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  #46  
Old January 8th 10, 05:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
John John - MVP[_2_]
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Posts: 1,637
Default Registry cleaner ?


Steve Hayes wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:22:54 -0400, John John - MVP
wrote:

Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they cause
more harm than good.
Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a small
group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program, just
source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are nowhere
to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it comes to posts
about registry cleaners you have a case of selected blindness, and when
you do reply to posts you usually leave your brains and manners parked
somewhere else.


None of which tells us ANYTHING about why you think we should not use registry
cleaners, and what harm you think they do.


http://groups.google.com/group/micro...b2f696ca1b9462
http://boards.msn.com/safetyboards/t...D%3D 28824491
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic110399.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;299958
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888637
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/247678
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...3c7b89f3ba?q=#
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951950
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1aaebff35bc 6

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ners-necessary
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

They do absolutely nothing to improve performance and reliability of NT
installations and they can and do cause problem. Along with that many
of them carry pests and malware and others are fraudware, you install
them and they muck up your computer and the scam artists who wrote these
snake oil programs try to extort money from you to remove their pests
from your computer. Why bother?

John
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  #47  
Old January 8th 10, 11:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Olórin[_2_]
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Default Registry cleaner ?


"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
snip
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


People who make an issue of what is clearly a typo on someone else's part
but make one themselves when they do so - always a giggle.

Try removing the plank from "you" own eye first!


  #48  
Old January 8th 10, 11:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Olorin
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Default Registry cleaner ?



"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
snip
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


People who make an issue of what is clearly a typo on someone else's part
but make one themselves when they do so - always a giggle.

Try removing the plank from "you" own eye first!


  #49  
Old January 8th 10, 01:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
sandy58[_3_]
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Posts: 424
Default Registry cleaner ?

On Jan 8, 1:30*am, VanguardLH wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. *I
believe it's freeware.


Has anyone used this program? *Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
* your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. *Regardless of
relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final authority in allowing
it to make the changes. *Any registry cleaner that does not request for YOU
to give permission to make its proposed changes along with listing each
proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? *When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot into
Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it is usable
again? *Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for backups of its
changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how are you going to
perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after hosing over its
registry? *What about entries in the registry that look to be orphaned under
the current OS load instance but are used under a different OS environment?
You delete what looks orphaned only to find out that they are required under
a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your registry,
like 4MB. *By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed up how long it
takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts up - by all of
maybe 1 second. *Oooh, aaah. *All that risk of modifying the registry to
save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows startup. *Most folks that
clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB, or less. *They are doing
nothing to improve their Windows load time. *Since the registry is only read
from the memory copy of it, and since memory is random access, there is no
difference to read one byte of the registry (in memory) from the another
byte in the registry (also in memory). *The extra data in memory for
orphaned entries has no effect on the time to retrieve items from the memory
copy of the registry because orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they
were, they aren't orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. *The reduced size of the registry's .dat files
might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and probably much
less. *And you want to risk the stability of your OS for inconsequential
changes to its registry? *The same boobs that get suckered into these
registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get suckered into the memory
defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. *The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. *After all, and regardless of the stagnant
expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the final authority
in what registry changes are performed whether you do it manually or with a
utility. *If YOU do not understand the proposed change (which requires the
product actually divulge the proposed change before committing that change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?


Rather a brash statement:
"If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. "
Does that mean you personally can MANUALLY fix Corrupt files, do a
Spellcheck, do a full Search, take/make a Snapshot, do the job of a
Translator...withOUT using software? Behave, laddie. You MAY be Good
but you AIN'T God......YET!
  #50  
Old January 8th 10, 01:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
sandy58[_3_]
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Posts: 424
Default Registry cleaner ?

On Jan 8, 1:30*am, VanguardLH wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. *I
believe it's freeware.


