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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:50:26 -0500, edfair wrote: Original post requested command line to be able to run xcopy. Sorry, that's wrong. The original post said "leave windows to return to DOS prompt." That's very different from going to a command line, and is not possible. What you suggest *may* work for the OP, but it is certainly *not* what he asked for. To get to command line: start run cmd or start run command or start programs accessories command line or the reboot and selective startup to command line using [F8] any of which might allow the xcopy to work as OP wants it to. Once again, the fantASStic MVP stated what was wrong, but not what was right to do. To achieve the same affect, one simply opens the Command Prompt, often referred to as the DOS window as a matter of fact. You're still in XP, but you're in a mode that may run DOS games, commands, etc., depending on the game/command etc.. I suspect the OP has left this thread with the firm idea that it's comprised of nothing but butt-heads, and impossible to tell who to believe or what to believe, and disgusted thanks to the likes of answers you often give. He'd be right, too: You and others like you have turned this into a nearly useless group for anyone lacking the expertise to phrase things exactly as YOU want to see them phrased. Good evidence of that is your negative statement and lack of addressing the OP's needs. You need to return to the Clarification and Verification chapters of Interpersonal Skills assessment. I'll bet the OP doesn't even CARE whether he "leaves" XP or not, that's just the best way he had of explaining what his experience is. All he wanted to know really is how to use the DOS facilities of XP. And you never gave a positive response to that question. HTH, Twayne` |
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"Hodges" wrote in message
On Sep 22, 6:30 pm, sandy58 wrote: On Sep 21, 6:48 pm, "Twayne" wrote: "Stan Brown" wrote in message t Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:53:41 -0700 from Malke : navnah wrote: How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY command to back up damaged files. There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in Win9x/ME. Or, to answer what the OP really wants to know, click Start | Programs | Accessories | Command prompt. If it's not there, click Start | Run and enter this command cmd /k then click OK I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of speech. Actually, Microsoft describes the Command Prompt as a DOS window too, in so many places one could never count them. It's even in the Help & Support area on your own computer. The proper definition is that XP is not BUILT ON TOP OF DOS as other windws versions were and thus is not DOS based as other windows versions were. It does in fact still have a DOS window, found in the Command Prompt, and today it is much more than a simple DOS emulator since it has many many more possible commands at the user's disposal. Purists such as you encountered are silly and nonsensical beings in that they have no wish to help the OP but rather only wish to show their own egoes to the world. Who cares? You tell them, Twayne. DOS works with XP. If I can move stuff around, get rid of files etc that won't move in Windows, et al......I have DOS!!!! Pseudo or whatever the so-called MS fundi's want to call it.......it's freakin' DOS!! Just because MS used the story as a sales pitch (people were scared of DOS) "Windows XP has no DOS" these afore- mentioned fundis use the same dogma, "No such thing as DOS in....." till they begin to actually believe their chant. DOS does not work with XP and cannot read NTFS volumes without 3rd- party applications such as NTFS4DOS. The command prompt is not the DOS operating system just because it is a command-line interpreter. This isn't just arguing semantics here, it really is NOT the same as DOS. It isn't even an emulator. DOS is 16-bit, programs that run under Windows XP's command line are 32-bit. By your logic, Windows 95 is the same as XP in the Windows Classic theme because they look similar. Calling the command-line interpreter "DOS" is just as ignorant as calling a computer tower or monitor the CPU. Once again, another post with totally moot points. If you have no room in your life for newbies who haven't yet gotten hold of the lingo, then you should go elsewhere to show off your ego. If you aren't going to address the OP's question somehow, then you have/had no business posting anything here. Windows95 is windows. windows is not necessarily win9x or winXP or ... . Therefore I could easily say "windows" and mean XP. And since this is an XP group ... This post is of no use to anyone. |
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"Hodges" wrote in message
On Sep 22, 6:30 pm, sandy58 wrote: On Sep 21, 6:48 pm, "Twayne" wrote: "Stan Brown" wrote in message t Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:53:41 -0700 from Malke : navnah wrote: How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY command to back up damaged files. There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in Win9x/ME. Or, to answer what the OP really wants to know, click Start | Programs | Accessories | Command prompt. If it's not there, click Start | Run and enter this command cmd /k then click OK I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of speech. Actually, Microsoft describes the Command Prompt as a DOS window too, in so many places one could never count them. It's even in the Help & Support area on your own computer. The proper definition is that XP is not BUILT ON TOP OF DOS as other windws versions were and thus is not DOS based as other windows versions were. It does in fact still have a DOS window, found in the Command Prompt, and today it is much more than a simple DOS emulator