A Snitting we will go!

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159159190100
Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot
but to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was
merely the compiled code he had:


-----
Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
provided the original source code that was
compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
still tells you *everything* about the program.
-----

So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My
guess: he will NEVER say.

*** end snittage lie

Looks like quite a lie to me - complete with a question to give the
lie you wrote credibility. The question directly implies that what
you wrote above it has already been an established fact - which isn't
the case.

I want to see the post(s) where I "made it quite clear" that I had
access to more than just the posts the bots been making (the output -
atleast what's available to an end user; admin may provide more
information). I want to see the post(s) where I was "called out", and
finally, I want to see the post(s) where I clarified I had the
"compiled code".

So, that being stated, about that question then Snit? Any reasonable
answer? Any reasonable answer for why you haven't provided those MIDs
yet Snit?

So, if you don't lie, Snit, how do you explain what you wrote and how
do you explain your continued refusal to provide the MIDs to those
posts you claimed exist which would support your claims there, Snit?

Why, if you aren't a liar, can't you backup what you wrote with those
MIDs? You were very specific in what you claimed took place as you
wrote the bull**** story, Snit. I'd think you'd want to put me in my
place by backing your story up with those MIDs. That would shut me up
for sure. Yet, you don't provide any. I wonder why that might be.
BFG - No such posts exist Snit. You LIED ABOUT IT ALL. You are A
confirmed, liar. No question about it. No denying it. Snit *IS A
LIAR*

If you didn't lie, you should have absolutely no trouble whatsoever
answering every single one of those questions, reasonably, and
intelligently snit. Let us clear up this 'misunderstanding' so that
we can move onto having 'conversations' in the future. What do you
say?


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Being a pain in the ass is a prerogative of the creative mind.

Snit
Sat, 01 Aug 2020 08:06:29 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 7/31/20 11:46 PM, Gremlin wrote:

You have accused me of not understanding what I read...

Yes, I have, multiple times now. I've even gone so far as to provide
actual evidence of it. Like, this for example:
Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159668367900

I changed my posting name back to an old one, Although I neglected
to specifically tell you I was Diesel, what I wrote that you
responded to, should have made it quite obvious I was also known as
Diesel. Let's review this one.

I wrote this, posting as Gremlin in response to something you wrote
that was taking a cheap shot at me, previously - due to our previous
discussion concerning AZ. Infact, you started going for that ruse
the moment it became obvious you couldn't make heads or tails of
some very simple instructions.

But what it is doing is getting the ASCII character of each code.
Given how ASCII is a standard, notice how Carroll did not have to
specify what OS or machine... ASCII will be the same on macOS,
Linux, Windows, etc.

ASCII is one standard, and this is all besides the point.

You responded to that with this:

It was pretty key to the point I was making, and perhaps the one
Carroll was.

But, of course, being that you almost surely ARE Carroll you can
speak for him. And, again being Carroll, you will try to speak FOR
me, and your posts will show your obsession with me. And you will
"magically" have knowledge of Carroll's accusations from the past,
but then whenever I quote Carroll you will pretend to not know a
thing about it and demand Message IDs and then twist just as Carroll
does.

All predictable. And all explained best by you being yet another
Carroll sock. You really do not understand how poorly you hide your
tells, Carroll -- but folks like Diesel will PRETEND to not see to
further their trolling, and you will use their insecurities to
manipulate them. Again, all very predictable.

See below for a string of your tells... you really just can't deal
with the fact I have you set on auto-read. You NEED my attention.
How pathetic.

Here's what I wrote below again, posting as Gremlin (it's all from
the same post, available via MID and howardknight 'bookmark' link at
the top of this post), what you plainly stated was a string of
Carroll and or Carroll socking tells:

The only reason you jumped on me for specifying the codepage in
the AZ thread was to cover up your severe reading comprehension on
display when you told us how 'confusing' the instructions were, as
you proceeded to 'improve' them with your take on what you thought
you understood.

