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Windows for Submarines
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives” http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n -- ˙puɐsnoɥʇ ɐ ʇsuᴉɐƃɐ ǝǝɹɥʇ 'ǝɹǝʍ ǝʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ oS |
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On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” . .... "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" .... I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$. Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use plain text or HTML documents? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Windows for Submarines
On 12/08/2017 01:35 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote: “Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” . .... "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" .... I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$. Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use plain text or HTML documents? Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one so far has not been readable and look right. |
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On 8/12/2017 11:06 PM, Wolf K wrote:
That's the only reason I have Libre Office. Otherwise it's as unusable as Microsoft Office. But WordPerfect can Save As *.doc, and any printable file can "print to PDF", so I no longer worry about compatibility. The PDF output also allows you to print to modern printers, especially if you were talking about WordPerfect for DOS. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On 8/12/2017 10:50 PM, Big Al wrote:
Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one so far has not been readable and look right. Most big companies and students are using Micro$oft Office. It's a de-facto standard, impossible to escape from. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Windows for Submarines
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they keep them closed. |
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:50:57 -0500, Big Al wrote:
On 12/08/2017 01:35 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote: Windows for Submarines is said to be powering these submarines because it was cheaper than the alternatives . .... "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" .... I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$. Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use plain text or HTML documents? Linux has Libre office which is a very compatible with MS Office documents. Maybe some very very high end features in Office don't translate well to Libre, but from the many docs I get on Linux, not one so far has not been readable and look right. LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it. Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load incorrectly in the free software product. |
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Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n Back in the mid-90's, when Win95 and NT4 were new, my ship was using Windows 3.x to monitor the system that shared our radar data out to other units. Just sayin'. (We were also using a *nix system for our main data-sharing system.) -- I did not say it was a stupid idea, but the strategic advantage of equipping infantry with scary hand puppets is lost on me. |
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On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it. Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load incorrectly in the free software product. It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to build malwares. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 12/8/2017 2:31 PM, Cows are nice wrote: “Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” . .... "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" .... I believe weapon systems as well as the nuclear reactors should be using devices unrelated to desktop computing. The real reason should be there are more Window$ programmers in the market and that universities and vocational schools are also teaching more and more about Window$. Linux and Unix engineers need special training courses. And there is no Micro$oft Office for inux and Unix... yet. BUT, couldn't you just use plain text or HTML documents? There are some universities, where the students all have Apple Macbooks. There's really no way to predict what product they'll be using. On some others, they have Chromebooks, and could be using web tools for programming. And you wouldn't have a very good CS degree, if you weren't taught to adapt to whatever platform was needed for the job. Weapons systems are programmed in ADA, a language nobody uses. This means, when you leave your university, you're basically useless for this work :-) The language is similar to Pascal in some ways (strict typing). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language) "In the 1970s, the US Department of Defense (DoD) was concerned by the number of different programming languages being used for its embedded computer system projects, many of which were obsolete or hardware-dependent, and none of which supported safe modular programming. After many iterations beginning with an original Straw man proposal the eventual programming language was named Ada. The total number of high-level programming languages in use for such projects fell from over 450 in 1983 to 37 by 1996." Paul |
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Windows for Submarines
philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote: “Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they keep them closed. I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog wrenches. |
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Windows for Submarines
On 12/08/2017 07:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote: LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it. Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load incorrectly in the free software product. It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to build malwares. I have never used M$O (M$ Office). Libre Office (LO) works perfectly for me, including the odd DOCX and XLSX I get sent. LO's pdf export is wonderful. LO can't print an envelope for its life. |
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On 12/08/2017 09:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
philo wrote: On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote: “Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they keep them closed. I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog wrenches. My hat is off to you. I would have gone crazy with claustrophobia. I heard the food was pretty good though. |
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Windows for Submarines
On 12/08/2017 07:17 AM, philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote: “Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because “it was cheaper than the alternatives” http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp- based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6 "Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need help?" http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they keep them closed. Chuckle. Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows. Windows on a sub is really a bad choice. Space craft as well. |
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 19:47:29 -0800, T wrote:
On 12/08/2017 07:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote: LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it. Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load incorrectly in the free software product. It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to build malwares. I have never used M$O (M$ Office). Libre Office (LO) works perfectly for me, including the odd DOCX and XLSX I get sent. LO's pdf export is wonderful. LO can't print an envelope for its life. I never use the extended features of Microsoft Office either so LibreOffice is truly more than enough for me as well. However, I hate using it in Windows. Using it in Linux, however, is stellar. It feels a lot lighter. |
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