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  #31  
Old May 6th 19, 03:33 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

"Jess Fertudei" wrote

| v53 on Win7
|
| I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
| xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF (telling
| it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last session,
| and...
| Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
| is disabled.

I'm using 52.9, the last version that works on XP.
I also put it on Win7-64. Works fine. Fully-functioning,
pre-crippled extensions work fine. With that setting
they just show a warning that they might be risky
when opening the add-ons window.
Since you only have 1 point newer anyway, you
might want to just go back to 52.9. That number might
seem old, but it's less than a year old and as far as
I can tell, things have only got worse since then. I
wa using 66 for awhile, out of curiosity, but it had
less settings control than ever without actually
working better.

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Adblockers: Have you considered a HOSTS file? I use
a HOSTS that blocks the major ad companies and
trackers. I haven't seen ad for years, but I've never
used an adblocker.
Also, if a site works without script then there's no way
for them to test for adblockers. Though some sites
malfunction without script and I have to view them with
no style.

Unfortunately, a lot of the problems are due more
to incompetence than restrictions. Most webmasters
just don't know what they're doing and they're catering
more to phones. Webmasters also keep changing their
code, at a crazy rate. Very few commercial sites stay
stable for more than a couple of months at a time.
I visit BBC news and WashPo without script. But Boston
globe just recently broke and I have to view it with no
style because otherwise there's a menu covering 1/3 of
the page. TheRegister.co.uk is fine without script, though
recently it was broken. wired.com works fine... this month.
Atlantic Monthly looks great, though it used to have
headlines that ran together.... And so on.


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  #32  
Old May 6th 19, 03:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired Newversion corrected problem

On 5/5/2019 10:33 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Jess Fertudei" wrote

| v53 on Win7
|
| I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
| xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF (telling
| it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last session,
| and...
| Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
| is disabled.

I'm using 52.9, the last version that works on XP.
I also put it on Win7-64. Works fine. Fully-functioning,
pre-crippled extensions work fine. With that setting
they just show a warning that they might be risky
when opening the add-ons window.
Since you only have 1 point newer anyway, you
might want to just go back to 52.9. That number might
seem old, but it's less than a year old and as far as
I can tell, things have only got worse since then. I
wa using 66 for awhile, out of curiosity, but it had
less settings control than ever without actually
working better.

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Adblockers: Have you considered a HOSTS file? I use
a HOSTS that blocks the major ad companies and
trackers. I haven't seen ad for years, but I've never
used an adblocker.
Also, if a site works without script then there's no way
for them to test for adblockers. Though some sites
malfunction without script and I have to view them with
no style.

Unfortunately, a lot of the problems are due more
to incompetence than restrictions. Most webmasters
just don't know what they're doing and they're catering
more to phones. Webmasters also keep changing their
code, at a crazy rate. Very few commercial sites stay
stable for more than a couple of months at a time.
I visit BBC news and WashPo without script. But Boston
globe just recently broke and I have to view it with no
style because otherwise there's a menu covering 1/3 of
the page. TheRegister.co.uk is fine without script, though
recently it was broken. wired.com works fine... this month.
Atlantic Monthly looks great, though it used to have
headlines that ran together.... And so on.


The the bug in Firefox was corrected and 66.0.4 allowed ALL of my addons
to be become active. This included Clippings Adblock, Google Translate
and a half dozen other addons.

--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre
  #33  
Old May 6th 19, 03:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jess Fertudei
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired New version corrected problem

Keith Nuttle wrote on 5/5/2019 :
On 5/5/2019 10:33 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Jess Fertudei" wrote

| v53 on Win7
|
| I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
| xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF (telling
| it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last session,
| and...
| Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
| is disabled.

I'm using 52.9, the last version that works on XP.
I also put it on Win7-64. Works fine. Fully-functioning,
pre-crippled extensions work fine. With that setting
they just show a warning that they might be risky
when opening the add-ons window.
Since you only have 1 point newer anyway, you
might want to just go back to 52.9. That number might
seem old, but it's less than a year old and as far as
I can tell, things have only got worse since then. I
wa using 66 for awhile, out of curiosity, but it had
less settings control than ever without actually
working better.