Snit, I'm the *only one* who specified the codepage in the AZ
documentation I shared with you, because well er, I wrote the
documentation, the program, and of course, created the algorithm it
uses; although it's nothing special - It's just a base26 converter
at the end of the day.

Carroll had nothing to do with any of that, so this couldn't very
well be a 'tell' of Gremlin either being Carroll and/or a sock of
Carrolls; as again, Gremlin (that's me!) was writing about what you
did concerning the AZ algorithm description I provided you. Which
could only mean, quite simply, going by the reply I wrote as Gremlin
that Gremlin and Diesel are one in the same person. Even a child
could see that, Snit. Why didn't you?

Oh, but wait, I've got another great example to show you:

Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159667571100

This is what you were provided from the AZ documentation, fully
explaining the algorithm:

ENCODING IN THE AZ FORMAT EXPLAINED:


Step 1. Determine the ASCII value of the character we intend to
encode

Step 2. Set A1 and A2 variables at the ascii value for A (On the IBM
platform that value is 65) Set counter to 0.

Step 3. Check to see if counter is equal to the ascii value obtained
in Step 1. if so, convert A1 and A2, each to a character.
Combine them in reverse order, as in A2 A1. This is our 2 byte
encoded "AZ" format. Write this to the output file and return to
Step 1. If the counter and the ascii value do not match, add 1 to
A1.

If A1 goes past the ascii value for Z (which is 90 on IBM), reset it
to A (65 on IBM) and add 1 to A2. Add 1 to the counter and repeat
Step 3.

DECODING IN THE AZ FORMAT EXPLAINED:

Step 1. Determine the "AZ" code to process. (As in read it from a
file or a device, be sure to read in two characters :-))

Step 2. Set A1 and A2 variables at the ascii value for A (On the IBM
platform that value is 65) Set counter to 0.

Step 3. Convert A1 and A2, each to a character. Combine them in
reverse order, as in A2 A1. This is a test "AZ" code to match with
the one we read in, If they match, convert the counter into its
character value and write it to the device or file (we have
found the match, and the original code, we can now return to step 1
for more "AZ" codes). If they do not match, add one to the
counter, and A1, if A1 is greater then 90, reset it to 65 and add one
to A2. Return to step 3. If the counter hits 255, then no
possible match has been found, Return to step 1.

And this is your reply. I've also included the entire thread so
anyone else can see for themselves how bad your comprehension
actually is.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...er.workshop/az
$20snit%7Csort:date/alt.computer.workshop/T5-Mammb0IA/SIvvu0IxBQAJ

Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159658625100


OK, looking at the encoding provided by Diesel... seems odd. Could
be my lack of understanding in places, but clearly he also has some
areas of confusion.

-----
ENCODING IN THE AZ FORMAT EXPLAINED:

Step 1. Determine the ASCII value of the character we
intend to encode
-----

Presumably this is just the first character. Then the second. Then
the third. Until we get to the end. In simple language:

Repeat with theCharacter from 1 to count of characters in theText

Maybe it is count -1 since he seems to look at two characters at a
time (though he never really says that). But so far so good.

-----
Step 2. Set A1 and A2 variables at the ascii value for A
(On the IBM platform that value is 65) Set counter
to 0.
-----

This is odd. Why not just set A1 and A2 to 65 given how that is
ALWAYS the ASCII value of "A". This is true not only of 7 bit ASCII,
but also 8 bit (extended) ASCII. So to use our simple language it is
just:

Set A1 to 65
Set A2 to 65
Set Counter to 0

So far so good. Ish. Why not just say that?

