Second opinion requested! Does anyone else get a warning? (was -

In article , David_B
wrote:

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk!

imagine that.

Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

insert it and have a look. duh.

In article , David_B
wrote:

David_B wrote:
THIS thread explains that the malware I detected wasn't ORDINARY
malware, but an extra-special item.

Ramnit did NOT come on some ancient 2008 AOL disk you had.

of course not.

Agreed.

then why do you keep harping on it?

answer: to troll.

he's been told that many, many times before. he ignored it then and
will ignore it now.

Where WHERE those files hiding? The ones I asked Virus Total to scan?

there are no files hiding.

this has been explained to you many times before, yet you ignore it and
continue to troll.




An Apple computer does not NEED such an AV product. You KNOW that. Why
haven't folk like you made moves to remove it from the market place?

clearly trolling.

On 14/06/2020 15:13, nospam wrote:
In article , David_B
wrote:

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk!

imagine that.

I'm trying my best to understand, especially when endeavouring to look
at things simply like FromTheRafters explained.

If there *IS* nothing untoward - physically on the disk - how could
ClamXav find it?

How did *I* find such files and send them to Virus Total if they didn't
exist??

Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

insert it and have a look. duh.

The disk is in my Apple Superdive and an icon is showing up on my desktop.

Sadly, I do not know (cannot remember?) *HOW* to look at the files on
the disk.

Be nice for once. Please explain how to to this. TIA

--
David

In article , David_B
wrote:

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk!

imagine that.

I'm trying my best to understand, especially when endeavouring to look
at things simply like FromTheRafters explained.

you're not trying at all, not that it matters, since it's impossible
for you to understand anything.

If there *IS* nothing untoward - physically on the disk - how could
ClamXav find it?

How did *I* find such files and send them to Virus Total if they didn't
exist??

you didn't find 'such files'.

you don't even know what to look for.

Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

insert it and have a look. duh.

The disk is in my Apple Superdive and an icon is showing up on my desktop.

Sadly, I do not know (cannot remember?) *HOW* to look at the files on
the disk.

then you're too stupid to own a computer.

a bigger problem is if you don't know how to 'look at the files', how
could you possibly 'find such files and send them to virus total', as
you previously claimed, just a few lines above?

answer: you're lying (again), and not doing a very good job of it
either.

Be nice for once. Please explain how to to this. TIA

no.

David_B wrote on 6/14/2020 :
On 14/06/2020 11:24, FromTheRafters wrote:
David_B expressed precisely :
On 13/06/2020 11:08, nospam wrote:
In article , Mike Easter
wrote:

David_B wrote:
THIS thread explains that the malware I detected wasn't ORDINARY
malware, but an extra-special item.

Ramnit did NOT come on some ancient 2008 AOL disk you had.

of course not.

Agreed.

he's been told that many, many times before. he ignored it then and
will ignore it now.

Where WHERE those files hiding? The ones I asked Virus Total to scan?

It had not even been created at that time.* Ramnit was born in 2011 and
peaked in about 2015.* It wasn't distributed on any AOL disk which
preceded its existence by years and years.

You made some kind of mistake by mixing and matching things from
completely different 'generations' and inviting a false report.

he didn't make a mistake. his goal is to troll, not to find malware.
malware is just the bait to hook people.

You are wrong, yet again, 'nospam'

ClamXav told me that it had detected malware on my AOL disk.

In the same sense as it can tell you the disk is clean. That is to say a
"guess" made by the engine. Best to think of them as saying "I think I
found such and such malware" or "I think the disk has no malware because I
didn't find any".

OK - Thanks

It doesn't sound quite as trustworthy with the "I think" part there though,
and they want to exude confidence, so they leave that part out.

:-)

We all agree that it was impossible for Ramnit to be on my AOL DVD. So
where WERE the files it detected?

On the disk, they're still there, they just were being mistaken for a
Ramnit remnant(s) by that particular AV.

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk! Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

Yes, but it would not be easy for you to do.

You'll no doubt take a look at what ClamXav said about my old computer (in my
response to Apd)

I might, I skipped it before as it was a TL;DR issue.

Checked again - still too long. Was there a relevant part?

Have a great day, FTR. I hope your health problems are not too bad.

Leveling off it seems, it is a roller coaster.

