In with the wanted, out with the for PAY

installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

..ZIP does not appear in the association list.

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.

In article ,
says...

installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

.ZIP does not appear in the association list.

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.

Right click on a zip file and select Open With, you might need to use
Space-Right Click instead.

That gives you option to select another program to open the file and to
also make that the permanent program to open that filetype.

pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...

installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

.ZIP does not appear in the association list.

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.

Right click on a zip file and select Open With, you might need to use
Space-Right Click instead.

That gives you option to select another program to open the file and to
also make that the permanent program to open that filetype.


Or just run 7-zip and from the menu Tools Options System Associate
7-zip with: click on extensions to toggle association to 7-zip

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On 13 Nov 2017, Puddintane wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Do you always blame someone else for your own ignorance?

Your question has been accurately answered elsewhere. There's also this
marvelous new invention called "Google". Comes in handy sometimes and
can help make it look like you know what you're talking about.

"Puddintane" wrote

| installed 7-Zip
|
Side note: Filzip is also free and similar to WinZip.
7-Zip is very good, but the UI is not. I find it easier
to use Filzip for most things and then just open
7-Zip when I have to deal with something exotic.

On 13/11/2017 19:19, Puddintane wrote:


M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.


If you want a solution then please repost your problem without those two
lines. You look complete idiot by blaming Microsoft when your level of
intelligence is below par. Your IQ must be very small like your penis.

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On 11/13/2017 2:42 PM, pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...

installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

.ZIP does not appear in the association list.

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.

Right click on a zip file and select Open With, you might need to use
Space-Right Click instead.

That gives you option to select another program to open the file and to
also make that the permanent program to open that filetype.

If you are not planning on doing any thing complex and are looking for a
quick way to zip files for archival purposes, why don't you use the
native ability of Windows to create zipfiles.

It is quite easy, highlite the file, or files that you want to zip,
right click and select Send To and then Compressed Zip folder.

The zip file opens like any folder so files can be copy to and from like
any other folder.


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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/13/2017 2:42 PM, pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...

installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

.ZIP does not appear in the association list.

M$ is cahoots with Win$ip.

Baby steps please. I am old.

Right click on a zip file and select Open With, you might need to use
Space-Right Click instead.

That gives you option to select another program to open the file and to
also make that the permanent program to open that filetype.

If you are not planning on doing any thing complex and are looking for a
quick way to zip files for archival purposes, why don't you use the
native ability of Windows to create zipfiles.

It is quite easy, highlite the file, or files that you want to zip,
right click and select Send To and then Compressed Zip folder.

The zip file opens like any folder so files can be copy to and from like
any other folder.

That ignores the fact, that file compression comes in
"classes of goodness".

I can make up three classes for example:

lzo/lz4 - fast, but doesn't do much compression.
- doesn't save much disk space
- what your backup software uses

GZIP/WinZIP - intermediate goodness
- better than the previous compressors
- implementations such as PIGZ, support
multi-core compression, others, do not
- one of the better space/time trade-offs
(run your own benches and see...)

7Z, RAR - the best compressors
- when you need to save maximum space
- very slow
- compressors almost always support multiple cores,
to improve the pathetically slow compression rate.
- large dictionaries are used, like 600MB per thread
A 12 thread machine needs 7.2GB of RAM. Selecting
24 threads of compression ("over-subscribing" for
Win10 max speed), needs 14.4GB of RAM. If you had
a 64-thread Epyc, you'd need a lot of RAM (ultra
compression option).
- uses a palpable amount of electricity. Costs a dollar
to compress a terabyte sized hard drive. Hot air will
come out of the computer cooling vent.

By recommending "only" a Windows compressor, you're shutting
yourself out from a wider world. There is a compressor
available for every conceivable job. I've even written
my own specialized one (runs at 300MB/sec, but you would
not be impressed once you understood what it does).

Note that hardly any programs support multi-threading
on decompression. And as a consequence, decompression
can be a rate-limiting step, even though normally the
compression effort takes a *lot* more CPU. The authors
of these works, are not willing to address this issue.

Paul

Mayayana wrote:
"Puddintane" wrote

| installed 7-Zip
|
Side note: Filzip is also free and similar to WinZip.
7-Zip is very good, but the UI is not. I find it easier
to use Filzip for most things and then just open
7-Zip when I have to deal with something exotic.

7zip is the *very first program I install in a clean OS*.

It is a Swiss Army knife.

