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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in
Windows 10" by Susan Bradley Here is the latest update -- https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10? tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October 29, 2015 called -- "Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10" http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link -- If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options" and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10 I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed on us unwillingly. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maurice Helwig ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
Maurice Helwig wrote:
I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in Windows 10" by Susan Bradley Here is the latest update -- https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10? tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October 29, 2015 called -- "Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10" http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link -- If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options" and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10 I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed on us unwillingly. The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on what is included in each update and what system changes should be noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10**** - i.e. applicable using Win10 The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x). Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment, classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition. - i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10 Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before -- ....winston |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
....winston wrote:
Maurice Helwig wrote: I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in Windows 10" by Susan Bradley Here is the latest update -- https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10? tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October 29, 2015 called -- "Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10" http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link -- If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options" and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10 I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed on us unwillingly. The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on what is included in each update and what system changes should be noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10**** - i.e. applicable using Win10 The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x). Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment, classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition. - i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10 Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before I notice the sentences; "If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk of internet threats." There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door. I can see their point of view. Ed |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:38:13 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote:
Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 Github gives a simple batch file to create the key: https://github.com/atw-skomatsu/disable-windows-os- upgrade/blob/master/batch/disable-os-upgrade.bat I suspect the batch file needs to be run in a command window with administrative rights. ====== Woody Leonhard revealed that the KB 3083710 and 3083711 updates of 15 October actually change this key back to 0, disabling it and re- allowing the PUP download of Windows 10! So if you apply those updates, you'll have to set the value again: http://www.infoworld.com/article/299...windows/check- that-your-windows-10-upgrade-block-settings-are-still-in-force.html ====== Howtogeek seems to be saying that you must first install https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988 to make that Registry hack effective. http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-...s-7-or-8-from- downloading-windows-10-automatically/?PageSpeed=noscript Does anyone know whether that is true? ====== Woody L. recommends GWX Control Panel, formerly called GWX stopper: http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...wx-stopper-to- permanently-remove.html It's been mentioned in these groups before. The latest version is dated 20 October 2015. This is not an installer just a program that you download and can then when you need to remove Windows-10-upgrade malware. If you use this, please consider donating to the author (with whom I have no connection). I provide a lot of free information on my Web site, and many people write about it but very few donate, so I know how disappointing it can be when few people express their appreciation for something that takes a lot of work. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 08:26:14 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
Woody L. recommends GWX Control Panel, formerly called GWX stopper: http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...wx-stopper-to- permanently-remove.html It's been mentioned in these groups before. The latest version is dated 20 October 2015. This is not an installer just a program that you download and can then when you need to remove Windows-10-upgrade malware. I have just clicked the Donate button and donated $10.00. TYhough I've so far managed to avoid Windows 10 on my Win 7 and 8.1 systems, as Microsoft keeps ramping up its efforts to push this unwanted OS I welcome having a simple utility that I can run periodically and make sure I'm still safe. How soon with Malwarebytes add GWX as a PUP, I wonder? Legally they'd be safe, because they call malware _Potentially_ Unwanted Programs, but still I doubt they'd do it because Microsoft is a 500-pound gorilla. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
Ed Cryer wrote:
