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  #1  
Old December 8th 17, 07:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Cows are nice
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Default Windows for Submarines

“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n

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  #2  
Old December 8th 17, 07:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”
. ....
"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"
....


I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using
devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there
are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and
vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$.

Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no
Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use
plain text or HTML documents?

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  #3  
Old December 8th 17, 03:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 01:35 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”
. ....
"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"
....


I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using
devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there
are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and
vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$.

Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no
Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use
plain text or HTML documents?

Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office
documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't
translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one
so far has not been readable and look right.

  #4  
Old December 8th 17, 04:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 8/12/2017 11:06 PM, Wolf K wrote:

That's the only reason I have Libre Office. Otherwise it's as unusable
as Microsoft Office. But WordPerfect can Save As *.doc, and any
printable file can "print to PDF", so I no longer worry about
compatibility.


The PDF output also allows you to print to modern printers, especially
if you were talking about WordPerfect for DOS.

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/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
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Old December 8th 17, 04:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 8/12/2017 10:50 PM, Big Al wrote:

Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office
documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't
translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one
so far has not been readable and look right.


Most big companies and students are using Micro$oft Office. It's a
de-facto standard, impossible to escape from.

--
@~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!!
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
  #6  
Old December 8th 17, 04:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
philo
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n




Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.
  #7  
Old December 8th 17, 04:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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Default Windows for Submarines

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:50:57 -0500, Big Al wrote:

On 12/08/2017 01:35 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote:
Windows for Submarines is said to be powering these submarines because
it was cheaper than the alternatives
. ....
"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"
....


I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using
devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there
are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and
vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$.

Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no
Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use
plain text or HTML documents?

Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office
documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't
translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one
so far has not been readable and look right.


LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature
encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are
ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using
LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it.
Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so
their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load
incorrectly in the free software product.
  #8  
Old December 8th 17, 04:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows for Submarines

Cows are nice wrote:

“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines
because “it was cheaper than the alternatives

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n


Back in the mid-90's, when Win95 and NT4 were new, my ship was using Windows
3.x to monitor the system that shared our radar data out to other units. Just
sayin'. (We were also using a *nix system for our main data-sharing system.)

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I did not say it was a stupid idea, but the strategic advantage of
equipping infantry with scary hand puppets is lost on me.
  #9  
Old December 8th 17, 04:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature
encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are
ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using
LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it.
Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so
their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load
incorrectly in the free software product.


It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic
stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft
Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to
build malwares.

--
@~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!!
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
  #10  
Old December 8th 17, 04:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows for Submarines

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”
. ....
"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"
....


I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using
devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there
are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and
vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$.

Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no
Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use
plain text or HTML documents?


There are some universities, where the students all
have Apple Macbooks. There's really no way to predict
what product they'll be using. On some others, they
have Chromebooks, and could be using web tools for
programming.

And you wouldn't have a very good CS degree, if you
weren't taught to adapt to whatever platform was
needed for the job.

Weapons systems are programmed in ADA, a language
nobody uses. This means, when you leave your university,
you're basically useless for this work :-) The language
is similar to Pascal in some ways (strict typing).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)

"In the 1970s, the US Department of Defense (DoD) was
concerned by the number of different programming
languages being used for its embedded computer
system projects, many of which were obsolete or
hardware-dependent, and none of which supported
safe modular programming.

After many iterations beginning with an original
Straw man proposal the eventual programming language
was named Ada.

The total number of high-level programming languages
in use for such projects fell from over 450 in 1983
to 37 by 1996."

Paul
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Old December 8th 17, 06:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows for Submarines

philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n




Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.


I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog
wrenches.

  #12  
Old December 9th 17, 04:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 07:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature
encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are
ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using
LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it.
Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so
their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load
incorrectly in the free software product.


It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic
stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft
Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to
build malwares.


I have never used M$O (M$ Office). Libre Office (LO) works perfectly
for me, including the odd DOCX and XLSX I get sent. LO's pdf
export is wonderful. LO can't print an envelope for its life.
  #13  
Old December 9th 17, 04:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 09:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n




Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.


I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog
wrenches.


My hat is off to you. I would have gone crazy with claustrophobia.
I heard the food was pretty good though.
  #14  
Old December 9th 17, 04:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 07:17 AM, philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n




Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.


Chuckle.

Computers are like air conditioners.
They malfunction when you open windows.

Windows on a sub is really a bad choice. Space
craft as well.

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Old December 9th 17, 06:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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Default Windows for Submarines

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 19:47:29 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/08/2017 07:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature
encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are
ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using
LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it.
Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so
their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load
incorrectly in the free software product.


It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic
stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft
Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to
build malwares.


I have never used M$O (M$ Office). Libre Office (LO) works perfectly
for me, including the odd DOCX and XLSX I get sent. LO's pdf
export is wonderful. LO can't print an envelope for its life.


I never use the extended features of Microsoft Office either so
LibreOffice is truly more than enough for me as well. However, I hate
using it in Windows. Using it in Linux, however, is stellar. It feels
a lot lighter.
 




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