And yes, his betas are "excellent quality". You can
tell he tests his stuff.

http://7-zip.org/

You can even burrow into a .img made from a hard
drive, and traverse into an NTFS partition, without
Windows playing any part in it. And extract files
from the drive image. It's that good. It has that
varied a skill set. It can also handle a .wim file,
but only the version Microsoft chose to fully document.
Microsoft decided to play some games with wim and esd
after that, and Igor as a result, cannot write tools
for those.

The only class that 7-ZIP doesn't handle, is "packers".
There's no ability to unpack UPX in a downloaded EXE.
Or bust into an Installshield-protected cab file. The
tool doesn't handle those. There are 20 or 30 packer
formats, and that's a reason why 7-ZIP doesn't have them.
It would be a huge pile of code, and there may not be
sufficient documentation to write a decoder from scratch.

And the best part is, it's free, for both compression
and decompression. RAR is free for decompression, but
will likely cost you, for compression in the RAR format.

Paul

"Paul" wrote

| 7zip is the *very first program I install in a clean OS*.
|
| It is a Swiss Army knife.
|

Yes, it's very good. And the UI is a mess. It doesn't
even support drag-drop. The menus are not intuitive.
And he tries to support things he can't suport, like
MSI, DOC and other compund storage file types.

I use it to open help files. I use it to open
unusual types. But for ZIP I find it clunky and not
worth the trouble. There isn't even a menu item
to create a new ZIP. There's create new file, which
creates a 0-byte file with no extension?!

Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| 7zip is the *very first program I install in a clean OS*.
|
| It is a Swiss Army knife.
|

Yes, it's very good. And the UI is a mess. It doesn't
even support drag-drop. The menus are not intuitive.
And he tries to support things he can't suport, like
MSI, DOC and other compund storage file types.

I use it to open help files. I use it to open
unusual types. But for ZIP I find it clunky and not
worth the trouble. There isn't even a menu item
to create a new ZIP. There's create new file, which
creates a 0-byte file with no extension?!

Yes, it has a learning curve.

I don't consider the built-in ZIP support in Windows
to be all that wonderful. You can never tell where
you are in there. Like when a search used to find
something inside a ZIP, and it would only display
the path portion inside the ZIP and not the path
portion in the file system. It's pretty hard
to make a "looks like File Explorer" way of
dealing with compressed files. The UI is guaranteed
to suck.

Paul

"Paul" wrote

| I don't consider the built-in ZIP support in Windows
| to be all that wonderful. You can never tell where
| you are in there.

Yes. I think that attempt at convenience may be
the biggest obstacle of all for new people. They open
a file in a ZIP and don't realize that all the other files
are actually inside an archive. Then it's confusing if
they want to save changes. It's so hard to explain
that to people when they get dependency errors in
EXEs, missing images, etc. I try to give people Filzip
so that Windows won't get involved.

For years I used Power Archiver, which was designed
to mimic WinZip, but later PA went to a for-pay version
with a relatively steep price. And on newer systems
the older, free PA sometimes acts up. But the older,
free version has one nice feature that I keep it for:
The icon for SFX is stored in the program folder, in
an SFXS subfolder. The file parcse.dat is the icon for
SFX. Which means that one can create or choose
one's own icon for self-executing ZIP files. And PA
has no trouble that I've seen creating those on newer
systems.

On 14/11/2017 3:19 AM, Puddintane wrote:
installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

First procedure to try: Uninstall both WinZIP and 7-zip. Re-install 7-zip.

If that didn't fix it, right click 7-zip to run it as Administrator, go
to Tools-Options.

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On 14/11/2017 10:11 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 14/11/2017 3:19 AM, Puddintane wrote:
installed 7-Zip

WinZip still the default for .ZIP

Uninstalled WinZip when it started begging !!!

Now how to associate .ZIP with 7-Zip ?

First procedure to try: Uninstall both WinZIP and 7-zip. Re-install 7-zip.

If that didn't fix it, right click 7-zip to run it as Administrator, go
to Tools-Options.


One thing to remind you: I think starting with Win 7 (not sure), Window$
could directly open ZIP file as a folder.

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On 13 Nov 2017, "Mayayana" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Yes, it's very good. And the UI is a mess. It doesn't
even support drag-drop.

Not true. You can add files to an archive by dropping them onto the 7-
Zip interface. And you can extract files from an archive by dragging
them from the interface to any location in File Explorer.

The menus are not intuitive.

You've got a point there!

There isn't even a menu item
to create a new ZIP. There's create new file, which
creates a 0-byte file with no extension?!

The Create archive choices are in the File Explorer right-click context
menus.