...winston wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in Windows 10" by Susan Bradley Here is the latest update -- https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10? tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October 29, 2015 called -- "Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10" http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link -- If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options" and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10 I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed on us unwillingly. The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on what is included in each update and what system changes should be noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10**** - i.e. applicable using Win10 The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x). Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment, classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition. - i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10 Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before I notice the sentences; "If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk of internet threats." There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door. I can see their point of view. Ed You probably also noticed that sentence said 7 and 8.1 but not 10. Why ? - the same as before -- the petition covered after 10, the article you referenced before. Do you actually have a metered connection on 10 or just hypothesizing that 10 is the same as 7/8.1 ? -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
....winston‫ wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: ...winston wrote: Maurice Helwig wrote: I Recently signed a petition -- "What Computer users want changed in Windows 10" by Susan Bradley Here is the latest update -- https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...in-windows-10? tk=qveISN3Wqh6NViwmrBr2lJHbGPPst1qfuj_R1hehB1Q&utm _source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Here seems to be a reply from Terry Myerson (Microsoft) dated October 29, 2015 called -- "Making it Easier to Upgrade to Windows 10" http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ In an email update from Susan Bradley there is this statement and link -- If you don't want it, ensure you add a registry key noted https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 as follows: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The link is called "How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options" and tells you how to modify the registry to prevent update to win 10 I hope this is of some help to those of us who do not want win 10 pushed on us unwillingly. The petition you signed is about (1)returning user control to permit local configurable options available in Win8.1 and earlier for MSFT deployed updates and (2)the need for more detail and transparency on what is included in each update and what system changes should be noticeable from cumulative updates *****in Windows 10**** - i.e. applicable using Win10 The petition is not even remotely about upgrading to Win10 nor how to prevent a Windows 10 upgrade from earlier qualifying o/s(7/8x). Additionally the link you referenced is about the deployment, classification and mechanism to upgrade to Windows 10 therefore Myerson's comments is not a reply to the petition. - i.e. applicable to upgrading from Win7Sp1/8.1 to Win10 Two different items. One after upgrading/using Win10...the other before I notice the sentences; "If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk of internet threats." There's the crux. MS strongly discourage it, and they'll continue to do so. They'll probably combat all hacks and workarounds they find. It's their policy. And even if you were to cry "But give the more experienced among us the option" they'd refuse to open the door. I can see their point of view. Ed You probably also noticed that sentence said 7 and 8.1 but not 10. Why ? - the same as before -- the petition covered after 10, the article you referenced before. Do you actually have a metered connection on 10 or just hypothesizing that 10 is the same as 7/8.1 ? Not hypothesising at all. Read on to "Windows 10 will not automatically download updates on a metered connection unless.........." Ed |
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How to manage Windows 10 notification and upgrade options
Stan Brown wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:38:13 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote: Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUp date DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 Github gives a simple batch file to create the key: https://github.com/atw-skomatsu/disable-windows-os- upgrade/blob/master/batch/disable-os-upgrade.bat I suspect the batch file needs to be run in a command window with administrative rights. ====== Woody Leonhard revealed that the KB 3083710 and 3083711 updates of 15 October actually change this key back to 0, disabling it and re- allowing the PUP download of Windows 10! So if you apply those updates, you'll have to set the value again: http://www.infoworld.com/article/299...windows/check- that-your-windows-10-upgrade-block-settings-are-still-in-force.html ====== Howtogeek seems to be saying that you must first install https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988 to make that Registry hack effective. http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-...s-7-or-8-from- downloading-windows-10-automatically/?PageSpeed=noscript Does anyone know whether that is true? Hi, Stan. Can't duplicate 308710/11(on Win7/8) resetting the disable o/s upgrade registry value from 1 to 0 when previously configured to 1 With respect to the Howtogeek Article ? - Looks like old, obsolete information recommending the July 2015 3065987/3065988 (7/8.1 respectively) Windows Update Client since 5987/5988 were replaced by 3075851/5853 WU Client in August; WU Client 3083324/3325 in Sept; which then are replaced in Oct. by WU Client 3083710/3711 - the last being the two Woody stated reset the reg value to 0. I've tested every combination possible with the reg value set to one before and after each and every Windows Update client released starting with June (3050265/0267 replaced by 3065987/5988 in July) through October without any impact on the value previously set to 1 changing to 0. It's possible the infoworld article didn't comprehend the difference in Home vs. Pro, creating the reg value from scratch or using Group Policy before reporting the feedback or findings. Since the howtogeek article is referring to a required KB obsoleted by two subsequent updates before Oct 2015's alleged registry resetting WU Client - then proving what might be true in July/Aug could be challenging. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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