Thunderbird ?

On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.

On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 1/14/20 9:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.




That usually works but not this time.

There is now a second folder there that is apparently needed.

philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 9:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.




That usually works but not this time.

There is now a second folder there that is apparently needed.
Okay one question, what was the version of Thunderbird from which you
are transferring the profile? If it is really old there might be a
conversion needed. Otherwise, no. The other profile is not needed.

If I followed your procedure you used you did not copy the original
profile directory, but copied the *contents* of a profile and place it
in an existing profile directory. Easy to make a mistake IMO.

What I was saying was to copy the *whole* original profile keeping its
name and as long as profiles.ini points to that directory it will work.

In fact I can prove it. NEW will be new system and OLD with be old system:

1) NEW: with Thunderbird not running rename current thunderbird profile.
We will go nuclear here and rename the whole hidden settings directory:

mv ~./.thunderbird ~./.thunderbird-disabled

2) OLD: also with Thunderbird not running copy the old .thunderbird
hidden directory to some thumbdrive or usb drive:

cp .thunderbird /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/

3) NEW: plug in transfer media and copy whole .thunderbird directory to
your home directory:

cp /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/.thunderbird ~/

4) NEW start Thunderbird and you will be using that same profile in the
same profile name as on OLD. No extra profile directories will be
created unless OLD is running some ancient version of Thunderbird.

######
NOTES: Now you really do not have to copy the WHOLE .thunderbird
directory, I was just offering a demonstration. What I do is delete any
profiles directories and delete profiles.ini file on NEW. Then just copy
from OLD the profiles.ini and associated profile WHATEVER.default to NEW

I just installed the PPA on my 16.04 laptop to upgrade from main repo's
60.x to latest 68.4.1

apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
Installed: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
Candidate: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1

And I still only have one profile, and no others...

ll .thunderbird
total 28
drwx------ 5 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20 2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x 71 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 4 17:31 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 1375 Jan 29 2016 abook.mab
drwx------ 3 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 4 21:20 Crash Reports/
drwx------ 2 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20 2018 Pending Pings/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 104 Jan 29 2016 profiles.ini
drwx------ 11 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 14 11:24 ########.default/

The same profile that I have transferred years ago from my old Dell
running 14.04. And it was originally transferred from a Windows system.
All that has to match is the profiles.ini and the name of the profile
directory.


--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 1/14/2020 12:02 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
What I was saying was to copy the*whole* original profile keeping its
name and as long as profiles.ini points to that directory it will work.
The Profile.ini file is more important that the actual folder, as the
Profile.ini directs Thunderbird (and Firefox) to the actual directory to
use when opening.

You can edit the profile.ini file. First, note which profile folder
that Thunderbird is currently using. This can be found from the
troubleshooting tab in the Help tab.

Replace the folder name you found on the Troubleshooting page, with the
name of the folder with your old data.

If in the Profile.ini file, the directory that it is currently pointing
to is x3cec5ye and you copy your old profile folder ae4ce5ce to the
Thunderbird profile folder, in the Profile.ini file replace "x3cec5ye"
with "ae4ce5ce"

There has been some changes in Thunderbird where the data and files were
modified in the new version, so if you were using something other that
the previous version you may get an error message. You have to be
creative to overcome the error message and retain your old data.

knuttle wrote:

There has been some changes in Thunderbird where the data and files were
modified in the new version, so if you were using something other that
the previous version you may get an error message.Â* You have to be
creative to overcome the error message and retain your old data.

It will have to be really old though. Yes all have have to do is
synchronize setting in profile.ini with profile dirname. That is why
copying both the ini file and the profile dir from the old system
insures that are synchronized.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 1/14/20 11:02 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 9:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.




That usually works but not this time.

There is now a second folder there that is apparently needed.
Okay one question, what was the version of Thunderbird from which you
are transferring the profile? If it is really old there might be a
conversion needed. Otherwise, no. The other profile is not needed.

If I followed your procedure you used you did not copy the original
profile directory, but copied the *contents* of a profile and place it
in an existing profile directory. Easy to make a mistake IMO.

What I was saying was to copy the *whole* original profile keeping its
name and as long as profiles.ini points to that directory it will work.