-----
Step 3. Check to see if counter is equal to the ascii
value obtained in Step 1. if so, convert A1 and
A2, each to a character. Combine them in reverse
order, as in A2 A1. This is our 2 byte encoded
"AZ" format. Write this to the output file and
return to Step 1. If the counter and the ascii
value do not match, add 1 to A1. If A1 goes past
the ascii value for Z (which is 90 on IBM), reset
it to A (65 on IBM) and add 1 to A2. Add 1 to the
counter and repeat Step 3.
------

This is where things get weird, at least to me. The Counter is set
to the ASCII value of A, and then in the next round to the value of
B. But with the A1 and A2 he is just rotating them 1 (similar to
what I said with ROT-13 but only one character). And he has the
wrap-around... so "A" becomes "B", "B" becomes "C".... "Z" becomes
"A". But he has no such wrap around described for the counter... so
after the first 26 additions to the Counter the value of Counter
goes past the values of A-Z and would never match the ASCII value of
a character. Seems the counter would have to be reset. And having
the counter and comparing it to the value really adds very little
except the occasional "bumping" of a character to rotate more than
once. Oh, and does he ever say to look at the next character?

He again talks about the ASCII value on "IBM", as if a "American
Standard Code for Information Interchange" would be different on
different systems when it is, by definition, a "standard". Seems
amazingly odd a programmer would not know this... not putting Diesel
down here but I am curious as to what he was thinking when he wrote
that!

Anyway, seems the counter needs to go back to the value of "A" (65)
but he never says that.

Again, maybe I am missing something. Diesel, can you explain?

-----
As you can see, the AZ format is really not that hard to code
for other programs such as OffLine Mail Readers and the like.
-----

At least from what I can tell, and I might be wrong, you did not
describe it correctly.

*** end paste

As various others in the thread all point out to you, the only one
who has the problem with understanding things concerning AZ was and
still is, you. And, only you. Everyone else understood the material
I shared, except for you. And as anyone can see in the post here,
everytime you ****up and don't understand something (which was a lot
in this case), you try and make the other person share some/all of
the blame. It's never your fault. Except, here, it clearly was; and
various others even corrected your efforts to try and pin anything
on me.

If you require more examples of your severe reading comprehension
issue on display for us all to see, just let me know. I do have more
examples I can share and I'll happily do so. G

well, until your tantrum here I was never QUITE sure what the kids
meant by "butt-hurt". Thank you, I guess, for the demonstration.

Hmm. Are you a premature ejaculator too, Snit? As well, you've
prematurely reached the conclusion I was in any way, "butt-hurt" by
your lack of reading comprehension demonstration seen in this
reply...

Wow. You are freaking out BAD

Ahh, yes, psychobabble bull**** time. If i'm not mistaken, thats
Snitlist entry number 20..Ah yes, confirmed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529...ieMethods.html

20. Lies by falsely attributing negative emotions to the person
he's attacking, when they haven't displayed any at all.

Examples: "shows rage", "got really, really angry. Furious",
"absolute *rage*", "freaks out", "lashes out", "lash out
with anger", "major hate-spewing", "really hates learning",
"****es the herd off", "lash out with *extreme* hatred and anger",
"*major* attack mode", "humiliating", "getting ****ed off",
"Such hatred and anger from you", "you are just freaking out.
Enraged. Completely unable to control yourself.", "freak out mode",
"You are on a hate-filled rampage", "Filled with rage and obvious
hatred", "hate-filled, enraged lies, attacks, insults, name calling",
"lash out with such fury", "you freaked out", "has you ****ed off",
"spewing such hate-filled lies and attacks", "you are so upset
recently", "Amazing how little self control you have",
"hate-filled attack mode", "freak out and go into major attack
mode", "hate-filled, fear-filled attacks", "hate-and-fear-filled
attacks", "you run away spewing hate-filled attacks", "fearful",
"hate-filled dishonest attack rants", "Completely irrational,
hate-filled nonsense", "run and whine and attack...fear",
"get angry and lash out", "runs away crying", "hate-filled spree
of attacks", "freaked out even more! Holy cow!", "massive
hate-filled irrational rage", "irrational hate filled attacks",
"hatred and feelings of persecution", "enraged... unable to focus
or think. He is in a massive hate-filled irrational rage where all
he can do is lash out", "lashes out with hate-filled rants",
"You are enraged... beside yourself with anger. Unable to control
yourself", "obvious hatred", "You have a strong persecution complex",
"Holy cow! You lost it! You became enraged and increased your name
calling and accusations and insults. You just could not stop yourself
- you were out of control!", "This was too much for you. Wow. You
just completely lost it", "you just attack, attack, attack. ...
Wow... you really have lost it. I wish you the best!",
"threw a toddler tantrum", "cannot stop himself from posting
outrageous hate-filled attacks and insults and lies",
"clearly very frustrated", "you lash out with insults, attacks,
and your ever-present view of your persecution", "pretty much
belittles anyone", "special form of arrogance and conceit",
"put others down", "calm down", "amazingly bent out of shape",
"you are so filled with hatred and anger and the inescapable need
to call people names", "You are a very, very angry person!",
"so angry and out of control"