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Adblockers: Have you considered a HOSTS file? I use
a HOSTS that blocks the major ad companies and
trackers. I haven't seen ad for years, but I've never
used an adblocker.
Also, if a site works without script then there's no way
for them to test for adblockers. Though some sites
malfunction without script and I have to view them with
no style.

Unfortunately, a lot of the problems are due more
to incompetence than restrictions. Most webmasters
just don't know what they're doing and they're catering
more to phones. Webmasters also keep changing their
code, at a crazy rate. Very few commercial sites stay
stable for more than a couple of months at a time.
I visit BBC news and WashPo without script. But Boston
globe just recently broke and I have to view it with no
style because otherwise there's a menu covering 1/3 of
the page. TheRegister.co.uk is fine without script, though
recently it was broken. wired.com works fine... this month.
Atlantic Monthly looks great, though it used to have
headlines that ran together.... And so on.


The the bug in Firefox was corrected and 66.0.4 allowed ALL of my addons to
be become active. This included Clippings Adblock, Google Translate and a
half dozen other addons.


Why would I want to install 66 when it is crippled compared to 53?
Really wondering if I can even trust Mozilla at all, anymore...
  #34  
Old May 6th 19, 03:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jess Fertudei
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

Mayayana wrote on 5/5/2019 :
"Jess Fertudei" wrote

v53 on Win7

I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF (telling
it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last session,
and...
Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
is disabled.


I'm using 52.9, the last version that works on XP.
I also put it on Win7-64. Works fine. Fully-functioning,
pre-crippled extensions work fine. With that setting
they just show a warning that they might be risky
when opening the add-ons window.
Since you only have 1 point newer anyway, you
might want to just go back to 52.9. That number might
seem old, but it's less than a year old and as far as
I can tell, things have only got worse since then. I
wa using 66 for awhile, out of curiosity, but it had
less settings control than ever without actually
working better.

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Adblockers: Have you considered a HOSTS file? I use
a HOSTS that blocks the major ad companies and
trackers. I haven't seen ad for years, but I've never
used an adblocker.
Also, if a site works without script then there's no way
for them to test for adblockers. Though some sites
malfunction without script and I have to view them with
no style.

Unfortunately, a lot of the problems are due more
to incompetence than restrictions. Most webmasters
just don't know what they're doing and they're catering
more to phones. Webmasters also keep changing their
code, at a crazy rate. Very few commercial sites stay
stable for more than a couple of months at a time.
I visit BBC news and WashPo without script. But Boston
globe just recently broke and I have to view it with no
style because otherwise there's a menu covering 1/3 of
the page. TheRegister.co.uk is fine without script, though
recently it was broken. wired.com works fine... this month.
Atlantic Monthly looks great, though it used to have
headlines that ran together.... And so on.


would 52.9 install over top of 53.03 or do I have to go through all of
the backups of everything uninstall and reinstall and such? 53 was
working just fine.
  #35  
Old May 6th 19, 04:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

"Jess Fertudei" wrote

| would 52.9 install over top of 53.03 or do I have to go through all of
| the backups of everything uninstall and reinstall and such? 53 was
| working just fine.

In my experience the default is to leave the profile
folder, so you can just uninstall one and install the other.
I tried leaving 66 when I went back to 52.9, but 66 tried
to take over, so I just removed it and still have my settings.


  #36  
Old May 6th 19, 04:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired New version corrected problem

"Keith Nuttle" wrote

| The the bug in Firefox was corrected and 66.0.4 allowed ALL of my addons
| to be become active. This included Clippings Adblock, Google Translate
| and a half dozen other addons.
|
Good to know, but in the time I was using 66 I didn't
much like it compared to 52.9. I had to give up a lot
of extension functionality and didn't find any way to remove
tabs. There were also various minor irritations. For instance,
the update options no longer include not checking for
updates. And that was just with occasional use. I only
tried it on my test machine that I use on an occasional
basis.
The addons I use are mainly NoScript, DownloadHelper,
and various things for privacy and GUI repair. (Bringing
back the status bar, removing the tab bar, etc.) I have
a nice one called Secret Agent that offers lots of
privacy options but never came out as a signed version or
as a new-style crippled version. I think a lot of the
functionality in those older style extensions is just blocked
now in later versions.


