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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
VanguardLH wrote:
Not applicable. If you don't configure the connectoid to use the ISP's DHCP server to have it assign you a DNS server then you don't get one from them. You just use the one that you specified. I realize that DHCP is not even applicable for a dialup connection since it don't have a DHCP setting. The PPP does the tasks like a DHCP for IP & DNS assignment. I merely thought that DHCP could be a way to the solution, since the IPCONFIG shows this. PPP adapter CDMA: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.191.37.188 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.191.37.188 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 8.8.8.8 58.6.115.42 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled That IP address is dynamic / auto-assign, while the DNS are static / fixed. It shows a DHCP entry and it's not enabled. And yes, it's a private IP address. I'm using IPv4 and the public IP address is different (probably my ISP firewall). In case you're wondering. This are the screenshots of my the dialup connection settings. http://i.imgur.com/qPdhi.png |
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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
"JJ" wrote in message ... Char Jackson wrote: Are you saying it's not good enough to get the ISP's DNS information you're looking for, and then go back to your hardcoded DNS? If so, there's something you're not telling us. Because I would need to dial it twice. You can't change a live dialup DNS setting, since it's only in effect for the next conection session. Dialup is different from LAN. LAN DNS can be changed on the fly and be applied immediately. I've been reading this thread, and at this point, I cannot determine what it is you actually want to do, and why. You've been told how to find your ISPs DNS server address.... by connecting without static addresses and viewing what's assigned. What else is it you are trying to do, exactly? Give complete information on what your goal is, please! -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:18:11 +0000 (UTC), JJ
wrote: Char Jackson wrote: Are you saying it's not good enough to get the ISP's DNS information you're looking for, and then go back to your hardcoded DNS? If so, there's something you're not telling us. Because I would need to dial it twice. You can't change a live dialup DNS setting, since it's only in effect for the next conection session. Dialup is different from LAN. LAN DNS can be changed on the fly and be applied immediately. Your dial-up ISP doesn't push random DNS IP's to you upon every connection. The DNS IP's that they push today are probably the same as what they've been using for years, and likewise probably the same as what they'll use for the foreseeable future. This isn't a test that you need to do more than once. Do it once, make a note of their DNS IP's, and you're done. |
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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
"glee" wrote:
I've been reading this thread, and at this point, I cannot determine what it is you actually want to do, and why. You've been told how to find your ISPs DNS server address.... by connecting without static addresses and viewing what's assigned. What else is it you are trying to do, exactly? Give complete information on what your goal is, please! The information I need is pretty simple: Get or record the DNS server addresses that are offered at the time my dialup is connected. They must not be retrived from other sources. e.g.: NSLOOKUP. Dialup details and "rules": 1. Once the dialup is connected, it must not be disconnected. Even just to retrieve the offered DNS information. 2. Dialup connection is using static DNS (my custom DNS): Google DNS and one from other ISP. This must not be changed at the start of dialup connection. Also see below acceptable alternative solution. 3. Connection is still using IPv4. Switching to IPv6 is not applicable. 4. Probably due to IPv4, the dialup has no pulic IP. It IP is always 10.x.x.x. Having no public IP is not a problem nor I have plan to get one. 5. Probably also due to IPv4, the offered DNS when using dynamic DNS are also 10.x.x.x (this is why NSLOOKUP is not applicable). The 10.x.x.x DNS are also seem dynamic (varies more than just 2 different IPs). It's like the 10.x.x.x DNS are unique for each dialup connection session. The problem: Due to static DNS, the offered DNS addresses are ignored and deleted. There seems to be no record/log about it. Other acceptable alternative solution: Before connecting, set the dialup to use dynamic DNS (auto DNS). Once conected, get the offerred DNS (that are currently in use/assigned) via IPCONFIG. Then somehow change current connection session DNS setting (not the permanent one; i.e.: registry) to use my custom DNS. However, I don't how to change the DNS and apply it without disconnecting the dialup (remember that the dialup must not be disconnected). Why I need to do this: I simply don't trust my ISP DNS. I will only use them as the very last resort (as backup of a backup via manual DNS query). |
