Defrag Bootup Files

Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

On 12/29/2016 01:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Defraggler will do this. You have to ask it though.
It is easy.

XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

First, obtain a gross estimate of how fragmented the volume is.

If a defragmenter says these volumes are only 2% fragmented,
then you should start looking at startup items or things you've
added.

If a startup goes from 30 seconds to taking 5 minutes,
that's not fragmentation.

*******

Even Sysinternals Process Monitor can log activity during
boot. It's one of the simplest tools I know of. There are
other tools for doing the job as well.

Example of a pro debugging a slow start. He had a file share
that was missing and holding up the boot process.

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...y-slow-logons/

Paul

On 12/29/2016 04:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA
I've always used MyDefrag. It's no longer developed but it works great.
Moved to an archive site. The developer closed his website.
http://web.archive.org/web/201508110...com/index.html

It breaks the system into 6 sections and one of them is the boot files.
Another is the folder list.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:47:50 -0500, Paul wrote:

First, obtain a gross estimate of how fragmented the volume is.

If a defragmenter says these volumes are only 2% fragmented,
then you should start looking at startup items or things you've
added.

If a startup goes from 30 seconds to taking 5 minutes,
that's not fragmentation.

*******

Even Sysinternals Process Monitor can log activity during
boot. It's one of the simplest tools I know of. There are
other tools for doing the job as well.

Example of a pro debugging a slow start. He had a file share
that was missing and holding up the boot process.

I got a used computer on ebay with a FRESH install of XP Pro SP3.
The seller also installed on of them free "Office Suites" and a free
Anti-Virus program, (I dont recall which one), and Chrome browser.
That's all that was on the drive. That thing took literally 4 to 5
minutes to boot. I swear that was the slowest booting computer in
history.

I know it was not the office suite, or Chrome causing the problem, and
neither of them were running upon bootup. I wiped the drive, installed
XP Pro Sp3, and that same computer booted in less than one minute.

Its obvious the problem was the anti-virus bull****....

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XPUSER says...

Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

I like Puran Defrag. It has a boot-time defrag for MFT n' other stuff,
swap file etc...

http://www.puransoftware.com/

I run it maybe once a year.

--
Duncan.

On 29 Dec 2016, XPUSER wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during
bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being
beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is
probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to
get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less
violent booting up.

Fragmentation is about the last possible reason your disk is thrashing.
You're barking up the wrong tree.

Please stop nymshifting.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:24:17 -0500, Big Al wrote:

On 12/29/2016 04:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA
I've always used MyDefrag. It's no longer developed but it works great.
Moved to an archive site. The developer closed his website.
http://web.archive.org/web/201508110...com/index.html

It breaks the system into 6 sections and one of them is the boot files.
Another is the folder list.

+1
And it leaves a gap between the sections so they can be used
by temporary files.
Note you have to allow "Prefetch" so it can decide what you
use most, and keep those files at the fastest part of the HD.
If you don't know if you have Prefetch, type "prefetch" in the
"run" command box. It should give you a list of the most recently used
executables.
[]'s
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:31:57 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:47:50 -0500, Paul wrote:

First, obtain a gross estimate of how fragmented the volume is.

If a defragmenter says these volumes are only 2% fragmented,
then you should start looking at startup items or things you've
added.

If a startup goes from 30 seconds to taking 5 minutes,
that's not fragmentation.

*******

Even Sysinternals Process Monitor can log activity during
boot. It's one of the simplest tools I know of. There are
other tools for doing the job as well.

Example of a pro debugging a slow start. He had a file share
that was missing and holding up the boot process.

I got a used computer on ebay with a FRESH install of XP Pro SP3.
The seller also installed on of them free "Office Suites" and a free
Anti-Virus program, (I dont recall which one), and Chrome browser.
That's all that was on the drive. That thing took literally 4 to 5
minutes to boot. I swear that was the slowest booting computer in
history.

I know it was not the office suite, or Chrome causing the problem, and
neither of them were running upon bootup.

Alas, they BOTH were, if the moron used default install.

I wiped the drive, installed
XP Pro Sp3, and that same computer booted in less than one minute.

Mine boots in about 10-15 seconds(and loads a firewall, a
proxy and some other stuff). I don't think you mentioned
processor/RAM.

Its obvious the problem was the anti-virus bull****....

Yes, that too.
[]'s

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On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that?

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that?

The Defrag in Win98 was a lot better.... I liked to watch it too. The
one in XP is boring.... And it always leaves gaps. I dont want gaps....

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:09:12 -0800, XPUSER wrote:

Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Replying to the XP side of the discussion. And old IDE HD can
indeed cause a slow startup (Mydefrag - run the "System Disk Weekly"
script), but it's a good idea to look at what services and startups
you are running.
CodeStuff Starter is a great program for examining them. Have
a look at Black Viper's web site about what services are safe to
disable.
Do you really want Google, Adobe, Microsoft, Oracle and
others sending your data at startup to "check if there is an
appropriate update" ? Probably not.
Do you want to pre-load your Office Software "so it's faster
when you eventually use it" ? No ....
Do you really want Remote Desktop activated, do you use
Scheduler, do you want M$ checking if all your private videos are DRM
compatible ?
Disable the non-essential.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mydefrag

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S.../Starter.shtml

Black Viper is down, ATM, but there is a table he

http://www.majorgeeks.com/content/pa...iguration.html

Which might help.
[]'s
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Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that?

It defrags, but does not optimize, which is why there are so
many third party defraggers out there.

http://web.archive.org/web/201406291...fragger .html
[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:23:05 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death.
It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is
hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop.
If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up.

Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC.

TIA

Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that?

The Defrag in Win98 was a lot better.... I liked to watch it too. The
one in XP is boring.... And it always leaves gaps. I dont want gaps....

Yes, you do. Otherwise the apps have to write their temp files
to the slower parts of the HD. Which slows things down. Having gaps in
the faster regions speeds them up.

But if you actually like watching a defrag, get Ultra Defrag.

http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/e....html?download

You can configure it to leave no gaps. Whatever floats your
boat.
[]'s

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Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:31:57 -0600, wrote:

I got a used computer on ebay with a FRESH install of XP Pro SP3.
The seller also installed on of them free "Office Suites" and a free
Anti-Virus program, (I dont recall which one), and Chrome browser.
That's all that was on the drive. That thing took literally 4 to 5
minutes to boot. I swear that was the slowest booting computer in
history.

I know it was not the office suite, or Chrome causing the problem, and
neither of them were running upon bootup. I wiped the drive, installed
XP Pro Sp3, and that same computer booted in less than one minute.

Its obvious the problem was the anti-virus bull****....

It's also obvious that you never know what else the previous owner
installed before handing the system over to you. No matter what he/she
claims to have done, I would always recommend reformatting and starting
fresh.

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Char Jackson