Linux

On 4/2/2011 6:01 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:43:57 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

On 4/2/2011 5:31 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:16:19 -0400, Big Steel wrote:

On 4/2/2011 2:25 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Alias wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:

Really? As the tiny number of Linux users increase slightly, so does the
number of Linux viruses. Yet isn't Linux supposed to be safer today? And
to get the idea of how Linux can be infected, here is a good read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mputer_viruses

Yawn.

Indeed. A handful of "issues" compared to "Typhoid Microsoft".

Laughable in the extreme.

I work at place that's pretty strict. Both Linux and Windows are required
to run a McAfee "Host based security system". However, Linux is exempt from
the "anti-virus" requirement.

"BillW50"'s silly link shows why; he's not a very sharp tool, is he?


Oh, we have a chime-in from Ahlstrom the hypocrite that makes his living
using MS solutions and he is talking smack as usual. He doesn't use
Linux at all to make his living.

Laughable.....

Ahlstrom is a boob.
The worst form of Linux advocate because he is just so petty and
unbelievable.

He just hasn't been the same since his master Roy left.

I think he needs to level set and start over again.
Maybe God will grant him a new life.

Anything has to be better than what he is living now.



It's just like when I got tired of Big Blue and decided to make my
conversion over the PC(s) and client/server using MS. I was able to do
it and didn't take a pay cut either. If he hates MS so much, why can't
he convert over to Linux and make a living from Linux?

Because he is a spineless, gormless wonder.
He is at a job he has probably had for 20 or more years, is comfortable
and doesn't want to rock the boat.

I was on Big Blue from 1971 to around 1996. However, I did some
contracts on the IBM Personal System 2, Integrated Business Computer
client/server, Apple and Novell server/MS workstation client/server
before I made my way completely off the mainframe.

The only excuse that he can possibly have for not going over to Linux is
that he doesn't ware the pants in his family like you say.

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 4/02/11, Alias posted:
On 04/02/2011 12:09 PM, BillW50 wrote:
I have at least a dozen computers right in this
room alone.

Why do you have so many?

His heating furnace is out of order.

Nope, many reasons except heat. And most of them only draw 25 watts
anyway. This one is currently drawing 14.2 watts (yes I have a watt
meter connected). Most of the time only one is running. Two running at
the same time happens every once in a while. ;-)

1) Beta testing (the more the better)

2) Many different OS (dualbooting is obsolete here)

3) Backups (never have to worry about a computer failure)

4) Some are the same except have different CPUs installed (great for
performance and beta checking)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

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nval¡d says...

On 04/02/2011 12:09 PM, BillW50 wrote:
I have at least a dozen computers right in this
room alone.

Why do you have so many?

It's amazing how Alias, a self-professed computer support type person,
doesn't have any idea what someone would have a dozen computers in their
home/office.... Sheesh, I wish I only had a dozen, my electric bill
would be a lot cheaper.

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You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
(remove 999 for proper email address)

On 4/2/2011 6:23 PM, Leythos wrote:
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nval¡d says...

On 04/02/2011 12:09 PM, BillW50 wrote:
I have at least a dozen computers right in this
room alone.

Why do you have so many?

It's amazing how Alias, a self-professed computer support type person,
doesn't have any idea what someone would have a dozen computers in their
home/office.... Sheesh, I wish I only had a dozen, my electric bill
would be a lot cheaper.


I use to have a collection myself. I have some computers in storage I am
going to give away. I am just down to a laptop, desktop and my Driod now.

Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

On 04/03/2011 12:46 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)


This from someone who thinks Outhouse Distress is a good program.

--
Alias

On 4/2/2011 6:52 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:47:01 +0200, Alias wrote:

On 04/03/2011 12:46 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)


This from someone who thinks Outhouse Distress is a good program.

Attack the messenger when all else fails.
Looks like you failed, "Alias".