Has anyone used this program? *Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
* your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. *Regardless of
relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final authority in allowing
it to make the changes. *Any registry cleaner that does not request for YOU
to give permission to make its proposed changes along with listing each
proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? *When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot into
Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it is usable
again? *Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for backups of its
changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how are you going to
perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after hosing over its
registry? *What about entries in the registry that look to be orphaned under
the current OS load instance but are used under a different OS environment?
You delete what looks orphaned only to find out that they are required under
a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your registry,
like 4MB. *By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed up how long it
takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts up - by all of
maybe 1 second. *Oooh, aaah. *All that risk of modifying the registry to
save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows startup. *Most folks that
clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB, or less. *They are doing
nothing to improve their Windows load time. *Since the registry is only read
from the memory copy of it, and since memory is random access, there is no
difference to read one byte of the registry (in memory) from the another
byte in the registry (also in memory). *The extra data in memory for
orphaned entries has no effect on the time to retrieve items from the memory
copy of the registry because orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they
were, they aren't orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. *The reduced size of the registry's .dat files
might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and probably much
less. *And you want to risk the stability of your OS for inconsequential
changes to its registry? *The same boobs that get suckered into these
registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get suckered into the memory
defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. *The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. *After all, and regardless of the stagnant
expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the final authority
in what registry changes are performed whether you do it manually or with a
utility. *If YOU do not understand the proposed change (which requires the
product actually divulge the proposed change before committing that change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?


Rather a brash statement:
"If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. "
Does that mean you personally can MANUALLY fix Corrupt files, do a
Spellcheck, do a full Search, take/make a Snapshot, do the job of a
Translator...withOUT using software? Behave, laddie. You MAY be Good
but you AIN'T God......YET!
  #51  
Old January 8th 10, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Unknown
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Posts: 6,007
Default Registry cleaner ?

VanguardLH said it correctly. If you are inept at editing the registry
manually don't use a program to do
it for you. His post was well said and educational.
But, Sandy58, this has absolutely nothing to do with fixing corrupt files,
do a spell-check, do a full search,
take/make a snapshot, etc. Perhaps, you have no idea what a registry is?
"sandy58" wrote in message
...
On Jan 8, 1:30 am, VanguardLH wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.


Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. Regardless of
relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final authority in
allowing
it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner that does not request for YOU
to give permission to make its proposed changes along with listing each
proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot
into
Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it is
usable
again? Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for backups of its
changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how are you going to
perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after hosing over its
registry? What about entries in the registry that look to be orphaned
under
the current OS load instance but are used under a different OS
environment?
You delete what looks orphaned only to find out that they are required
under
a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry,
like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed up how long it
takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts up - by all of
maybe 1 second. Oooh, aaah. All that risk of modifying the registry to
save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows startup. Most folks that
clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB, or less. They are doing
nothing to improve their Windows load time. Since the registry is only
read
from the memory copy of it, and since memory is random access, there is no
difference to read one byte of the registry (in memory) from the another
byte in the registry (also in memory). The extra data in memory for
orphaned entries has no effect on the time to retrieve items from the
memory
copy of the registry because orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they
were, they aren't orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. The reduced size of the registry's .dat files
might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and probably much
less. And you want to risk the stability of your OS for inconsequential
changes to its registry? The same boobs that get suckered into these
registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get suckered into the
memory
defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. After all, and regardless of the
stagnant
expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the final
authority
in what registry changes are performed whether you do it manually or with
a
utility. If YOU do not understand the proposed change (which requires the
product actually divulge the proposed change before committing that
change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?


Rather a brash statement:
"If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. "
Does that mean you personally can MANUALLY fix Corrupt files, do a
Spellcheck, do a full Search, take/make a Snapshot, do the job of a
Translator...withOUT using software? Behave, laddie. You MAY be Good
but you AIN'T God......YET!


  #52  
Old January 8th 10, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry cleaner ?

VanguardLH said it correctly. If you are inept at editing the registry
manually don't use a program to do
it for you. His post was well said and educational.
But, Sandy58, this has absolutely nothing to do with fixing corrupt files,
do a spell-check, do a full search,
take/make a snapshot, etc. Perhaps, you have no idea what a registry is?
"sandy58" wrote in message
...
On Jan 8, 1:30 am, VanguardLH wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.


Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. Regardless of
relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final authority in
allowing
it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner that does not request for YOU
to give permission to make its proposed changes along with listing each
proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer boot
into
Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it is
usable
again? Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for backups of its
changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how are you going to
perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after hosing over its
registry? What about entries in the registry that look to be orphaned
under
the current OS load instance but are used under a different OS
environment?
You delete what looks orphaned only to find out that they are required
under
a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry,
like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed up how long it
takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts up - by all of
maybe 1 second. Oooh, aaah. All that risk of modifying the registry to
save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows startup. Most folks that
clean the registry end up deleting only 10KB, or less. They are doing
nothing to improve their Windows load time. Since the registry is only
read
from the memory copy of it, and since memory is random access, there is no
difference to read one byte of the registry (in memory) from the another
byte in the registry (also in memory). The extra data in memory for
orphaned entries has no effect on the time to retrieve items from the
memory
copy of the registry because orphaned entries are never retrieved (if they
were, they aren't orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry. The reduced size of the registry's .dat files
might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and probably much
less. And you want to risk the stability of your OS for inconsequential
changes to its registry? The same boobs that get suckered into these
registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that get suckered into the
memory
defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can correctly
cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to automate the same
process but you should know every change that it intends to make and
understand each of those changes. After all, and regardless of the
stagnant
expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the final
authority
in what registry changes are performed whether you do it manually or with
a
utility. If YOU do not understand the proposed change (which requires the
product actually divulge the proposed change before committing that
change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?


Rather a brash statement:
"If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. "
Does that mean you personally can MANUALLY fix Corrupt files, do a
Spellcheck, do a full Search, take/make a Snapshot, do the job of a
Translator...withOUT using software? Behave, laddie. You MAY be Good
but you AIN'T God......YET!


  #53  
Old January 9th 10, 03:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
thanatoid
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Posts: 584
Default Registry cleaner ?

"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...


Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


| You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


Forget the BS spelling faux pas...


It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!


| OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth


I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.


I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

  #54  
Old January 9th 10, 03:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
thanatoid
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Posts: 584
Default Registry cleaner ?

"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...


Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


| You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


Forget the BS spelling faux pas...


It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!


| OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth


I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.


I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

  #55  
Old January 9th 10, 03:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
thanatoid
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Posts: 584
Default Registry cleaner ?

John John - MVP wrote in
:

I'll post where ever I want and if you don't like it don't
bother reading my posts.


Huh? You talkin' to me?

What good, pray tell, has a registry cleaner ever done for
you?


At various times, it has removed between 25-500 useless entries,
reduced the registry size by 5%-20%, defragged it, and gave me
the kind of good feeling we anal-retentives enjoy having.

Like all the other believers out there you put some
kind of blind faith or voodoo trust in them and because
your registry cleaner has found and removed a couple


Not "couple", between 25-500 per session, depending on how many
stupid programs written by morons I have tried and "uninstalled"
in the meantime.

of
orphaned registry entries it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling
and you think that it's doing something useful.


I do think that's useful. You are welcome to disagree.

Your question says it all, "WHAT, pray tell, has one done
to any of YOUR systems that you could not undo with the
backup files...".


Too bad you can't answer that question. The truth - as I have
seen it in all my time on the Usenet (this subject tends to be
recurrent) - is that of all the peoploids carping on about how
BAD Reg Cleaners are, not ONE has ever been able to give me an
example of ANYTHING that got ****ed up.

That is the gist of it all. Why bother
with programs that at best do nothing other than give you a
fuzzy feeling


Hey, my life sucks, I take what I can get.

and that at worst will cause problems
requiring you to restore registry files?


E X A M P L E P L E A S E.

That is if the
registry cleaner can even restore its own backup (often
they can't)


Why do you keep on inventing ****? Admit it, you've never even
used one.

or if it hasn't crippled the installation to
the point where the Windows can't boot properly.


And this has happened to you H O W many time, exactly?

Right.

These
cleaners are next to utterly useless and the purposed non
existent benefits parroted by the vendors and fans of these
programs are simply not worth the risk of the real damages
that these programs can and do sometimes cause.


A G A I N, E X A M P L E P L E A S E.

Or, just STFU.

And don't top post.
  #56  
Old January 9th 10, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
thanatoid
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Posts: 584
Default Registry cleaner ?

