5.

What drives do you have System Restore set to monitor? Do you have an
external or removable drive?

You cannot cCleaner to remove unwanted restore points. In other ways
cCleaner does a more thorough job than Disk CleanUp.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Thanks Gerry,

When I use Disk CleanUp, (which is seldom because I use CCleaner
instead), I don't click the option to "remove all but the last
restore point".
I have ZoneAlarm as the anti-spyware and anti-virus software, as
well as ZoneAlarm's firewall.

I also have AVG installed, but I don't let it run while ZoneAlarm is
active. I only fire up AVG once in a while but I disable ZoneAlarm
before I do that.
I also have Spybot and AdAware, but they don't run in the background
as far as I can tell. I only start them up once in a while as well.

I also have jv16powertools, but I only use that on its safest mode
to clean the registry once in a while.

Danno


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Your original disk space setting for System Restore was OK and
unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Turning off System Restore
removes all restore points. Using the System Restore option on the
More Options tab of Disk CleanUp removes all except the latest
restore point. What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware
arrangements? Also what
firewall are you using? These can interfere with System Restore.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Danno wrote:
Thanks for the input Dave. My hard drive has 25 gig available out
of 40. I knew that turning off SR would delete all but the last
restore point, but since I only had one restore point.... nothing
to lose. I'll try it by increasing the amount of space available
once more, but I doubt that will work because even when I'd
allocated 12% space
(default) rather than 3% (which should be plenty), the same thing
was happening.
Danno


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:YzfZj.286412$pM4.19776@pd7urf1no...
Hello,

I have the system restore turned on. The space I've allowed for
storage is 3% or 1075 MB.

But System Restore is only keeping one restore point. When it
creates another automatically, it deletes the previous restore
point, so basically, it's of no value right now. If I create a
restore point manually, the previous restore point is kept....
at least right now I have two restore points from today,
because I just created one. But when SR creates a new restore
point automatically, all previous SR points will be deleted.

I've turned off System Restore, re-booted... then turned on
System Restore and re-booted again. But it's still the same.

I'd sure appreciate any tips on this issue.

How much free space is on your drive? Assuming it's at least 30%,
how about increasing your SR storage size to 10% to see what
happens? BTW, turning off System Restore will delete restore
points!

On Sat, 24 May 2008 01:23:55 GMT, Danno wrote:

snip for brevity

Maybe I should disable ZoneAlarm altogether for 3 or 4 days, and use the
built in Windows firewall... just to test if ZA is involved in any way with
my dilemma.


Very, very sensible approach; IMO, ZA is not worth having.
I'd uninstall the entire ZA suite for good and ask for a refund.
If uninstalling via the Add/Remove program does not work satisfactory then
go to:
http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

Revo Uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/
can also be of assistance

Consider the following:
For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
and Services under the Exception tab.
Read through:
Understanding Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx
Using Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx
Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."
In conjunction with WinXP Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.)

Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.
Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm
or
Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
GMER technology.
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
or
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/
(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

On-demand AV applications.
(add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).
David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
English:
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/...irus-for-free/
Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm
and/or
BitDefender10 Free Edition
http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html

A-S applications - for non-viral malware.
The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss, (grab'em all).

SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html
and
Ad-Aware 2007 - Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
and
Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
and
Windows Defender - Free
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware
and worms to install to the OS.
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

This may solve your original problem:
System Restore for Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm

And routinely practice Safe-Hex.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
Hundreds Click on 'Click Here to Get Infected' Ad
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2132447,00.asp

Good luck

Kayman wrote:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."

Tripe written by an ex-Microsoft puppet who was in charge of security
when the Microsoft firewall was designed. Of course he wouldn't admit
that his brain child lacked useful features so in true Microsoft fashion
he insisted that he was right and that he knew what was best for the
customers, but that isn't new at Microsoft where it's corporate culture
to tell the customers to shut up because Microsoft knows what is best
for everybody. Of course, the chief of security in charge of designing
the firewall that lacked features wanted by the customers had to educate
the customers by telling them that they were dumb to ask for outbound
filtering and the way to prove his point was to embark on a mission to
discredit all firewalls except his beloved creation. To paraphrase one
MVP: "In its firewall Microsoft designed a shirt with no sleeves and
when the customers told Microsoft they wanted sleeves Microsoft embarked
on a mission to convince customers they didn't want or need sleeves."

