About cutting down on all the startup junk at boot

Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram

I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
where I've placed a few things.

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.

I'm running the full compliment of adobe tools from the new cloud
setup, which probably accounts for quite a few things... but probably
1/2 of those don't really need to be on auto start either.

Anyway, what I'd like is some pointers to an authoritative list or
source information about which things are really necessary (I don't
necessarily mean adobe stuff). And which things should just be left
alone.

I guess some of it would be personal preferences but there must be
lots of stuff that is known not to be essential.

I've found a few such sources on the net but they are pretty old and
in reference to winXP more than win7.

So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?

On 02/16/2014 11:05 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram

I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
where I've placed a few things.

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.



If your applications were properly written, there will be nothing left
in startup after an uninstall.


If you want to run msconfig and see if there are any unnecessary
applications in startup that's up to you of course.

Sysinternals.com
Download Autoruns. That allows you to
disable boot items easily. You'll probably find
lots of printer applets, quickstarter junk, etc.
that can be disabled. There isn't really a
master list. You just have to figure out what
things are and whether you need them. In
general there's no need for more than a small
handful of programs to be starting at boot
(from either a Registry Run key or Start Menu
Startup folder.) I only have two: My firewall and
my mouse software.

Similarly, you can go through the running
services. Many of the defaults are unsafe and/or
unnecessary. But some are critical. You have
to do a little research. A wrote a utility to help
with that in XP:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/xpfix.php5#who1

But Win7 is far more bloated, with a lot more
services. If you want to look into it, look up
"black viper". That's someone who has written
exhaustive help files on Windows services in the
past. I don't know if he's still around.



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| Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram
|
| I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
| starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
| where I've placed a few things.
|
| But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
| of different software.
|
| I'm running the full compliment of adobe tools from the new cloud
| setup, which probably accounts for quite a few things... but probably
| 1/2 of those don't really need to be on auto start either.
|
| Anyway, what I'd like is some pointers to an authoritative list or
| source information about which things are really necessary (I don't
| necessarily mean adobe stuff). And which things should just be left
| alone.
|
| I guess some of it would be personal preferences but there must be
| lots of stuff that is known not to be essential.
|
| I've found a few such sources on the net but they are pretty old and
| in reference to winXP more than win7.
|
| So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
| kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?

On 2014-02-16, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:05:40 -0500, Harry Putnam

SNIP


So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?

I don't know of any list, but you do have to be careful with utilities
that came with the computer. Example, Toshiba netbook. One of the auto
run utilities controlled the Function Key. Toshiba had a lot of utilities
and it took time to find the correct one to get the Fn key back. I would
stay with msconfig and disable one at a time. Autoruns can get you in
deep trouble if you don't know what you are doing.

Yeah, ticking and unticking a box.
If you deselect MS programs, and leave the AV alone, you'll be OK.
Tick/unTick away.


One place to start with Services is the Black Viper site.




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On 16/02/2014 17:05:40, Harry Putnam wrote:
Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram

I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
where I've placed a few things.

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.

I'm running the full compliment of adobe tools from the new cloud
setup, which probably accounts for quite a few things... but probably
1/2 of those don't really need to be on auto start either.

Anyway, what I'd like is some pointers to an authoritative list or
source information about which things are really necessary (I don't
necessarily mean adobe stuff). And which things should just be left
alone.

I guess some of it would be personal preferences but there must be
lots of stuff that is known not to be essential.

I've found a few such sources on the net but they are pretty old and
in reference to winXP more than win7.

So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?

Download and install ccleaner
http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner

Look in the Tools/Startup tab to see what is running.
If you are unsure what to disable in the list you can save the list as
a text file. Copy and paste the list to a post here and I am sure you
will get more help

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mick

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:19:22 -0600, philo* wrote:
On 02/16/2014 11:05 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.

If your applications were properly written, there will be nothing left
in startup after an uninstall.

Exactly -- "if"!



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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:07:08 +0000 (UTC), Paladin wrote:
On 2014-02-16, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:05:40 -0500, Harry Putnam

SNIP

[quoted text muted]
run utilities controlled the Function Key. Toshiba had a lot of utilities
and it took time to find the correct one to get the Fn key back. I would
stay with msconfig and disable one at a time. Autoruns can get you in
deep trouble if you don't know what you are doing.