Alias has always been dead wood. It thinks it is somebody in the Windows
forums. They hate its guts.

Alias wrote:
On 04/03/2011 12:46 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)


This from someone who thinks Outhouse Distress is a good program.

Far better than this piece of crap I am using right now under Linux. ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:02 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 17:08, BillW50 wrote:


Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things
didn't work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff.

Gosh - that's over TWO YEARS OLD.....

Gee Gordon... you are really sharp today. Yes this happened about two
years ago. I hear tell that Ubuntu continues to do this practice. Say
since I already had to restore my system three times already from
Ubuntu. How about you try it this time with the latest version? ;-)


How about you try it without nuking your swap file and then STFU.

Still too much of a coward to answer why is Linux messing around in the
Windows partition in the first place, eh? What Ubuntu did can easily
qualify as a Windows virus. Gee, doesn't that just make you proud? ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 06:08 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:35, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 4:28 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 16:20, Boscoe wrote:



He's a Linux troll

Oh yeah? I'm also a Community Contributor on the MS Answers forums
if you had the skills and intelligence to post there...

Gosh!! He has trouble doing up his shoe laces.

And here's a Linux kernel exploit with hundreds more if you care to
look.http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154707

sigh That's a vulnerability in Ubuntu 6.06 - that version is FIVE
YEARS OLD - I shouldn't think ANYONE is using it now. Can't you come
up with anything more recent? Like to list the vulnerabilities in XP?
That's the same age...

Odd, some would call Ubuntu a virus. As Linux fanatics convinced me to
run Ubuntu Live. And they said don't worry, it won't harm your Windows
install. As Linux won't touch it. As it runs totally in RAM and won't
even look at the drive.

Ok sounds good to me and I ran Ubuntu Live v8.xx and some things didn't
work like the WiFi, webcam, and stuff. Ok that was fun. So I rebooted to
Windows and it won't let me into the desktop. A window displayed said
Windows Installer and nothing would work. Odd since I just ran Ubuntu
Live, wouldn't you say?

Restored Windows from a backup and it was running just fine. Say you
don't think Linux users lied to me do you? Naw... Linux users never lie
right? Well just in case, I ran Ubuntu Live again. Rebooted to Windows
and lo and behold, Windows is screwed up again. But it can't be Linux
right?

Since it can't be Linux, I did it a third time. And as sure as the sun
rises, it did it again. So every time I ran Ubuntu Live, it toasted my
Windows install. And it turns out that Ubuntu Live actually does write
to the Windows partition. And it looks for the Windows pagefile to use
for itself. And if it doesn't find one (I didn't have one), Ubuntu gets
mad and toasts your Windows install.

I don't know Gordon? I believe some would classify that as a Windows
virus. After all, it does fit under the definition of one anyway. ;-)

Bitch, bitch, bitch.

Why do you complain all of the time?

Yes I know how you hate the story of how Linux toasted Windows. But no
reason to complain about it, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 05:20 PM, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 3:58 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 12:38, Big Steel wrote:

You can keep that little pipe dream going about how Linux as an
architecture to prevent malware. I no more belive than I believe you.

Pipedream eh? So that's why well over 50% of the world's web servers
are Linux and yet, strange to seem, they don't get infected - the
Windows ones DO?

Really? Then who are buying all of those Linux antivirus software then?

Viruses and Worms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mputer_viruses
Malwa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
Viruses: http://vx.netlux.org/ (http://vx.netlux.org/vl.php)


He's a Linux troll and, as all of his playmates on here don't bother any
more, he's found someone else to play with. YOU!!

He's known for spreading FUD about Windows on here and doesn't know what
he's talking about....

Liar.

Actually you are the liar. Just like I said before, the pot calling the
kettle black. Someday you will look in the mirror and shock yourself. ;-)

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154765/187/

So, leave him alone and let him play with himself, again.

Gosh, a rip off web site that tries to scare Linux users into buying
their anti malware software. Not very convincing, sport.

