Turn off data and only leave power on USB port?

In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:50:26 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/10/20 1:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

usb negotiates power over the data lines, so such devices will not
properly work with usb compliant devices.

I don't think many devices use that. I own about one.

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

That's ridiculous. All but one of my devices take as much power as they want, presumably limited by the power supply by the voltage falling a bit when they try to take too much. One of my devices only takes 500mA from a 1A supply, but 2A from a 2A supply. So either it's being OCD and wants some handshaking first, or it doesn't have a 1A mode. Pretty annoying as it consumes 500mA when running, and you can't charge it without it turning on the display to tell you it's charging, so on a 1A supply, the battery doesn't charge, it uses all the power it takes to tell me it's charging.

On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:08:15 +0100, nospam wrote:

In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

This all seems overly complicated. Why can't devices just take what they want, and USB ports could just be current limited? Try to take 1A from a 500mA port and the voltage falls.

On 8/11/20 12:08 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"It has been discovered that the man who was lost in thought was not a
church member." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 03:06:05 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/11/20 12:08 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

I'm going to guess Apple....

In article op.0o8x1qitwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

I'm going to guess Apple....

you'd be wrong. apple is fully usb compliant, and *any* usb compliant
charger will work.

On 8/12/20 12:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 03:06:05 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/11/20 12:08 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

I'm going to guess Apple....

I've never had an Apple phone. I remember LG and Samsung.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"God's name is not considered good at the banks." [Lemuel K. Washburn,
_Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays_, 1911]

On 2020-08-12 12:14 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article op.0o8x1qitwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

I'm going to guess Apple....

you'd be wrong. apple is fully usb compliant, and *any* usb compliant
charger will work.


I ate an apple yesterday, it wasn't a Macintosh, it was a red delicious.
:-)

Rene

On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:24:32 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/12/20 12:11 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 03:06:05 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/11/20 12:08 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I used to have a phone that wouldn't charge using a normal USB cable,
only a "charge only" cable.

that's very broken.

I think they were trying to make people use a proprietary charger with
preattached cable. I forgot what brand this was. The phone I have now
doesn't have that problem.

I'm going to guess Apple....

I've never had an Apple phone. I remember LG and Samsung.

Try VKWorld. A quarter of the price of Samsung with the same specs. Samsung is now overpriced like Apple.

In article op.0o9gousawdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:


Try VKWorld. A quarter of the price of Samsung with the same specs.
Samsung is now overpriced like Apple.

not the same specs.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 02:20:07 +0100, Snit wrote:

On 7/28/20 4:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 22:18:55 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On 7/28/20 2:15 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:58:55 +0100, Snit
wrote:

wasbit wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
newsp.0nuz31pgwdg98l@glass...
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:06:45 +0100, wasbit
wrote:

On 7/13/20 9:25 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
How do I make a USB port in Windows 10 just provide power and
not a
data connection? For example my satnav has a low battery and I
just
want to use it indoors. But when it sees the PC, it just
becomes a
removable drive and I can't use it.


Sorry, missed the OP

DIY Perks explains the difference between a host & sub modes,
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1UPoYSAow

Er.... that's a video about electric bikes.


Nope. It's about adding an external LED light to a smart phone using
the USB
port for power.

Dunno what you were watching.


That’s what I saw, too.

YouTube is getting sorta insane with ads these days — maybe he saw
an ad
and got confused?

Yip, I did. I've added loads of ad blockers and none worked. But the
last one is meant to according to a friend - "Enhancer for Youtube" - be
sure to turn on the extra function to get round Youtube's new ad ****..

What one?

What are you asking?

I was thinking something that was incorrect... and as such my question
did not make much sense. Sorry 'bout that.

Seems "Enhancer for YouTube" is not available (yet) for Safari.

Safari still exists? I thought that was the Apple freebie they gave away a decade or two ago.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 11:07:27 +0100, Chris Elvidge wrote:

On 29/07/2020 12:50 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less".

Plonker!

OCD!

On Aug 14, 2020 at 1:30:29 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:





Yip, I did. I've added loads of ad blockers and none worked. But the
last one is meant to according to a friend - "Enhancer for Youtube" - be
sure to turn on the extra function to get round Youtube's new ad ****..

What one?

What are you asking?

I was thinking something that was incorrect... and as such my question
did not make much sense. Sorry 'bout that.

Seems "Enhancer for YouTube" is not available (yet) for Safari.

Safari still exists? I thought that was the Apple freebie they gave away a
decade or two ago.


It no longer exist for Windows, but is the primary browser on macOS. It works
well there -- some sites work better with Chrome, but for most it is faster
and uses less memory. It does not have many extensions -- though Apple has
said they will support a more popular method Chrome uses so they will get a
lot more soon.

It is more focused on privacy and security than is Chrome, which is nice.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 21:34:57 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Aug 14, 2020 at 1:30:29 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:





Yip, I did. I've added loads of ad blockers and none worked. But the
last one is meant to according to a friend - "Enhancer for Youtube" - be
sure to turn on the extra function to get round Youtube's new ad ****..

What one?

What are you asking?

I was thinking something that was incorrect... and as such my question
did not make much sense. Sorry 'bout that.

Seems "Enhancer for YouTube" is not available (yet) for Safari.

Safari still exists? I thought that was the Apple freebie they gave away a
decade or two ago.


It no longer exist for Windows, but is the primary browser on macOS. It works
well there -- some sites work better with Chrome, but for most it is faster
and uses less memory. It does not have many extensions -- though Apple has
said they will support a more popular method Chrome uses so they will get a
lot more soon.

It is more focused on privacy and security than is Chrome, which is nice.

I couldn't use a browser with less extensions available, just as I couldn't use an OS with less programs available.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:59:28 +0100, FromTheRafters wrote:

Snit expressed precisely :
On 7/28/20 4:50 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[...]

ARGH! I hate the word fewer. It has no different meaning than "less".

Do you hate the word less fewer than you do the word less?

I think fewer is a proper subset of a countable set, and less is a
proper subset of an uncountable set. How many fewer or how much less is
up to the reader.

I see no reason to distinguish the two. You had some stuff, now some's gone. The amount is lower than what it used to be.