In fact I can prove it. NEW will be new system and OLD with be old system:

1) NEW: with Thunderbird not running rename current thunderbird profile.
We will go nuclear here and rename the whole hidden settings directory:

mv ~./.thunderbird ~./.thunderbird-disabled

2) OLD: also with Thunderbird not running copy the old .thunderbird
hidden directory to some thumbdrive or usb drive:

cp .thunderbird /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/

3) NEW: plug in transfer media and copy whole .thunderbird directory to
your home directory:

cp /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/.thunderbird ~/

4) NEW start Thunderbird and you will be using that same profile in the
same profile name as on OLD. No extra profile directories will be
created unless OLD is running some ancient version of Thunderbird.

######
NOTES: Now you really do not have to copy the WHOLE .thunderbird
directory, I was just offering a demonstration. What I do is delete any
profiles directories and delete profiles.ini file on NEW. Then just copy
from OLD the profiles.ini and associated profile WHATEVER.default to NEW

I just installed the PPA on my 16.04 laptop to upgrade from main repo's
60.x to latest 68.4.1

apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
Installed: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
Candidate: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1

And I still only have one profile, and no others...

ll .thunderbird
total 28
drwx------ 5 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20 2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x 71 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 4 17:31 ../
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 1375 Jan 29 2016 abook.mab
drwx------ 3 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 4 21:20 Crash Reports/
drwx------ 2 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20 2018 Pending Pings/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 104 Jan 29 2016 profiles.ini
drwx------ 11 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 14 11:24 ########.default/

The same profile that I have transferred years ago from my old Dell
running 14.04. And it was originally transferred from a Windows system.
All that has to match is the profiles.ini and the name of the profile
directory.





Both versions were new, 68.2.2

What I did was simply copy the profile

The situation was that there were two folders within the profile.

Once I figured out the correct folder it worked fine but the other
folder which only contained a js (or maybe json) was still required.


If I deleted it, Thunderbird would not start

philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 11:02 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 9:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the
profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.




That usually works but not this time.

There is now a second folder there that is apparently needed.
Okay one question, what was the version of Thunderbird from which you
are transferring the profile? If it is really old there might be a
conversion needed. Otherwise, no. The other profile is not needed.

If I followed your procedure you used you did not copy the original
profile directory, but copied the *contents* of a profile and place it
in an existing profile directory. Easy to make a mistake IMO.

What I was saying was to copy the *whole* original profile keeping its
name and as long as profiles.ini points to that directory it will work.

In fact I can prove it. NEW will be new system and OLD with be old
system:

1) NEW: with Thunderbird not running rename current thunderbird profile.
We will go nuclear here and rename the whole hidden settings directory:

mv ~./.thunderbird ~./.thunderbird-disabled

2) OLD: also with Thunderbird not running copy the old .thunderbird
hidden directory to some thumbdrive or usb drive:

cp .thunderbird /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/

3) NEW: plug in transfer media and copy whole .thunderbird directory to
your home directory:

cp /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/.thunderbird ~/

4) NEW start Thunderbird and you will be using that same profile in the
same profile name as on OLD. No extra profile directories will be
created unless OLD is running some ancient version of Thunderbird.

######
NOTES: Now you really do not have to copy the WHOLE .thunderbird
directory, I was just offering a demonstration. What I do is delete any
profiles directories and delete profiles.ini file on NEW. Then just copy
from OLD the profiles.ini and associated profile WHATEVER.default to NEW

I just installed the PPA on my 16.04 laptop to upgrade from main repo's
60.x to latest 68.4.1

apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
Â*Â* Installed: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
Â*Â* Candidate: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1

And I still only have one profile, and no others...

ll .thunderbird
total 28
drwx------Â* 5 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20Â* 2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x 71 jonathan jonathan 4096 JanÂ* 4 17:31 ../
-rw-rw-r--Â* 1 jonathan jonathan 1375 Jan 29Â* 2016 abook.mab
drwx------Â* 3 jonathan jonathan 4096 JanÂ* 4 21:20 Crash Reports/
drwx------Â* 2 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20Â* 2018 Pending Pings/
-rw-rw-r--Â* 1 jonathan jonathanÂ* 104 Jan 29Â* 2016 profiles.ini
drwx------ 11 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 14 11:24 ########.default/

The same profile that I have transferred years ago from my old Dell
running 14.04. And it was originally transferred from a Windows system.
All that has to match is the profiles.ini and the name of the profile
directory.





