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01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа:
I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Gunjani Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Gunjani Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? |
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote:
01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. Stef |
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"Stefan Patric" wrote in message
... On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote: 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. It's not even necessary to have many things running to see this happen. One application that uses progressively more of the page file will cause Windows to have to enlarge it, bringing up the message. Just one example is Opera browser, which, if kept open for a long period, even with few or no tabs open, will continue to use more and more of the page file, till it has to be resized by Windows. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:48:31 -0400, glee wrote:
"Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote: 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. It's not even necessary to have many things running to see this happen. One application that uses progressively more of the page file will cause Windows to have to enlarge it, bringing up the message. Just one example is Opera browser, which, if kept open for a long period, even with few or no tabs open, will continue to use more and more of the page file, till it has to be resized by Windows. I've never experienced this. Although, when I had systems with marginally sufficient (or insufficient) RAM, I always manually increased virtual memory from the system set default size. Also, I just noticed the date of the original query I replied to: 2003. Either the OP's clock is badly off, or the message is 9 years old. I'm sure the OP has solved the problem by now, if the latter. ;-) Stef |
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"Stefan Patric" wrote in message
... On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:48:31 -0400, glee wrote: "Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote: 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. It's not even necessary to have many things running to see this happen. One application that uses progressively more of the page file will cause Windows to have to enlarge it, bringing up the message. Just one example is Opera browser, which, if kept open for a long period, even with few or no tabs open, will continue to use more and more of the page file, till it has to be resized by Windows. I've never experienced this. Although, when I had systems with marginally sufficient (or insufficient) RAM, I always manually increased virtual memory from the system set default size. Also, I just noticed the date of the original query I replied to: 2003. Either the OP's clock is badly off, or the message is 9 years old. I'm sure the OP has solved the problem by now, if the latter. ;-) I'm talking about systems with sufficient RAM, almost no background programs, and the virtual memory set to a large starting size and a max of nearly the entire partition size. For example, an XP 32-bit system by itself with 1 GB of memory is sufficient. I think you have just not run across the programs that sometimes do this. It has been reported over the years in both Opera and Firefox forums. I saw the 2003 date on the OP which is why I just replied to you, and not the original. :-) -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:19:32 -0400, glee wrote:
"Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:48:31 -0400, glee wrote: "Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote: 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. It's not even necessary to have many things running to see this happen. One application that uses progressively more of the page file will cause Windows to have to enlarge it, bringing up the message. Just one example is Opera browser, which, if kept open for a long period, even with few or no tabs open, will continue to use more and more of the page file, till it has to be resized by Windows. I've never experienced this. Although, when I had systems with marginally sufficient (or insufficient) RAM, I always manually increased virtual memory from the system set default size. I'm talking about systems with sufficient RAM, almost no background programs, and the virtual memory set to a large starting size and a max of nearly the entire partition size. For example, an XP 32-bit system by itself with 1 GB of memory is sufficient. I think you have just not run across the programs that sometimes do this. It has been reported over the years in both Opera and Firefox forums. Well, I use Photoshop professionally on a 32-bit XP system with 1.5GB RAM. Yes, it goes into VM, of which there's 3GB, all the time, but I've never max'd it out. And I routinely batch process dozens to hundreds of RAW and/or JPEG images. However, I've configured it to be more RAM efficient as I do with all my apps. I used Firefox for years on Windows (and Linux)--now use Chrome--and, as I've said, never experienced this problem. Perhaps, it's just the way I set up my systems--lean and minimal--manage my applications, and use the system compared to others. I can only think that this VM problem, since you say it's been on-going for years with Opera and Firefox, is due to RAM caching. I turn that off, if I can. In fact, if I can, I turn off ALL browser caching. With today's high speed Internet service, such caching (RAM or disk) is of little value. When all there was was dial-up, things were different. Stef |