since it has many many more possible commands at the user's disposal. Purists such as you encountered are silly and nonsensical beings in that they have no wish to help the OP but rather only wish to show their own egoes to the world. Who cares? You tell them, Twayne. DOS works with XP. If I can move stuff around, get rid of files etc that won't move in Windows, et al......I have DOS!!!! Pseudo or whatever the so-called MS fundi's want to call it.......it's freakin' DOS!! Just because MS used the story as a sales pitch (people were scared of DOS) "Windows XP has no DOS" these afore- mentioned fundis use the same dogma, "No such thing as DOS in....." till they begin to actually believe their chant. DOS does not work with XP and cannot read NTFS volumes without 3rd- party applications such as NTFS4DOS. The command prompt is not the DOS operating system just because it is a command-line interpreter. This isn't just arguing semantics here, it really is NOT the same as DOS. It isn't even an emulator. DOS is 16-bit, programs that run under Windows XP's command line are 32-bit. By your logic, Windows 95 is the same as XP in the Windows Classic theme because they look similar. Calling the command-line interpreter "DOS" is just as ignorant as calling a computer tower or monitor the CPU. Once again, another post with totally moot points. If you have no room in your life for newbies who haven't yet gotten hold of the lingo, then you should go elsewhere to show off your ego. If you aren't going to address the OP's question somehow, then you have/had no business posting anything here. Windows95 is windows. windows is not necessarily win9x or winXP or ... . Therefore I could easily say "windows" and mean XP. And since this is an XP group ... This post is of no use to anyone. |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:46:03 -0400, Twayne wrote:
Once again, the fantASStic MVP stated what was wrong, but not what was right to do. What is right depends upon what is desired. OP indicated, possibly, the expectation to exit from Windows into MS DOS. Entirely feasible with Windows 98, and earlier; but even with Windows Me, required as special MS DOS boot disc, or, possibly, modification of the standard Me installation. I never gave it a thought to try, the EBD worked fine, for me. It is, however, not possible to exit from Windows XP into MS DOS; because there is no MS DOS to exit into. With Windows XP, if the intent is to exit from Windows, then one is going to need an MS DOS boot disk; with the added issue that MS DOS can't read NTFS volumes. To achieve the same affect, one simply opens the Command Prompt, often referred to as the DOS window as a matter of fact. You're still in XP, but you're in a mode that may run DOS games, commands, etc., depending on the game/command etc.. It is should probably be pointed out to the OP that this is an "effect", but not the same as actually leaving Windows for MS DOS. Just for the OP's edification; lest he leave thinking that invoking the command prompt ("DOS box") is identical to "leaving Windows and dropping into MS DOS (it is most definitely not). I suspect the OP has left this thread with the firm idea that it's comprised of nothing but butt-heads, and impossible to tell who to believe or what to believe, and disgusted thanks to the likes of answers you often give. But you aren't helping matters, much! He'd be right, too: You and others like you have turned this into a nearly useless group for anyone lacking the expertise to phrase things exactly as YOU want to see them phrased. Good evidence of that is your negative statement and lack of addressing the OP's needs. What the OP wanted, and what he needed, were two different things. What he wanted is impossible under Windows XP. What he needed was an education, not positive reinforcement of an incorrect assumption (that it is possible to exit Windows XP and enter MS DOS). You need to return to the Clarification and Verification chapters of Interpersonal Skills assessment. When you have done that, yourself, get back to us and report on your findings! I'll bet the OP doesn't even CARE whether he "leaves" XP or not, that's just the best way he had of explaining what his experience is. All he wanted to know really is how to use the DOS facilities of XP. And you never gave a positive response to that question. Now you are making an assumption. And, in case you don't know, "Assume" make an "Ass" of "u" and "me". You could be just as wrong as you could be right. Flip a coin: Heads you nailed it, tails you missed it. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:46:03 -0400, Twayne wrote:
Once again, the fantASStic MVP stated what was wrong, but not what was right to do. What is right depends upon what is desired. OP indicated, possibly, the expectation to exit from Windows into MS DOS. Entirely feasible with Windows 98, and earlier; but even with Windows Me, required as special MS DOS boot disc, or, possibly, modification of the standard Me installation. I never gave it a thought to try, the EBD worked fine, for me. It is, however, not possible to exit from Windows XP into MS DOS; because there is no MS DOS to exit into. With Windows XP, if the intent is to exit from Windows, then one is going to need an MS DOS boot disk; with the added issue that MS DOS can't read NTFS volumes. To achieve the same affect, one simply opens the Command Prompt, often referred to as the DOS window as a matter of fact. You're still in XP, but you're in a mode that may run DOS games, commands, etc., depending on the game/command etc.. It is should probably be pointed out to the OP that this is an "effect", but not the same as actually leaving Windows for MS DOS. Just for the OP's edification; lest he leave thinking that invoking the command prompt ("DOS box") is identical to "leaving Windows and dropping into MS DOS (it is most definitely