On 14/06/2020 20:50, FromTheRafters wrote:
David_B wrote on 6/14/2020 :
On 14/06/2020 11:24, FromTheRafters wrote:
David_B expressed precisely :
On 13/06/2020 11:08, nospam wrote:
In article , Mike Easter
wrote:

David_B wrote:
THIS thread explains that the malware I detected wasn't ORDINARY
malware, but an extra-special item.

Ramnit did NOT come on some ancient 2008 AOL disk you had.

of course not.

Agreed.

he's been told that many, many times before. he ignored it then and
will ignore it now.

Where WHERE those files hiding? The ones I asked Virus Total to scan?

It had not even been created at that time.* Ramnit was born in
2011 and
peaked in about 2015.* It wasn't distributed on any AOL disk which
preceded its existence by years and years.

You made some kind of mistake by mixing and matching things from
completely different 'generations' and inviting a false report.

he didn't make a mistake. his goal is to troll, not to find malware.
malware is just the bait to hook people.

You are wrong, yet again, 'nospam'

ClamXav told me that it had detected malware on my AOL disk.

In the same sense as it can tell you the disk is clean. That is to
say a "guess" made by the engine. Best to think of them as saying "I
think I found such and such malware" or "I think the disk has no
malware because I didn't find any".

OK - Thanks

It doesn't sound quite as trustworthy with the "I think" part there
though, and they want to exude confidence, so they leave that part out.

:-)

We all agree that it was impossible for Ramnit to be on my AOL DVD.
So where WERE the files it detected?

On the disk, they're still there, they just were being mistaken for a
Ramnit remnant(s) by that particular AV.

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk! Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

Yes, but it would not be easy for you to do.

Have you read nospam's reply to me?

You'll no doubt take a look at what ClamXav said about my old computer
(in my response to Apd)

I might, I skipped it before as it was a TL;DR issue.

Checked again - still too long. Was there a relevant part?

Nothing in particular - except there was no mention of Ramnit files!

Have a great day, FTR. I hope your health problems are not too bad.

Leveling off it seems, it is a roller coaster.

Thank you for taking the trouble to reply to me. :-)

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 00:02:56 +0100, David_B
wrote:

Why DO folk like you, 'nospam'

We like anyone that posts the *TRUTH*. We might not agree with
some of their opinions, but discussion is what Usenet is for. Just as
long as they are not *LYING* compulsively, they are accepted.

CUT_STALKING

Remembering: Usenet was MEANT to be anonymous. Only bad guys
don't respect that.

Remind us why you're cross-posting this to Win 10 again? I
must have missed your excuse, I mean "reason".

-------------------------------------
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hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

66 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
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"David_B" wrote:
On 14/06/2020 15:13, nospam wrote:
In article , David_B wrote:
Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

insert it and have a look. duh.

The disk is in my Apple Superdive and an icon is showing up on my
desktop.

Sadly, I do not know (cannot remember?) *HOW* to look at the files on
the disk.

Use the Finder to explore it. What else would you normally use to
browse files? Perhaps search for the file names I've given in another
post.

[f'ups to acw]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 06:24:53 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

We all agree
that it was impossible for Ramnit to be on my AOL DVD. So where WERE the
files it detected?

On the disk, they're still there, they just were being mistaken for a
Ramnit remnant(s) by that particular AV.

And other AVs. You'd might be surprised at the amount of
"malware" detections you get from the likes of AVG, Avast and others.
The files are harmless, but the phone-out routines in the files are
detected by heuristics and if that particular file hash is not
whitelisted, it gets detected.
Sorry, I didn't mean "you" would be surprised. I mean someone
who had this explained to him over and over again and then "forgets"
might be surprised.
Would Avast itself be detected as malware if it wasn't
whitelisted?
1)It uploads user files and personal information
2) It intercepts secure connections
3) It has root access.
4) It makes changes to system files
What do you think?
[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:28:44 +0100, David_B
wrote:

On 14/06/2020 10:17, Apd wrote:

So where did you get it from if not the AOL disk?

I've just found this whilst looking for the items quarantined by AVG
recently (I've still not found them!)