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"Stefan Patric" wrote in message
... On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:19:32 -0400, glee wrote: "Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:48:31 -0400, glee wrote: "Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:17:39 -0700, lachevnyko wrote: 01 март 2003, събота, 18:57:02 UTC+2, Gunjani написа: I tregularly receive the following message 'Windows - Low on Virtual Memory..... increase page file...' yet I dont't have many programs running. Any suggestions. My pc has 512Mb Ram. -- Many Thanks Increase the amount of virtual memory, or what would be better is add more real RAM, 512MB more, at least, 1GB would be better. Also, if you're running out of virtual memory, you have more things running than you realize. It's not even necessary to have many things running to see this happen. One application that uses progressively more of the page file will cause Windows to have to enlarge it, bringing up the message. Just one example is Opera browser, which, if kept open for a long period, even with few or no tabs open, will continue to use more and more of the page file, till it has to be resized by Windows. I've never experienced this. Although, when I had systems with marginally sufficient (or insufficient) RAM, I always manually increased virtual memory from the system set default size. I'm talking about systems with sufficient RAM, almost no background programs, and the virtual memory set to a large starting size and a max of nearly the entire partition size. For example, an XP 32-bit system by itself with 1 GB of memory is sufficient. I think you have just not run across the programs that sometimes do this. It has been reported over the years in both Opera and Firefox forums. Well, I use Photoshop professionally on a 32-bit XP system with 1.5GB RAM. Yes, it goes into VM, of which there's 3GB, all the time, but I've never max'd it out. And I routinely batch process dozens to hundreds of RAW and/or JPEG images. However, I've configured it to be more RAM efficient as I do with all my apps. I used Firefox for years on Windows (and Linux)--now use Chrome--and, as I've said, never experienced this problem. Perhaps, it's just the way I set up my systems--lean and minimal--manage my applications, and use the system compared to others. I can only think that this VM problem, since you say it's been on-going for years with Opera and Firefox, is due to RAM caching. I turn that off, if I can. In fact, if I can, I turn off ALL browser caching. With today's high speed Internet service, such caching (RAM or disk) is of little value. When all there was was dial-up, things were different. Some of the reports showed issues no matter what setting were used for browser RAM caching. Note in the example links below that some comments are discussing memory usage, and others virtual memory usage which is what I'm referring to. Virtual Memory Consumption High - Opera for Windows - Opera Community http://my.opera.com/community/forums...dml?id=1283812 High CPU usage and Opera do not Free RAM - arghh! - Opera browser - Opera Community http://my.opera.com/community/forums...mment96 66572 McAfee Communities: Mcshield.exe High Virtual Memory Usage https://community.mcafee.com/message/204476?tstart=0 I've seen similar threads in Mozilla forums over the years. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 08:52:06 -0400, glee wrote:
"Stefan Patric" wrote in message ... [snip] I can only think that this VM problem, since you say it's been on-going for years with Opera and Firefox, is due to RAM caching. I turn that off, if I can. In fact, if I can, I turn off ALL browser caching. With today's high speed Internet service, such caching (RAM or disk) is of little value. When all there was was dial-up, things were different. Some of the reports showed issues no matter what setting were used for browser RAM caching. Note in the example links below that some comments are discussing memory usage, and others virtual memory usage which is what I'm referring to. Virtual Memory Consumption High - Opera for Windows - Opera Community http://my.opera.com/community/forums...dml?id=1283812 High CPU usage and Opera do not Free RAM - arghh! - Opera browser - Opera Community http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml? id=1020442&t=1329815632&page=1#comment9666572 McAfee Communities: Mcshield.exe High Virtual Memory Usage https://community.mcafee.com/message/204476?tstart=0 I've seen similar threads in Mozilla forums over the years. I'm not doubting you: I've just never experienced it. Based on what was discussed in the links you gave, I still think it's due to RAM cacheing that runs out of available user RAM--reserving some for system use--and moves into virtual RAM. If it were a coding bug, the "problem" should occur on other OSes like Linux and OSX that the browsers run on. But it doesn't seem to. Of course, Linux and OSX have much better memory management than Windows. I'm going to see if I can create the problem. Just for fun. Has this occurred with Internet Explorer, too, or only with Firefox and Opera? Stef |
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