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  #16  
Old November 15th 09, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
umwhat[_5_]
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Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"

It seems the Microsoft "Notify me of replies" is not working.
Ok, I understand. It is not enough for me to write a note on my
website..... "The photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" -
ie: to use Copyrighted Material for educational and or non profit use." until
the owners consent to my use of their material.
I have sent an email to the webmaster where I snatched the photos and
pictures but have had no reply from them. I sent the email about 3 weeks ago.
I will remove all the snatched pictures and photos today and wait for
responses.
I was cheeky enough to say in my email, "I may have thought that Christian
material and especially shared Christian material amongst Christians for non
profit purposes may be legal" and ried to suggest with my bad english it
owuld be a good thing for Christians to do anyway.....but I did suggest in
the email that was only a personal thought.
Thank you all.


--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

umwhat wrote:
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos and the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me to use
the copied photos legally?




No, not even close. You need the copyright owner's express permission
to use his/her intellectual property for any such advertising purposes.
"Fair Use" is a very narrowly defined legal term, and you're no where
close to meeting any of the criteria.

Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.

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  #17  
Old November 15th 09, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
umwhat[_5_]
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Posts: 63
Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"


It seems the Microsoft "Notify me of replies" is not working.
Ok, I understand. It is not enough for me to write a note on my
website..... "The photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" -
ie: to use Copyrighted Material for educational and or non profit use." until
the owners consent to my use of their material.
I have sent an email to the webmaster where I snatched the photos and
pictures but have had no reply from them. I sent the email about 3 weeks ago.
I will remove all the snatched pictures and photos today and wait for
responses.
I was cheeky enough to say in my email, "I may have thought that Christian
material and especially shared Christian material amongst Christians for non
profit purposes may be legal" and ried to suggest with my bad english it
owuld be a good thing for Christians to do anyway.....but I did suggest in
the email that was only a personal thought.
Thank you all.


--
....scribble scribble scribble...


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

umwhat wrote:
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos and the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me to use
the copied photos legally?




No, not even close. You need the copyright owner's express permission
to use his/her intellectual property for any such advertising purposes.
"Fair Use" is a very narrowly defined legal term, and you're no where
close to meeting any of the criteria.

Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.

  #18  
Old November 16th 09, 10:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Olórin[_2_]
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Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"



"umwhat" wrote in message
...
It seems the Microsoft "Notify me of replies" is not working.
Ok, I understand. It is not enough for me to write a note on my
website..... "The photos used on this website are used through "Fair
Use" -
ie: to use Copyrighted Material for educational and or non profit use."
until
the owners consent to my use of their material.
I have sent an email to the webmaster where I snatched the photos and
pictures but have had no reply from them. I sent the email about 3 weeks
ago.
I will remove all the snatched pictures and photos today and wait for
responses.


Well, I was going to say good on you for trying to do the right thing, but
why on earth have you left it three weeks before thinking about taking the
pictures down?

What will you do if you haven't heard back in another three weeks? Three
months?

Perhaps look for other contact details on the website to try.

I was cheeky enough to say in my email, "I may have thought that Christian
material and especially shared Christian material amongst Christians for
non
profit purposes may be legal"


a) It would be jolly nice, yes, but that's up to the holder of the
copyright. As VanguardLH said, it's not about profit or not, it's about
ownership.

b) What is this "shared Christian material" status?

c) You said they were "photos taken of the discovery of the Noah's Ark" -
not specifically Christian, then... Oy vey, as has already been said :-).


and ried to suggest with my bad english it
owuld be a good thing for Christians to do anyway.....but I did suggest in
the email that was only a personal thought.
Thank you all.


--
...scribble scribble scribble...


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

umwhat wrote:
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to
copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the
first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos
and the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a
low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use
Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me
to use
the copied photos legally?




No, not even close. You need the copyright owner's express permission
to use his/her intellectual property for any such advertising purposes.
"Fair Use" is a very narrowly defined legal term, and you're no where
close to meeting any of the criteria.

Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.



  #19  
Old November 16th 09, 10:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Olorin
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Posts: 323
Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"




"umwhat" wrote in message
...
It seems the Microsoft "Notify me of replies" is not working.
Ok, I understand. It is not enough for me to write a note on my
website..... "The photos used on this website are used through "Fair
Use" -
ie: to use Copyrighted Material for educational and or non profit use."
until
the owners consent to my use of their material.
I have sent an email to the webmaster where I snatched the photos and
pictures but have had no reply from them. I sent the email about 3 weeks
ago.
I will remove all the snatched pictures and photos today and wait for
responses.


Well, I was going to say good on you for trying to do the right thing, but
why on earth have you left it three weeks before thinking about taking the
pictures down?

What will you do if you haven't heard back in another three weeks? Three
months?

Perhaps look for other contact details on the website to try.

I was cheeky enough to say in my email, "I may have thought that Christian
material and especially shared Christian material amongst Christians for
non
profit purposes may be legal"


a) It would be jolly nice, yes, but that's up to the holder of the
copyright. As VanguardLH said, it's not about profit or not, it's about
ownership.

b) What is this "shared Christian material" status?

c) You said they were "photos taken of the discovery of the Noah's Ark" -
not specifically Christian, then... Oy vey, as has already been said :-).


and ried to suggest with my bad english it
owuld be a good thing for Christians to do anyway.....but I did suggest in
the email that was only a personal thought.
Thank you all.


--
...scribble scribble scribble...


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

umwhat wrote:
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to
copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the
first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos
and the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a
low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use
Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me
to use
the copied photos legally?




No, not even close. You need the copyright owner's express permission
to use his/her intellectual property for any such advertising purposes.
"Fair Use" is a very narrowly defined legal term, and you're no where
close to meeting any of the criteria.

Stanford Copyright & Fair Use Center
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
.



  #20  
Old November 18th 09, 05:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Mike
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Posts: 16
Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"

"umwhat" wrote in message
...
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to
copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos and
the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a
low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use
Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me to
use
the copied photos legally?


--
...scribble scribble scribble...


Certainly NOT, you need to get written permission for each photo to use it
on your website.
If I was the copyright holder I would say 'no'.
Mike.


  #21  
Old November 18th 09, 05:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Mike
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Posts: 16
Default Copyrights, photos from other websites, "Fair Use"

"umwhat" wrote in message
...
THis is the response I got from someone from whose web site I wanted to
copy
photos and use them on my web site. My single page website has the first 2
sections used for non profit Christian information and copied photos and
the
bottom 1/3 of the web page I put inforamation about contact regarding a
low
price computer cleaning and service home based business.

When I want to use a photo from someone else web site and stating "The
photos used on this website are used through "Fair Use" - to use
Copyrighted
Material for educational and/or on-profit use." Is this enough for me to
use
the copied photos legally?


--
...scribble scribble scribble...


Certainly NOT, you need to get written permission for each photo to use it
on your website.
If I was the copyright holder I would say 'no'.
Mike.


 




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