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Old August 10th 05, 03:06 PM
Ken Varn
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Default Move XP SP2 hard drive to another hardware platform

I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?

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Diebold Inc.

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Old August 10th 05, 03:17 PM
hddsite
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Try with sysprep (System Preparation Tool)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838080/EN-US/

Install the HD in the old PC, boot WinXP, run sysprep and then install
the disk in the new PC... It could work

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Old August 10th 05, 03:26 PM
jerryrock
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The old hard drive will not boot in the new motherboard because the drive
contains system settings from your old motherboard/BIOS. Files and settings
transfer wizard could have helped if the disk was stll in your old system. (I
know too little too late!)
My suggestion (If you must access files from the old hard drive) is to
install Windows on a new hard drive and use your old drive as a secondary
drive. Other than that it looks like it's time to re-format and re-install.

"Ken Varn" wrote:

I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------



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Old August 10th 05, 03:56 PM
Ken Varn
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No can do. The old PC is dead.

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"hddsite" wrote in message
oups.com...
Try with sysprep (System Preparation Tool)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/838080/EN-US/

Install the HD in the old PC, boot WinXP, run sysprep and then install
the disk in the new PC... It could work



  #5  
Old August 10th 05, 04:00 PM
Ken Varn
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I was hoping for something a little less painless than that!

The old motherboard is dead. So I can't run File and Settings transfer
wizard on it.

I always assumed that Safe Mode would not load drivers for the old
motherboard and just start up with minimal drivers to run XP.

Right now I am looking into maybe putting together a slipstream bootable
version of XP SP2 and using it to do the repair instead.


--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------
"jerryrock" wrote in message
...
The old hard drive will not boot in the new motherboard because the drive
contains system settings from your old motherboard/BIOS. Files and

settings
transfer wizard could have helped if the disk was stll in your old system.

(I
know too little too late!)
My suggestion (If you must access files from the old hard drive) is to
install Windows on a new hard drive and use your old drive as a secondary
drive. Other than that it looks like it's time to re-format and

re-install.

"Ken Varn" wrote:

I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I

have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was

hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new

motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue

screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to

do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on

the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------





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Old August 10th 05, 06:06 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Perform a Repair Installation so Windows XP can detect the new hardwa
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/repaxp.htm

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"Ken Varn" nospam wrote in message
...
I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new
motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue
screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to do
a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------




  #7  
Old August 10th 05, 08:12 PM
Ken Varn
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I tried to do a repair installation, but the original XP boot CD cannot
locate some files that I think pertain to SP2.

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Perform a Repair Installation so Windows XP can detect the new hardwa
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/repaxp.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Ken Varn" nospam wrote in message
...
I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I

have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was

hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new
motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue
screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to

do
a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on

the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------






  #8  
Old August 10th 05, 09:09 PM
TOF
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Ken Varn wrote:
I was hoping for something a little less painless than that!

The old motherboard is dead. So I can't run File and Settings transfer
wizard on it.

I always assumed that Safe Mode would not load drivers for the old
motherboard and just start up with minimal drivers to run XP.

Right now I am looking into maybe putting together a slipstream bootable
version of XP SP2 and using it to do the repair instead.



Ken that most likely is the surest, and probably only, way to do what
you're wanting to do, at least in my experience while trying to do the
same thing.

Good luck!
  #9  
Old August 10th 05, 10:13 PM
Ron Martell
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"Ken Varn" nospam wrote:

I tried to do a repair installation, but the original XP boot CD cannot
locate some files that I think pertain to SP2.


Make up a new installation CD with SP2 slipstreamed into it. You need
to have a CDRW drive in order to do this.

XP Slipstream:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/Windo...p2-bootcd.html
http://www.msfn.org/articles.php?act...showarticle=49

Also you can use Nlite (free) from http://www.nliteos.com/


Good luck

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  #10  
Old August 10th 05, 10:56 PM
D.Currie
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A slipstreamed CD is what you need, and it will come in handy later. The
repair install should keep all your files and settings.