Anything look familiar?

over not being able to show you can
even find the posts referenced by the following IDs, no less
actually show any understanding of the content:

Really? Because, this reply is full of howardknight bookmark url
links; which I created by providing howardknight the MID to the post
and then I clicked 'view as a bookmark' in the upper left. I've been
doing that for years, btw, Snit, would you like to see some of my
posts from years ago clearly showing I know how to get a message
from it's MID? But that's not the only way in which I can pull a
message from it's MID. I can also use my client in a variety of
different ways, as I described in a previous reply concerning your
hilariously, false accusation. another, false accusation. Again,
when you're in a hole the size of the one you've dug for yourself,
the last thing you need to be doing is continue to dig. That's not
how you get out of the hole you're in.
















None of these address my questions, Snit. And as Apd already told you, along with my self, there was no subject/topic change
and the cherry picked paragraph you selected as proof to support your accusation is nothing of the kind.

What Apd wrote:
Message-ID:
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159549554500

You wrote:

He insists he meant some code other than the code to Carroll's
Usenet flood bot. OK. Maybe I missed the context -- but if so then
what code did he mean. He never says. That shoots down his own
argument.

Which incidently, is the jest of what all fourteen of those replies
you wrote are, Snit. You repeated yourself, essentially, fourteen
times, and never answered my questions as you did so.

Apd responded to that with:

He was speaking about code in general, not any particular piece of
software. He said as much.

** end

These are the questions I've been asking you about the post you
wrote claiming I had the bot in compiled code form, no less.

I want to see the post(s) where I "made it quite clear" that I had
access to more than just the posts the bots been making (the output -
atleast what's available to an end user; admin may provide more
information). I want to see the post(s) where I was "called out", and
finally, I want to see the post(s) where I clarified I had the
"compiled code".

So, that being stated, about that question then Snit? Any reasonable
answer? Any reasonable answer for why you haven't provided those MIDs
yet Snit?

So, if you don't lie, Snit, how do you explain what you wrote and how
do you explain your continued refusal to provide the MIDs to those
posts you claimed exist which would support your claims there, Snit?

If you ask very nicely I might even give you direct links so you
can see the posts. Doubt there is anything I, or ANYONE, can do to
help you be able to understand the content though.

If I ask nicely? I've already shown that I already know how to
get the posts, and that you've once again pulled something straight
out of your asshole about me, Snit. It's quite obvious, you feel
very inferior to me. And I can understand why.

You can't deal with, or otherwise hold your own with people who know
technical subject matter. Yes, I've been reading some older threads
where other individuals you lied on took you to task over it, just
as I'm continuing to do. And as you've been trying to do with me,
you tried to spin a tale to try and discredit them too. And as
expected, it never works out for you. It always blows up in your
face. Quite nicely. The eventual outcome with me will be no
different, Snit. I'm not going to let this go.


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Not a real tagline, but an incredible soy substitute.