not). I suspect the OP has left this thread with the firm idea that it's comprised of nothing but butt-heads, and impossible to tell who to believe or what to believe, and disgusted thanks to the likes of answers you often give. But you aren't helping matters, much! He'd be right, too: You and others like you have turned this into a nearly useless group for anyone lacking the expertise to phrase things exactly as YOU want to see them phrased. Good evidence of that is your negative statement and lack of addressing the OP's needs. What the OP wanted, and what he needed, were two different things. What he wanted is impossible under Windows XP. What he needed was an education, not positive reinforcement of an incorrect assumption (that it is possible to exit Windows XP and enter MS DOS). You need to return to the Clarification and Verification chapters of Interpersonal Skills assessment. When you have done that, yourself, get back to us and report on your findings! I'll bet the OP doesn't even CARE whether he "leaves" XP or not, that's just the best way he had of explaining what his experience is. All he wanted to know really is how to use the DOS facilities of XP. And you never gave a positive response to that question. Now you are making an assumption. And, in case you don't know, "Assume" make an "Ass" of "u" and "me". You could be just as wrong as you could be right. Flip a coin: Heads you nailed it, tails you missed it. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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Norman
Planning on becoming a Diplomat anytime soon. LOL -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "N. Miller" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:46:03 -0400, Twayne wrote: Once again, the fantASStic MVP stated what was wrong, but not what was right to do. What is right depends upon what is desired. OP indicated, possibly, the expectation to exit from Windows into MS DOS. Entirely feasible with Windows 98, and earlier; but even with Windows Me, required as special MS DOS boot disc, or, possibly, modification of the standard Me installation. I never gave it a thought to try, the EBD worked fine, for me. It is, however, not possible to exit from Windows XP into MS DOS; because there is no MS DOS to exit into. With Windows XP, if the intent is to exit from Windows, then one is going to need an MS DOS boot disk; with the added issue that MS DOS can't read NTFS volumes. To achieve the same affect, one simply opens the Command Prompt, often referred to as the DOS window as a matter of fact. You're still in XP, but you're in a mode that may run DOS games, commands, etc., depending on the game/command etc.. It is should probably be pointed out to the OP that this is an "effect", but not the same as actually leaving Windows for MS DOS. Just for the OP's edification; lest he leave thinking that invoking the command prompt ("DOS box") is identical to "leaving Windows and dropping into MS DOS (it is most definitely not). I suspect the OP has left this thread with the firm idea that it's comprised of nothing but butt-heads, and impossible to tell who to believe or what to believe, and disgusted thanks to the likes of answers you often give. But you aren't helping matters, much! He'd be right, too: You and others like you have turned this into a nearly useless group for anyone lacking the expertise to phrase things exactly as YOU want to see them phrased. Good evidence of that is your negative statement and lack of addressing the OP's needs. What the OP wanted, and what he needed, were two different things. What he wanted is impossible under Windows XP. What he needed was an education, not positive reinforcement of an incorrect assumption (that it is possible to exit Windows XP and enter MS DOS). You need to return to the Clarification and Verification chapters of Interpersonal Skills assessment. When you have done that, yourself, get back to us and report on your findings! I'll bet the OP doesn't even CARE whether he "leaves" XP or not, that's just the best way he had of explaining what his experience is. All he wanted to know really is how to use the DOS facilities of XP. And you never gave a positive response to that question. Now you are making an assumption. And, in case you don't know, "Assume" make an "Ass" of "u" and "me". You could be just as wrong as you could be right. Flip a coin: Heads you nailed it, tails you missed it. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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Norman
Planning on becoming a Diplomat anytime soon. LOL -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "N. Miller" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:46:03 -0400, Twayne wrote: Once again, the fantASStic MVP stated what was wrong, but not what was right to do. What is right depends upon what is desired. OP indicated, possibly, the expectation to exit from Windows into MS DOS. Entirely feasible with Windows 98, and earlier; but even with Windows Me, required as special MS DOS boot disc, or, possibly, modification of the standard Me installation. I never gave it a thought to try, the EBD worked fine, for me. It is, however, not possible to exit from Windows XP into MS DOS; because there is no MS DOS to exit into. With Windows XP, if the intent is to exit from Windows, then one is going to need an MS DOS boot disk; with the added issue that MS DOS can't read NTFS volumes. To achieve the same affect, one simply opens the Command Prompt, often referred to as the DOS window as a matter of fact. You're still in XP, but you're in a mode that may run DOS games, commands, etc., depending on the game/command etc.. It is should probably be pointed out to the OP that this is an "effect", but not the same as actually leaving Windows for MS DOS. Just for the OP's edification; lest he leave thinking that invoking the command