The problem isn't just general drivers, it's things like the IDE controller
which is pretty basic and will be needed even in safe mode.

If you know someone who has a windows XP install CD that's the same version
as yours (home/pro/retail/upgrade/etc.) you can use that CD with your key
and you don't need to bother making the slipstream CD.

"Ken Varn" nospam wrote in message
...
I was hoping for something a little less painless than that!

The old motherboard is dead. So I can't run File and Settings transfer
wizard on it.

I always assumed that Safe Mode would not load drivers for the old
motherboard and just start up with minimal drivers to run XP.

Right now I am looking into maybe putting together a slipstream bootable
version of XP SP2 and using it to do the repair instead.


--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------
"jerryrock" wrote in message
...
The old hard drive will not boot in the new motherboard because the drive
contains system settings from your old motherboard/BIOS. Files and

settings
transfer wizard could have helped if the disk was stll in your old
system.

(I
know too little too late!)
My suggestion (If you must access files from the old hard drive) is to
install Windows on a new hard drive and use your old drive as a secondary
drive. Other than that it looks like it's time to re-format and

re-install.

"Ken Varn" wrote:

I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I

have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was

hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new

motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue

screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to

do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on

the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of
my
settings?

--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------







  #11  
Old August 11th 05, 02:57 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Ken Varn wrote:
I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?



Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations are
BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore not transferable to a
new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new
motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



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  #12  
Old August 11th 05, 01:34 PM
Ken Varn
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I decided to go ahead and proceed with the repair last night. I created a
backup image of my hard drive using Ghost before proceeding.

There were a few minor issues that I ran into though, and am hoping some
light can be shed on these.

I booted with the XP install CD and proceeded to do the install. After the
install rebooted and completed the device installation process, it then went
on to the "installing files" step. At this point, I started receiving
prompts that the installation could not find files on the CD. They were in
fact there.

I decided to load the original backup image back onto the hard drive and
repeat the process using a slipstream CD with SP2 on it. The same problem
happened, but this time I decided to cancel the install when I was prompted.
The install then continued to complete without copying the files. The
system came back up and sat on the Please wait... section of the XP logo
screen. It sat there for almost 20 minutes so I decided to reboot the box.
After doing that, the system came up and life seemed good. However, all of
my start-programs for the All Users were removed. No problem I thought, I
will restore them from the backup. I did that, but I hadn't realized the
install had changed the profiles directory from C:\Documents and
Settings\All Users to C:\Windows\Profiles\All Users. I don't understand why
it did this. Is there anyway to change this back to the original location?

Anyhow, just for safety sake, I decided to re-install XP SP2 from the
install CD and now the system seems to be running ok. I then installed the
motherboard drivers.

Seems like this process is not as cut and dry as I thought it would be. I
guess the only issue that I am aware of at this point is changing the
location of the profiles directory back to the original directory.

Are there any other issues that I should look out for that I may have not
found yet?



--
-----------------------------------
Ken Varn
Senior Software Engineer
Diebold Inc.

EmailID = varnk
Domain = Diebold.com
-----------------------------------
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Ken Varn wrote:
I have a Hard Drive that contains a working Windows XP SP2 system. I

have
taken this hard drive and installed it on a new motherboard. I was

hoping
that I could boot Windows XP in safe mode and then load the new

motherboard
drivers and life would be great. Unfortunately, XP throws up a blue

screen
when I try to run in safe mode on the new motherboard. So, I tried to

do a
repair with my original XP installation CD, but because I have SP2 on

the
box, the installation process cannot find some files on the original XP
install CD when it tries to do the repair.

Basically, is there some way that I can get this hard drive onto my new
motherboard in the least painless way possible without loosing all of my
settings?



Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations are
BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore not transferable to a
new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new
motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



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