Anything to do with Linux is a ripoff. Even the old outdated Commodore
64 has more popularity than Linux does. Pretty sad, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

On 4/02/11, BillW50 posted:
Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 4/02/11, Alias posted:
On 04/02/2011 12:09 PM, BillW50 wrote:
I have at least a dozen computers right in this
room alone.

Why do you have so many?

His heating furnace is out of order.

Nope, many reasons except heat. And most of them only draw 25 watts anyway.
This one is currently drawing 14.2 watts (yes I have a watt meter connected).
Most of the time only one is running. Two running at the same time happens
every once in a while. ;-)

1) Beta testing (the more the better)

2) Many different OS (dualbooting is obsolete here)

3) Backups (never have to worry about a computer failure)

4) Some are the same except have different CPUs installed (great for
performance and beta checking)

My comment was meant as a bit of humor - a joke, as it were.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 04/03/2011 01:00 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/03/2011 12:46 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)


This from someone who thinks Outhouse Distress is a good program.

Far better than this piece of crap I am using right now under Linux. ;-)


Try putting more than a gig in your OE Inbox, fool. OE was made for last
century's email. The outdated T-Bird can handle the load. OE can't and
never ****ing will.

--
Alias

On 04/03/2011 12:52 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:47:01 +0200, Alias wrote:

On 04/03/2011 12:46 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 07:03 PM, BillW50 wrote:
And if you didn't like EWF or something, there are also lots of other
things like sandboxes and the like.

Yeah, like Linux.

No not like Linux. As Linux is weak in the knees and just doesn't have
the support that Windows has. Hell the Mac even has like 10 times more
support than Linux does. And Windows has like 10 times more support than
the Mac.

It is funny watching Linux fanatics brag. They think running a widely
unsupported and ignored OS is such a great thing. ;-)


This from someone who thinks Outhouse Distress is a good program.

Attack the messenger when all else fails.
Looks like you failed, "Alias".


You wish.

--
Alias

On 04/03/2011 01:43 AM, BillW50 wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 04/02/2011 05:20 PM, Boscoe wrote:
On 02/04/2011 3:58 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gordon wrote:
On 02/04/2011 12:38, Big Steel wrote:

You can keep that little pipe dream going about how Linux as an
architecture to prevent malware. I no more belive than I believe you.

Pipedream eh? So that's why well over 50% of the world's web servers
are Linux and yet, strange to seem, they don't get infected - the
Windows ones DO?

Really? Then who are buying all of those Linux antivirus software then?

Viruses and Worms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mputer_viruses
Malwa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
Viruses: http://vx.netlux.org/ (http://vx.netlux.org/vl.php)


He's a Linux troll and, as all of his playmates on here don't bother any
more, he's found someone else to play with. YOU!!

He's known for spreading FUD about Windows on here and doesn't know what
he's talking about....

Liar.

Actually you are the liar. Just like I said before, the pot calling the
kettle black. Someday you will look in the mirror and shock yourself. ;-)

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/154765/187/

So, leave him alone and let him play with himself, again.

Gosh, a rip off web site that tries to scare Linux users into buying
their anti malware software. Not very convincing, sport.

Anything to do with Linux is a ripoff. Even the old outdated Commodore
64 has more popularity than Linux does. Pretty sad, eh?


Gosh, I wonder why I see books about Ubuntu/Linux in all the bookstores
round town and why do I see all the computer chains here displaying
computers with Ubuntu/Linux running them? Oh, it's not the USA, that's
why. With Windows and Apple you can count the activations and units
sold. You can't count the times a person shares or copies a CD/DVD, dumb
****. Millions use Linux.

Oh, and popularity doesn't necessarily mean quality. Bush proved that in
spades. So did cigarettes. So did AOL. Microsoft's strength isn't in its
ability to make a good product but its ability to sell a bad product to
a lot of clueless computer users.

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Alias