Meanwhile, customers who knew that egress filtering was not necessarily
meant to strictly or only be a security measure against malware were
left a bit bemused by this new mantra at Microsoft. Customers who
understood the importance of data protection and who understood the
benefits of controlling which applications should be permitted to send
traffic outside the network were told not to concern themselves with the
security of their data, Microsoft had it all under control, there was no
need at all to know which applications were sending data outside the
network and there was even less need to stop any applications from
sending data outside the network. Of course this suited Microsoft the
most, without anyone knowing what was going on Microsoft could ensure
that they could have more of their brain children like WGA, Media
Player, DRM and what not spy on the customers and send data to outside
entities without anyone knowing what was going on, or at least without
anyone without egress detection knowing what was going on.

Although egress filtering should be applied at the perimeter of the
network by way of routers and firewall appliances, detection and
filtering applications at a software (personal) firewall can nonetheless
be a very useful tool and a very useful part of your network or computer
security. Those who know better and who know the place and importance
of egress detection and egress filtering take appropriate measures to
protect their data and their networks, the others, knowingly or not,
listen to and propagate tripe from Microsoft and its puppets. No
network administrator worth his salt would neglect the security risks
posed by egress traffic, SOHO and home computer users would be well
advised to do the same.

Egress Filtering FAQ
http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whi...walls/1059.php

Firewall Best Practices - Egress Traffic Filtering
http://hhi.corecom.com/egresstrafficfiltering.htm

Vincent

Thanks Kayman,

Of all the links and suggestions you offered, one of them might be
surprisingly helpful. Not surprising that Kelly's Korner was helpful, but a
surprise to me at the result.

On Kelly's Korner, I found the category discussing missing SR points,
specifically this:

- Check the event logs to investigate System Restore service errors:

1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click "Performance and
Maintenance".
2. Click Administrative Tools, click Computer Management, double-click Event
Viewer, and then click System.
3. Click the Source tab to sort by name, and then look for "sr" or
"srservice." Double-click each of these services, and then evaluate the
event description for any indication of the cause of the problem.


I followed the advice and lo and behold, there were descriptions of events
that happened with SR. None of the events actually showed up as "errors",
but none-the-less they described that SR was "suspending" and then
"resuming" due to lack of space allocated and then more space being
re-allocated. I was convinced that 3% or 1076MB would be plenty of space,
but apparently not. If I'm not mistaken though, even when I accidentally
had 12% allocated, SR was still only allowing one restore point.

So I've now allocated 10% of disc space or 3700MB to see what happens. That
is an outrageously huge amount of space to allow, but I have to do it for
now.

I'll let you know. Thanks again!

Danno

"Kayman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 May 2008 01:23:55 GMT, Danno wrote:

snip for brevity

Maybe I should disable ZoneAlarm altogether for 3 or 4 days, and use the
built in Windows firewall... just to test if ZA is involved in any way
with
my dilemma.


Very, very sensible approach; IMO, ZA is not worth having.
I'd uninstall the entire ZA suite for good and ask for a refund.
If uninstalling via the Add/Remove program does not work satisfactory then
go to:
http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

Revo Uninstaller
http://www.revouninstaller.com/
can also be of assistance

Consider the following:
For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise safe-hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
and Services under the Exception tab.
Read through:
Understanding Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx
Using Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx
Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater-it's a gimmick that only gives
the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."
In conjunction with WinXP Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.)

Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.
Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm
or
Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
GMER technology.
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
or
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com/
(Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)

Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

On-demand AV applications.
(add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).
David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
English:
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/...irus-for-free/
Additional Instructions:
http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm
and/or
BitDefender10 Free Edition
http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html

A-S applications - for non-viral malware.
The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
another may miss, (grab'em all).

SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html
and
Ad-Aware 2007 - Free
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
and
Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
and
Windows Defender - Free
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent
spyware
and worms to install to the OS.
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

This may solve your original problem:
System Restore for Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm

And routinely practice Safe-Hex.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
Hundreds Click on 'Click Here to Get Infected' Ad
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2132447,00.asp

Good luck