  #37  
Old May 6th 19, 04:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen G. Holder
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

On Sun, 5 May 2019 23:01:51 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

In my experience the default is to leave the profile
folder, so you can just uninstall one and install the other.
I tried leaving 66 when I went back to 52.9, but 66 tried
to take over, so I just removed it and still have my settings.


*This is the umpteenth time I've seen Mayayana ignore obvious facts.*
o In doing so, he _consistently_ gives very bad (usually wrong) advice.

I've often seen Mayayana offer such advice where I have to wonder why he
consistently gives very bad advice, simply because he doesn't even _read_
or perhaps comprehend the facts in the very thread he's responding to

Why bother with older FF versions when I reported a while ago in this very
thread that the fix occurred something like a dozen hours ago?

This is a common trait of Mayayana to miss obvious facts, where it happens
so often that I have to wonder about his motives in giving such bad advice
to others when he is clearly ignorant of the facts in the very thread he's
posting to.

Sigh. You can't fix willful ignorance sometimes.
  #38  
Old May 6th 19, 04:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen G. Holder
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired New version corrected problem

On Sun, 5 May 2019 22:39:57 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

The the bug in Firefox was corrected and 66.0.4 allowed ALL of my addons
to be become active. This included Clippings Adblock, Google Translate
and a half dozen other addons.


Hi Keith,
I'm not sure why others haven't seen it, but I already reported on this fix
a while ago, over in this post to this very thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/YH8RMeKLVQg/Ws7miQKyAAAJ

Where there are still a couple of things open, such as
o Android (no mention of iOS either), and,
o Tor Browser Bundle

I provided in the alt.os.linux thread my results with Tor
and a few cites backing up the workaround for Tor Browsers over he
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Au1JwnKCz5c/fB6yrKtLBAAJ

And here...
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/Au1JwnKCz5c/RB-pphlNBAAJ

The key technical question that I'm wondering about is how insecure did
this problem make Tor Browsing for the past few days for the millions of
people who aren't as well informed as we are on this problem (and who
therefore were clueless while they were browsing with the TBB this
weekend).

Does anyone have an idea of how this affected Tor Browsers' privacy?
  #39  
Old May 6th 19, 04:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

In article , Arlen G. Holder
wrote:

Sigh. You can't fix willful ignorance sometimes.


something you demonstrate time and time again.
  #40  
Old May 6th 19, 06:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
T
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

On 5/3/19 10:32 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired
https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/03/firefox-extension-add-on-cert/

The event occurred as the clock rolled over on UTC (Coordinated Universal
Time, aka GMT or Greenwich Mean Time), and impacted users quickly narrowed
it down to "expiration of intermediate signing cert" -- as it's described
on Mozilla's bug tracker.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548973




Whilst we all (im)patiently wait for Firefox to rush out
a patch, install Brave from http://brave.com. It is very
fast and has built in ad blocking. On first run it will
give you a shot at importing all your settings from a
browser of your choice (pick Firefox).


  #41  
Old May 6th 19, 07:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen G. Holder
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

On Sun, 05 May 2019 23:48:12 -0400, nospam wrote:

something you demonstrate time and time again.


Someday nospam, you're not going to post your drivel which is that of a child
o Apparently not today though.
  #42  
Old May 6th 19, 07:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen G. Holder
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

On Sun, 5 May 2019 22:15:17 -0700, T wrote:

Whilst we all (im)patiently wait for Firefox to rush out
a patch,


It's already long ago fixed on all but Android & the Tor Browser.
o No word on iOS though (AFAIK)
  #43  
Old May 6th 19, 10:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

In message , Jess
Fertudei writes:
[]
v53 on Win7

I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF (telling
it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last session,
and...
Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
is disabled.
Any other sure fixes on this deal, yet?


Apparently they have done a proper fix now, for those on the bleeding
edge.

Wonder if they'll ever do anything for the old versions?


FWIW, I'm not aware that my 27.0.1 ever stopped working over the last
few days, which is when I assume this hiccup happened - and I'm not
aware of any of my addons not working, either: certainly not tab mix
plus, downloadhelper, adblock plus (though like mayayana I use a hosts
file for most of my adblocking), and several others.

