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Old November 2nd 18, 04:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jeff Barnett[_2_]
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I'm running Win 7 PRO SP1 64-bit with a 256GB SSD (Samsung 840 PRO) as
my C disk. Since the price is dropping, I'm considering replacing the
256 SSD with the newer and larger 1T Samsung 860 PRO. The systems were
home built using OEM copies of Windows bought at and from Amazon.com.
The systems were built mid 2014 and have never needed license revalidation.

My questions, motivated by some recent threads in this newsgroup, are

1. Is replacing the C disk as described likely to trigger a need to
revalidate the systems?

2. If so, is there any reason to believe revalidation to be difficult or
impossible at this time.

Thanks in advance for any information or informed opinions that you may
offer me.
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Old November 2nd 18, 05:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Jeff Barnett wrote:
I'm running Win 7 PRO SP1 64-bit with a 256GB SSD (Samsung 840 PRO) as my C disk. Since
the price is dropping, I'm considering replacing the 256 SSD with the newer and larger 1T
Samsung 860 PRO. The systems were home built using OEM copies of Windows bought at and
from Amazon.com. The systems were built mid 2014 and have never needed license revalidation.

My questions, motivated by some recent threads in this newsgroup, are

1. Is replacing the C disk as described likely to trigger a need to revalidate the systems?

2. If so, is there any reason to believe revalidation to be difficult or impossible at
this time.

Thanks in advance for any information or informed opinions that you may offer me.


I recently replaced my Win 7 WD 500 Black with a 970PRO 512 Nvme m.2 and did not have any
issues. It never asked for a revalid. IDK why not.
From what I read on this NG I was prepared to reval over the web or call the
MS reval phone but it never asked.

Also replaced the laptop's Win 7 256mb 5400 rpm spinner with a 500 gb 860 pci.
It never asked to revalid that machine either.

I cloned the machines hdds to the respective ssd's.


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Old November 2nd 18, 05:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Jeff Barnett wrote:
I'm running Win 7 PRO SP1 64-bit with a 256GB SSD (Samsung 840 PRO) as
my C disk. Since the price is dropping, I'm considering replacing the
256 SSD with the newer and larger 1T Samsung 860 PRO. The systems were
home built using OEM copies of Windows bought at and from Amazon.com.
The systems were built mid 2014 and have never needed license revalidation.

My questions, motivated by some recent threads in this newsgroup, are

1. Is replacing the C disk as described likely to trigger a need to
revalidate the systems?

2. If so, is there any reason to believe revalidation to be difficult or
impossible at this time.

Thanks in advance for any information or informed opinions that you may
offer me.


Unless you've been changing a lot of other hardware
details on the system, it should be "clone and go".

*******

I have three Win7 drives derived from the same master,
which I swap into the PC they're normally associated with.
And there's never been an activation issue.

Most people, correlate the behaviors they see, with what
someone wrote up in this article. It's assumed the same
thinking goes into later OSes. Because copies of Win10
with license keys, are still for sale today, and so an
activation scheme is necessary to prevent "open season".

http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm

Changing a motherboard might lead to an immediate request
for reactivation. Whereas you could change the CPU from
2 cores to 4 cores, change the RAM from 4GB to 8GB, then...
allow a year to pass, plug in a cloned drive, and it
tips over and gives 72 hours to re-activate. The drive
serial number does count for *something*, but if
your core hardware is stable from the day of
original installation, you really have nothing
to worry about.

And there's no system indicator that I know of, that
tells you "how close" you are. I can explain stuff
like this, and still receive questions like "I have
3GB of RAM and a 7 core CPU and..." expecting me to
predict which phase of the moon will tip it over.
All I've got, is the info everyone else has got, which
is the above article. If it tips over, it tips over.

Systems tip over all the time, indicating they're
"Not Genuine", and sometimes the MGADiag program
will indicate what the root cause is. There used to be
a place to ask about that on one of the Microsoft
forums. Some of the discussion threads are hilarious,
because the forum answerers "back away" when they
see blatant license abuse, and the person asking the
question, with the visible evidence right in the MGAdiag
output, still expects the world to pivot to his
view and "give him a new OS". It doesn't work that
way. There are cases that make no sense, and other
comical ones where someone got shafted by their
local computer shop. And the evidence is right in
the MGADiag (Microsoft Genuine Advantage Diagnostic)
output.

Paul
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Old November 4th 18, 05:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Arlen_Holder
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On Fri, 02 Nov 2018 01:34:32 -0400, Paul wrote:

Unless you've been changing a lot of other hardware
details on the system, it should be "clone and go".


I agree with what Paul says, which is that as long as you don't change "big
stuff", you're good to go.

At least I have always been so when I only changed a hard disk drive or
two.

Let us know how it goes as we all learn from each other in every thread.
 




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