prompt ("DOS box") is identical to "leaving Windows and dropping into MS DOS (it is most definitely not). I suspect the OP has left this thread with the firm idea that it's comprised of nothing but butt-heads, and impossible to tell who to believe or what to believe, and disgusted thanks to the likes of answers you often give. But you aren't helping matters, much! He'd be right, too: You and others like you have turned this into a nearly useless group for anyone lacking the expertise to phrase things exactly as YOU want to see them phrased. Good evidence of that is your negative statement and lack of addressing the OP's needs. What the OP wanted, and what he needed, were two different things. What he wanted is impossible under Windows XP. What he needed was an education, not positive reinforcement of an incorrect assumption (that it is possible to exit Windows XP and enter MS DOS). You need to return to the Clarification and Verification chapters of Interpersonal Skills assessment. When you have done that, yourself, get back to us and report on your findings! I'll bet the OP doesn't even CARE whether he "leaves" XP or not, that's just the best way he had of explaining what his experience is. All he wanted to know really is how to use the DOS facilities of XP. And you never gave a positive response to that question. Now you are making an assumption. And, in case you don't know, "Assume" make an "Ass" of "u" and "me". You could be just as wrong as you could be right. Flip a coin: Heads you nailed it, tails you missed it. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:51:04 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:
Planning on becoming a Diplomat anytime soon. LOL War is a form of diplomacy. I'll stick with M16s, M60s, and M109s, thank you (though those are now obsolete). -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:51:04 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote: Planning on becoming a Diplomat anytime soon. LOL War is a form of diplomacy. I'll stick with M16s, M60s, and M109s, thank you (though those are now obsolete). -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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Steve Hayes wrote: Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. He didn't say he wanted to "exit" Windows at all. He wanted to leave the GUI in order to enter the xcopy command at the command line. navnah; Click on your start button, find and click on RUN and in the blank, type in the following: cmd /k xcopy /? then you should click the OK button. This will bring up a command prompt where you can issue all sorts of command line scripts and use all sorts of command line tools. It will also give you the HELP for the XCOPY command still built in Windows XP. If - in the future - you just want the command prompt, the command you type will be just: cmd and a new command prompt will open. You could also look under the "Accessories" under the "All Programs" of your Start menu and find the command prompt icon that will do something similar. Everyone else; Semantics and religious zealotry when it comes to this particular material? Really? Quoting the question word for word... "How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt?" What do you know, the word "exit" was not used. Only the word "leave". http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/exit "exit (verb)" entry... Meaning: to leave a place often for another However - this argument is just getting silly now. The original poster is the only one that could clarify what they meant to say/wanted to do and with all the ridiculous bickering (yep - I just added to it in fun and to demonstrate the level this has gotten to... or actually, dropped to) I doubt that will ever occur. ;-) What one says and what one means may not be an exact reflection of one another. Go funhouse mirrors! Entire conversation: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...aeca3a701120b/ 42 responses for one query and one statement of purpose. Amazing(ly ridiculous.) Continue bickering amongst yourselves. I guess better over this than anything serious. ;-) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Steve Hayes wrote: Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. He didn't say he wanted to "exit" Windows at all. He wanted to leave the GUI in order to enter the xcopy command at the command line. navnah; Click on your start button, find and click on RUN and in the blank, type in the following: cmd /k xcopy /? then you should click the OK button. This will bring up a command prompt where you can issue all sorts of command line scripts and use all sorts of command line tools. It will also give you the HELP for the XCOPY command still built in Windows XP. If - in the future - you just want the command prompt, the command you type will be just: cmd and a new command prompt will open. You could also look under the "Accessories" under the "All Programs" of your Start menu and find the command prompt icon that will do something similar. Everyone else; Semantics and religious zealotry when it comes to this particular material? Really? Quoting the question word for word... "How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt?" What do you know, the word "exit" was not used. Only the word "leave". http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/exit "exit (verb)" entry... Meaning: to leave a place often for another However - this argument is just getting silly now. The original poster is the only one that could clarify what they meant to say/wanted to do and with all the ridiculous bickering (yep - I just added to it in fun and to demonstrate the level this has gotten to... or actually, dropped to) I doubt that will ever occur. ;-) What one says and what one means may not be an exact reflection of one another. Go funhouse mirrors! Entire conversation: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...aeca3a701120b/ 42 responses for one query and one statement of purpose. Amazing(ly ridiculous.) Continue bickering amongst yourselves. I guess better over this than anything serious. ;-) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:12:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. What the OP said: | How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? How do you "leave" Windows without "exiting"? Basic English. You are interpolating what you think he wanted with what he actually said. You may be right, in the end, but it is he who used ambiguous English. Let him return to the thread to disambiguate his statement; don't be putting words in his mouth that you think he may have meant, unless you are privy to knowledge that the rest of us mortals have not. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:12:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. What the OP said: | How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? How do you "leave" Windows without "exiting"? Basic English. You are interpolating what you think he wanted with what he actually said. You may be right, in the end, but it is he who used ambiguous English. Let him return to the thread to disambiguate his statement; don't be putting words in his mouth that you think he may have meant, unless you are privy to knowledge that the rest of us mortals have not. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:40:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:55:51 -0700, "N. Miller" wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:12:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. What the OP said: | How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? How do you "leave" Windows without "exiting"? Basic English. You are interpolating what you think he wanted with what he actually said. You may be right, in the end, but it is he who used ambiguous English. Let him return to the thread to disambiguate his statement; don't be putting words in his mouth that you think he may have meant, unless you are privy to knowledge that the rest of us mortals have not. It's a metaphor, my china ... Your Chinese sucks! ... and Windows uses lots of metaphors, in order to make it "user friendly" and enable the user to avoid having to know all about the underlying intricacies of the operating system. 'Twas the OP's words, not Windows. I don't know the OP well enough to know that he speaks in metaphors. Do you? Windows uses paper file folders as a metaphor for directories, which is a bit like early cars having reins coming through the dashboard and a socket for a whip. Not really. And I really do hate car analogies; they are usually strained beyond any utility. The letter kills, but the spirit gives life, and Windows uses too many metaphors as it is, but it's in the spirit of Windows to do so, and so if the user wants to leave the GUI in order to give commands to the operating system, so be it. But you don't "leave the GUI" when you invoke a command prompt. The GUI is right their under the command prompt window. He doesn't necessarily want to close Windows, just not work through it for the moment. Or so you assume. Originally the GUI ran on top of the operating system, now it is more integrated, but for the purpose of what the user wants to do, it doesn't matter. The spirit of Windows is to try to be user friendly. It doesn't always succeed, but it doesn't need people deliberately trying to make it user hostile. None of which disambiguates the OP's ambiguous statement. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:40:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:55:51 -0700, "N. Miller" wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:12:34 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote: Rubbish. What he wanted to know was how to use the xcopy command. What the OP said: | How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? How do you "leave" Windows without "exiting"? Basic English. You are interpolating what you think he wanted with what he actually said. You may be right, in the end, but it is he who used ambiguous English. Let him return to the thread to disambiguate his statement; don't be putting words in his mouth that you think he may have meant, unless you are privy to knowledge that the rest of us mortals have not. It's a metaphor, my china ... Your Chinese sucks! ... and Windows uses lots of metaphors, in order to make it "user friendly" and enable the user to avoid having to know all about the underlying intricacies of the operating system. 'Twas the OP's words, not Windows. I don't know the OP well enough to know that he speaks in metaphors. Do you? Windows uses paper file folders as a metaphor for directories, which is a bit like early cars having reins coming through the dashboard and a socket for a whip. Not really. And I really do hate car analogies; they are usually strained beyond any utility. The letter kills, but the spirit gives life, and Windows uses too many metaphors as it is, but it's in the spirit of Windows to do so, and so if the user wants to leave the GUI in order to give commands to the operating system, so be it. But you don't "leave the GUI" when you invoke a command prompt. The GUI is right their under the command prompt window. He doesn't necessarily want to close Windows, just not work through it for the moment. Or so you assume. Originally the GUI ran on top of the operating system, now it is more integrated, but for the purpose of what the user wants to do, it doesn't matter. The spirit of Windows is to try to be user friendly. It doesn't always succeed, but it doesn't need people deliberately trying to make it user hostile. None of which disambiguates the OP's ambiguous statement. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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