Interesting that just last weekend, my various newspapers all started
to not work unless I disabled adblock (which I did not do) at the very
same moment. It had to be contrived among the competitors... no way
just dumb luck. If FF has been lying about the no update switch, how am
I to believe that they're trashing of adblocks doesn't have too much
coincidence to follow days behind.


Again like Mayayana, I find View | No Style is needed more and more
these days. Mainly to stop popovers covering the viewing window from top
_and_ bottom; I wish page designers would realise we don't all run our
browsers full screen, let alone on the 3k-pixels-wide systems they
obviously design on. (And of course another of my bugbears - they also
design for fixed width, so horizontal scrolling is something we have to
do all the time now. HTML is not PDF!)

I am new to tinfoil, well, except the google colored stuff, so I don't
know what to think here.
Just finally got a new ssd in the mail yesterday, but there's no way I
want to clone the mess that is FF right now.

[]
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What's awful about weird views is not the views. It's the intolerance. If
someone wants to worship the Duke of Edinburgh or a pineapple, fine. But don't
kill me if I don't agree. - Tim Rice, Radio Times 15-21 October 2011.
  #44  
Old May 6th 19, 10:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired

On 5/5/19 11:28 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On Sun, 5 May 2019 22:15:17 -0700, T wrote:

Whilst we all (im)patiently wait for Firefox to rush out
a patch,


It's already long ago fixed on all but Android & the Tor Browser.
o No word on iOS though (AFAIK)


I am on 66.0.3 for Linux and have not noticed a problem.

I got an eMail today from a customer that suddenly started
getting inundated with adds (uBlock Orgin stopped working).
I told him to go to help and look for an update
  #45  
Old May 6th 19, 02:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Keith Nuttle
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Default Firefox disabled all add-ons because a certificate expired Newversion corrected problem

On 5/5/2019 10:56 PM, Jess Fertudei wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote on 5/5/2019 :
On 5/5/2019 10:33 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Jess Fertudei" wrote

| v53 on Win7
|
| I just finally got sick of waiting and did the
| xpinstall.signatures.required false. Closed the tab, closed FF
(telling
| it ok to multiple tabs). Opened again and did the restore last
session,
| and...
| Nothing. Didn't help a bit. Adblock still a no go and even my setpoint
| is disabled.

Â* I'm using 52.9, the last version that works on XP.
I also put it on Win7-64. Works fine. Fully-functioning,
pre-crippled extensions work fine. With that setting
they just show a warning that they might be risky
when opening the add-ons window.
Â*Â* Since you only have 1 point newer anyway, you
might want to just go back to 52.9. That number might
seem old, but it's less than a year old and as far as
I can tell, things have only got worse since then. I
wa using 66 for awhile, out of curiosity, but it had
less settings control than ever without actually
working better.

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Â*Â* Adblockers: Have you considered a HOSTS file? I use
a HOSTS that blocks the major ad companies and
trackers. I haven't seen ad for years, but I've never
used an adblocker.
Â*Â* Also, if a site works without script then there's no way
for them to test for adblockers. Though some sites
malfunction without script and I have to view them with
no style.

Â*Â* Unfortunately, a lot of the problems are due more
to incompetence than restrictions. Most webmasters
just don't know what they're doing and they're catering
more to phones. Webmasters also keep changing their
code, at a crazy rate. Very few commercial sites stay
stable for more than a couple of months at a time.
I visit BBC news and WashPo without script. But Boston
globe just recently broke and I have to view it with no
style because otherwise there's a menu covering 1/3 of
the page. TheRegister.co.uk is fine without script, though
recently it was broken. wired.com works fine... this month.
Atlantic Monthly looks great, though it used to have
headlines that ran together.... And so on.


The the bug in Firefox was corrected and 66.0.4 allowed ALL of my
addons to be become active.Â* This included Clippings Adblock, Google
Translate and a half dozen other addons.


Why would I want to install 66 when it is crippled compared to 53?
Really wondering if I can even trust Mozilla at all, anymore...

Because it is the latest version with all of the known security holes
fixed. Most of the common addons now work with FF version 66.0.4.

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