Both versions were new, 68.2.2

What I did was simply copy the profile

The situation was that there were two folders within the profile.

Once I figured out the correct folder it worked fine but the other
folder which only contained a js (or maybe json) was still required.


If I deleted it, Thunderbird would not start

I bet the issue was that you did not replace your NEW profile.ini with
the OLD profile.ini. If the NEW one listed more than one profile
directory and it was missing even if not the current one that might have
been the issue.

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

On 1/14/20 10:35 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 11:02 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/14/20 9:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
philo wrote:
On 1/13/20 9:10 PM, BobM wrote:
On 14/01/2020 02:26, philo wrote:



Just wondering what is the reason for two folders within profiles


To **** you off.





Yes.

I put my old profile in the wrong folder the first time

Well if you delete both or all folders first, then copy the entire
"WHATEVER.default" folder to the new machine, then edit the
profiles.ini
and edit profile name in INI to match your "WHATEVER.default", you will
always have the correct folder.

BTW this works across OSes. just make sure if the relative path between
INI and profile are correct. Windows default to put profiles in a
Profiles subdirectory and Linux and I assume Mac does not.




That usually works but not this time.

There is now a second folder there that is apparently needed.
Okay one question, what was the version of Thunderbird from which you
are transferring the profile? If it is really old there might be a
conversion needed. Otherwise, no. The other profile is not needed.

If I followed your procedure you used you did not copy the original
profile directory, but copied the *contents* of a profile and place it
in an existing profile directory. Easy to make a mistake IMO.

What I was saying was to copy the *whole* original profile keeping its
name and as long as profiles.ini points to that directory it will work.

In fact I can prove it. NEW will be new system and OLD with be old
system:

1) NEW: with Thunderbird not running rename current thunderbird profile.
We will go nuclear here and rename the whole hidden settings directory:

mv ~./.thunderbird ~./.thunderbird-disabled

2) OLD: also with Thunderbird not running copy the old .thunderbird
hidden directory to some thumbdrive or usb drive:

cp .thunderbird /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/

3) NEW: plug in transfer media and copy whole .thunderbird directory to
your home directory:

cp /media/philo/USBDRIVE-LABEL/.thunderbird ~/

4) NEW start Thunderbird and you will be using that same profile in the
same profile name as on OLD. No extra profile directories will be
created unless OLD is running some ancient version of Thunderbird.

######
NOTES: Now you really do not have to copy the WHOLE .thunderbird
directory, I was just offering a demonstration. What I do is delete any
profiles directories and delete profiles.ini file on NEW. Then just copy
from OLD the profiles.ini and associated profile WHATEVER.default to NEW

I just installed the PPA on my 16.04 laptop to upgrade from main repo's
60.x to latest 68.4.1

apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
Â*Â* Installed: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
Â*Â* Candidate: 1:68.4.1+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1

And I still only have one profile, and no others...

ll .thunderbird
total 28
drwx------Â* 5 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20Â* 2018 ./
drwxr-xr-x 71 jonathan jonathan 4096 JanÂ* 4 17:31 ../
-rw-rw-r--Â* 1 jonathan jonathan 1375 Jan 29Â* 2016 abook.mab
drwx------Â* 3 jonathan jonathan 4096 JanÂ* 4 21:20 Crash Reports/
drwx------Â* 2 jonathan jonathan 4096 Nov 20Â* 2018 Pending Pings/
-rw-rw-r--Â* 1 jonathan jonathanÂ* 104 Jan 29Â* 2016 profiles.ini
drwx------ 11 jonathan jonathan 4096 Jan 14 11:24 ########.default/

The same profile that I have transferred years ago from my old Dell
running 14.04. And it was originally transferred from a Windows system.
All that has to match is the profiles.ini and the name of the profile
directory.





Both versions were new, 68.2.2

What I did was simply copy the profile

The situation was that there were two folders within the profile.

Once I figured out the correct folder it worked fine but the other
folder which only contained a js (or maybe json) was still required.


If I deleted it, Thunderbird would not start

I bet the issue was that you did not replace your NEW profile.ini with
the OLD profile.ini. If the NEW one listed more than one profile
directory and it was missing even if not the current one that might have
been the issue.




I think you are right.

Anyway I'm off for a vacation soon and will not have time to fool with
it anymore...especially since it is now working