"Olórin" wrote in
:

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
snip
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


People who make an issue of what is clearly a typo


"Rulke" would be more of a /typo/. I am sure he knows there's
only one "l" but I am not sure he has heard of spell checkers.
That is one typo any one of them WOULD have caught.

on someone else's part but make one themselves when they do so
- always a giggle.


I am always happy to provide amusement.

Try removing the plank from "you" own eye first!


I likes me planks, Mr. Wizard. And at least I /use/ my spell-
checker.
  #57  
Old January 9th 10, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
thanatoid
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 584
Default Registry cleaner ?

"Olórin" wrote in
:

"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
snip
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.


People who make an issue of what is clearly a typo


"Rulke" would be more of a /typo/. I am sure he knows there's
only one "l" but I am not sure he has heard of spell checkers.
That is one typo any one of them WOULD have caught.

on someone else's part but make one themselves when they do so
- always a giggle.


I am always happy to provide amusement.

Try removing the plank from "you" own eye first!


I likes me planks, Mr. Wizard. And at least I /use/ my spell-
checker.
  #58  
Old January 9th 10, 11:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
sandy58[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 424
Default Registry cleaner ?

On Jan 8, 5:28*am, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:
From: "Steve Hayes"

| On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:48:54 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

| wrote:
From: "Jackson"
| Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
| Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. *I
| believe it's freeware.
| Has anyone used this program? *Do you have any remarks or
| recomendations?
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL
Rulle of thumb...
Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


| So how should you clean the registry, then?

You don't. *There is no need to clean the Registry. *It is a myth to sell snake oil. *Very
often these so-called Registry Cleaners are malware.

--
Davehttp://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV -http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


"Very often these so-called Registry Cleaners are malware. "
As are some AV programs....and your point is? It's a personal choice
whether or not to use a reg program.
You believe in the "snake oil" theory (and that's all it is, a
THEORY.) no-one here has yet mentioned specifics. Name of program/what
it did wrong/resulting chaos etc. It's all very well slagging away
but, like politicians, smoke & mirrors/hot air. A great percentage of
negative posters here have been persuaded by the other negative
posters. Not one of them has a positive example of damage inflicted on
a system.
NOW we should see loads of 2nd- & 3rd-hand examples of how PC's have
been totalled through using Registry Cleaners. :-)
  #59  
Old January 9th 10, 11:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
sandy58[_3_]
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Default Registry cleaner ?

On Jan 8, 5:28*am, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:
From: "Steve Hayes"

| On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:48:54 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

| wrote:
From: "Jackson"
| Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
| Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. *I
| believe it's freeware.
| Has anyone used this program? *Do you have any remarks or
| recomendations?
| Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL
Rulle of thumb...
Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !


| So how should you clean the registry, then?

You don't. *There is no need to clean the Registry. *It is a myth to sell snake oil. *Very
often these so-called Registry Cleaners are malware.

--
Davehttp://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV -http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


"Very often these so-called Registry Cleaners are malware. "
As are some AV programs....and your point is? It's a personal choice
whether or not to use a reg program.
You believe in the "snake oil" theory (and that's all it is, a
THEORY.) no-one here has yet mentioned specifics. Name of program/what
it did wrong/resulting chaos etc. It's all very well slagging away
but, like politicians, smoke & mirrors/hot air. A great percentage of
negative posters here have been persuaded by the other negative
posters. Not one of them has a positive example of damage inflicted on
a system.
NOW we should see loads of 2nd- & 3rd-hand examples of how PC's have
been totalled through using Registry Cleaners. :-)
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Old January 9th 10, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Etaoin Shrdlu[_2_]
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Default Registry cleaner ?

thanatoid wrote:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...
Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !
| You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.
Forget the BS spelling faux pas...
It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

| OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth


I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.


I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

What you haven't done, for all of your posturing, is tell why you think
registry cleaning is a good idea. We know that there's always a chance
that a neophyte will "clean" something that will result in trouble, and
even if the chance is remote, there must be something that makes the
risk worthwhile. If you just want to clean out orphaned entries because
their presence bothers you, that's a personal neurosis and not evidence
of efficacy. Do you believe that large numbers of orphaned entries cause
a problem (such as significantly slowing down the system) other than
their mere presence? If so, what objective evidence do you have? Note
that "I know my system's faster after registry cleaning" isn't objective
evidence.
 




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