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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:16:58 +0000 (UTC), JJ
wrote: "glee" wrote: I've been reading this thread, and at this point, I cannot determine what it is you actually want to do, and why. You've been told how to find your ISPs DNS server address.... by connecting without static addresses and viewing what's assigned. What else is it you are trying to do, exactly? Give complete information on what your goal is, please! The information I need is pretty simple: Get or record the DNS server addresses that are offered at the time my dialup is connected. They must not be retrived from other sources. e.g.: NSLOOKUP. Dialup details and "rules": 1. Once the dialup is connected, it must not be disconnected. Even just to retrieve the offered DNS information. 2. Dialup connection is using static DNS (my custom DNS): Google DNS and one from other ISP. This must not be changed at the start of dialup connection. Also see below acceptable alternative solution. 3. Connection is still using IPv4. Switching to IPv6 is not applicable. 4. Probably due to IPv4, the dialup has no pulic IP. It IP is always 10.x.x.x. Having no public IP is not a problem nor I have plan to get one. 5. Probably also due to IPv4, the offered DNS when using dynamic DNS are also 10.x.x.x (this is why NSLOOKUP is not applicable). The 10.x.x.x DNS are also seem dynamic (varies more than just 2 different IPs). It's like the 10.x.x.x DNS are unique for each dialup connection session. The problem: Due to static DNS, the offered DNS addresses are ignored and deleted. There seems to be no record/log about it. Other acceptable alternative solution: Before connecting, set the dialup to use dynamic DNS (auto DNS). Once conected, get the offerred DNS (that are currently in use/assigned) via IPCONFIG. Then somehow change current connection session DNS setting (not the permanent one; i.e.: registry) to use my custom DNS. However, I don't how to change the DNS and apply it without disconnecting the dialup (remember that the dialup must not be disconnected). Why I need to do this: I simply don't trust my ISP DNS. I will only use them as the very last resort (as backup of a backup via manual DNS query). What are you hoping to accomplish? Your "why I need to do this" section is woefully lacking. Several of the other sections are likewise woefully lacking, but I'm most interested in the last part. You've indicated that you've already retrieved your ISP's DNS IP's but you want to do it again for some reason that you haven't mentioned. If it's so important to get those IP's while not disturbing a dial-up session already in progress, get a second computer, put a modem in it, get a second phone line, and go to town with it. The more you "explain" what you're trying to do, the less sense it makes. |
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Detailed dialup network connection logging?
JJ wrote:
The information I need is pretty simple: Get or record the DNS server addresses that are offered at the time my dialup is connected. They must not be retrived from other sources. e.g.: NSLOOKUP. How many DNS servers do you think your ISP has to provide to you? While the ISP may have several DNS servers, that would be for regional assignment for load balancing on their servers for all their users. You aren't supposed to use a DNS server outside their region to which you belong so you always get the same DNS server from them. The first time you find out what DNS server they give you will be the same DNS server they always give you. Every time you open their door, it's the same person standing there no matter how many times you shut and close the door to go look again. The problem: Due to static DNS, the offered DNS addresses are ignored and deleted. There seems to be no record/log about it. Yep, just as you have been told before. Since your host was told what DNS server(s) to use, it won't ask your ISP for an upstream DNS server. Why I need to do this: I simply don't trust my ISP DNS. I will only use them as the very last resort (as backup of a backup via manual DNS query). So why do you care what they *might* assign if you did NOT use statically assigned DNS server(s)? You already know how to find out which ONE they assign to you so you know which ONE to add last to your list of static DNS servers in the TCP/IP config of your dial-up connectoid. Seems you're deliberately dragging out this discussion when you have been told several times how to find out what your ISP would give you if you allowed dynamic assignment. The reason that others cannot figure out what "extra information" you need is that there isn't any and for some odd reason you think there is. Let it go. You already have been told how to get the info you want. |
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