Well, find them then. Even a noob can do that in a couple of
clicks.

vast list of personal information removed. Nothing unusual, except
maybe an obsession of downloading photos of men, and people that like
holding sticks while dancing

BD, I will never judge you by your sexual preferences(I might
make a joke or two though), but why on earth did you post that list?
It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the thread (false positives), or
AVG.

BTW, announcing serial numbers of commercial software on
public forums is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.

You REALLY should stop drinking. If you have no intent of
stopping, avoid Usenet.
HTH


-------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

66 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
[]'s

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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:36:57 +0100, David_B
wrote:

I hope your health problems are not too bad.

And that Joey's mother is healthy and that snit is still
looking as "beautiful" as usual and ....
BD this is NOT FaceKook....try to keep completely OT and
personal things OFF the technical groups.
OT up

-------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

66 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
[]'s


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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 18:16:42 +0100, David_B
wrote:

I'm trying my best to understand, especially when endeavouring to look
at things simply like FromTheRafters explained.

How did *I* find such files and send them to Virus Total if they didn't
exist??

LOL. Are you talking to yourself *AGAIN*?
I know, it's a riddle!
OK, I give up. What's the answer?

FURTHER_STALKING_SNITTED

Drink less

-------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

66 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
[]'s
--
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

David_B has brought this to us :
On 14/06/2020 20:50, FromTheRafters wrote:
David_B wrote on 6/14/2020 :
On 14/06/2020 11:24, FromTheRafters wrote:
David_B expressed precisely :
On 13/06/2020 11:08, nospam wrote:
In article , Mike Easter
wrote:

David_B wrote:
THIS thread explains that the malware I detected wasn't ORDINARY
malware, but an extra-special item.

Ramnit did NOT come on some ancient 2008 AOL disk you had.

of course not.

Agreed.

he's been told that many, many times before. he ignored it then and
will ignore it now.

Where WHERE those files hiding? The ones I asked Virus Total to scan?

It had not even been created at that time.* Ramnit was born in 2011
and
peaked in about 2015.* It wasn't distributed on any AOL disk which
preceded its existence by years and years.

You made some kind of mistake by mixing and matching things from
completely different 'generations' and inviting a false report.

he didn't make a mistake. his goal is to troll, not to find malware.
malware is just the bait to hook people.

You are wrong, yet again, 'nospam'

ClamXav told me that it had detected malware on my AOL disk.

In the same sense as it can tell you the disk is clean. That is to say a
"guess" made by the engine. Best to think of them as saying "I think I
found such and such malware" or "I think the disk has no malware because
I didn't find any".

OK - Thanks

It doesn't sound quite as trustworthy with the "I think" part there
though, and they want to exude confidence, so they leave that part out.

:-)

We all agree that it was impossible for Ramnit to be on my AOL DVD. So
where WERE the files it detected?

On the disk, they're still there, they just were being mistaken for a
Ramnit remnant(s) by that particular AV.

No other AV has found malware on the AOL disk! Is there some way I can
examine what is ACTUALLY on the disk?

Yes, but it would not be easy for you to do.

Have you read nospam's reply to me?

Probably.

You'll no doubt take a look at what ClamXav said about my old computer (in
my response to Apd)

I might, I skipped it before as it was a TL;DR issue.

Checked again - still too long. Was there a relevant part?

Nothing in particular - except there was no mention of Ramnit files!

Maybe they got whitelisted, maybe the definition was rewritten in such
a way as to exclude them - after all, they were mistakenly detected as
malware in the first place.

Shadow wrote :
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 06:24:53 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

We all agree
that it was impossible for Ramnit to be on my AOL DVD. So where WERE the
files it detected?

On the disk, they're still there, they just were being mistaken for a
Ramnit remnant(s) by that particular AV.

And other AVs. You'd might be surprised at the amount of
"malware" detections you get from the likes of AVG, Avast and others.
The files are harmless, but the phone-out routines in the files are
detected by heuristics and if that particular file hash is not
whitelisted, it gets detected.
Sorry, I didn't mean "you" would be surprised. I mean someone
who had this explained to him over and over again and then "forgets"
might be surprised.
Would Avast itself be detected as malware if it wasn't
whitelisted?
1)It uploads user files and personal information
2) It intercepts secure connections
3) It has root access.
4) It makes changes to system files
What do you think?
[]'s

I think you always take chances when you add software to a system.