Yeah, ticking and unticking a box.
If you deselect MS programs, and leave the AV alone, you'll be OK.

That is horribly bad advice. I find it difficult to believe that it's
an innocent mistake.

It is true that _some_ Microsoft services are unnecessary, but many
are essential to the functioning of the Windows computer.



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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On 2014-02-16, Stan Brown wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:07:08 +0000 (UTC), Paladin wrote:
On 2014-02-16, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:05:40 -0500, Harry Putnam

SNIP

[quoted text muted]
run utilities controlled the Function Key. Toshiba had a lot of utilities
and it took time to find the correct one to get the Fn key back. I would
stay with msconfig and disable one at a time. Autoruns can get you in
deep trouble if you don't know what you are doing.

Yeah, ticking and unticking a box.
If you deselect MS programs, and leave the AV alone, you'll be OK.

That is horribly bad advice. I find it difficult to believe that it's
an innocent mistake.

It is true that _some_ Microsoft services are unnecessary, but many
are essential to the functioning of the Windows computer.


I said deselect MS programs in Autoruns.
It is an option in *that* program, had you been familiar with it.
I said nothing of MS *services*.

Learn to read, before commenting about horrible advice.

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Many people are desperately looking for some wise advice which will
recommend that they do what they want to do.

Harry Putnam wrote:
Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram

I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
where I've placed a few things.

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.

I'm running the full compliment of adobe tools from the new cloud
setup, which probably accounts for quite a few things... but probably
1/2 of those don't really need to be on auto start either.

Anyway, what I'd like is some pointers to an authoritative list or
source information about which things are really necessary (I don't
necessarily mean adobe stuff). And which things should just be left
alone.

I guess some of it would be personal preferences but there must be
lots of stuff that is known not to be essential.

I've found a few such sources on the net but they are pretty old and
in reference to winXP more than win7.

So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?


Try a couple of these;
http://en.softonic.com/s/decrapify
The ones I've tried have an option to run and inform; and leave it up to
you whether you go on to uninstall any item.

Ed

On 2014-02-16, John wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:42:25 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"black viper"


It looks like he is still around and doing good stuff with W8, Win7
and W8-one.
http://www.balckviper.com or

http://www.blackviper.com/service-co...onfigurations/
for Win7 specific stuff.
Looks very good.
J.

Awesome, when thinking for ones self is out of the question.
Trail and error


--
Many people are desperately looking for some wise advice which will
recommend that they do what they want to do.

Harry Putnam wrote:

Setup: Win7 running on Sager NP8760 older i7 M820 cpu - 8GB ram

I'd like to take a stab at cutting back on all the stuff windows
starts running on bootup. I don't mean stuff in the Startup folder
where I've placed a few things.

But all the junk that accumulates after many installs and uninstalls
of different software.

I'm running the full compliment of adobe tools from the new cloud
setup, which probably accounts for quite a few things... but probably
1/2 of those don't really need to be on auto start either.

Anyway, what I'd like is some pointers to an authoritative list or
source information about which things are really necessary (I don't
necessarily mean adobe stuff). And which things should just be left
alone.

I guess some of it would be personal preferences but there must be
lots of stuff that is known not to be essential.

I've found a few such sources on the net but they are pretty old and
in reference to winXP more than win7.

So, can anyone steer me to some kind of authoritative source for that
kind of information regarding windows 7 with full updates?

WinPatrol is a handy utility for examining and controlling startup
items;

http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html

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Sir_George

On 2/16/2014, Stan Brown posted:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:07:08 +0000 (UTC), Paladin wrote:
On 2014-02-16, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:05:40 -0500, Harry Putnam


SNIP

[quoted text muted]
run utilities controlled the Function Key. Toshiba had a lot of
utilities and it took time to find the correct one to get the Fn
key back. I would stay with msconfig and disable one at a time.
Autoruns can get you in deep trouble if you don't know what you are
doing.

Yeah, ticking and unticking a box.
If you deselect MS programs, and leave the AV alone, you'll be OK.

That is horribly bad advice. I find it difficult to believe that it's
an innocent mistake.

Likewise...

It is true that _some_ Microsoft services are unnecessary, but many
are essential to the functioning of the Windows computer.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)