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Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?



 
 
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Old April 19th 18, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ragnusen Ultred
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Default Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?

Update from the printers... the Mac Adobe Illustrator screwed up when it
read in the Window AI file with the fonts converted to shapes.

----- here is the email from the printer -----

We will figure it out. You don't need to do anymore.

When importing a file from an older version of AI into a newer version, the
layers collect information into what are called "compound paths". This
messes up what has been outlined somehow.

I can normally fix it, but the file from you has 10 layers of compound
paths, which is not normal. You didn't do anything wrong.

I hope to fix this file tomorrow for the guys to get the printing process
going.
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Old April 19th 18, 01:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & withfonts?

On 4/18/2018 7:19 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Update from the printers... the Mac Adobe Illustrator screwed up when it
read in the Window AI file with the fonts converted to shapes.

----- here is the email from the printer -----

We will figure it out. You don't need to do anymore.

When importing a file from an older version of AI into a newer version, the
layers collect information into what are called "compound paths". This
messes up what has been outlined somehow.

I can normally fix it, but the file from you has 10 layers of compound
paths, which is not normal. You didn't do anything wrong.

I hope to fix this file tomorrow for the guys to get the printing process
going.

It's good that they're being so nice to you, because they want your
business. However, what you ran into is no surprise to me. The reality
is that _when Illustrator is used correctly_, the PC and Mac versions
are completely compatible. Illustrator is a complex program that
requires users to have a good understanding of vector graphics programs.

I've used this program for over 30 years, but perhaps you and Paul can
come up with some "Googled solutions". 8-P

--
best regards,

Neil
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Old April 19th 18, 02:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ragnusen Ultred
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Default Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?

Am Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:17:22 -0400, schrieb Neil:

It's good that they're being so nice to you, because they want your
business. However, what you ran into is no surprise to me. The reality
is that _when Illustrator is used correctly_, the PC and Mac versions
are completely compatible. Illustrator is a complex program that
requires users to have a good understanding of vector graphics programs.

I've used this program for over 30 years, but perhaps you and Paul can
come up with some "Googled solutions". 8-P


Hi Neil,
Thanks for your words of both caution and wisdom, and, for the little dig
at the end, which I smiled at.

I'm just reporting what they told me, so, I wish I knew more; but I just
don't.

Since I had to re-create the files for the shop, I took the one page
template (bearing in mind that the actual file is a score of signs and not
just the one sign in the template) and posted them, just now, just in case
someone has a later Adobe Illustrator who can read in the AI file that I
created from Windows to figure out what AI is screwing up exactly.

Here are the updated files from Adobe Illustrator in CS2 on Windows.

0. With the Roadgeek 2005 Series B font set already installed into the
system font directory on windows...
http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/333rxp7d/file.html

1. Starting with signs.pptx from MS Office 2007 on Windows which has the
entire font set embedded but which only uses "Roadgeek 2005 Series B"
fonts.
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/EqdGVdCQ/file.html

2. I saved that as PDF using the official Microsoft Office Save-as-PDF
plugin, with embedded fonts saved into the PDF as signs.pdf.
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/Zf65nNnd/file.html

3. I opened that PDF with Adobe Illustrator 12.0 from CS2 on Windows, which
popped up a form saying:
- Illustrator PDF: Warnings
- The document contains PDF objects that have been reinterpreted:
- The font Roadgeek#202005#20Series#20B is missing. (sic)
- Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. (sic)
- I substituted the RoadGeek font

4. I then selected all with control a, and then pressed
AI: Type Font (I selected "Roadgeek 2005 Series B"
using the dumbest GUI there could possibly be for a font selection,
which is to endlessly scroll, manually, since typing "R" doesn't
work and AI is too stupid to have a scroll bar - but no big deal,
eventually it scrolled to the Roadgeek 2005 Series B font to then
save as "signs_with_font_substituted.ai".
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/Dm3XIJJm/file.html

5. I then pressed control+a and then control+shift+o to create outlines
and saved that ai file as "signs_with_outlines.ai"
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/JGit6LU6/file.html

6 And then I chose EPS to save as "signs_with_outlines.eps"
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/Vj43bvg2/file.html

7. And then I saved as SVG as "signs_with_outlines.svg".
https://www119.zippyshare.com/v/KMSPgaup/file.html

When the #4 signs_with_outlines.ai is read into a current Mac Adobe AI at
the printers, the outlines are all screwed up as explained earlier today.
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Old April 19th 18, 01:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 4/18/2018 9:21 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Wed, 18 Apr 2018 20:17:22 -0400, schrieb Neil:

It's good that they're being so nice to you, because they want your
business. However, what you ran into is no surprise to me. The reality
is that _when Illustrator is used correctly_, the PC and Mac versions
are completely compatible. Illustrator is a complex program that
requires users to have a good understanding of vector graphics programs.

I've used this program for over 30 years, but perhaps you and Paul can
come up with some "Googled solutions". 8-P


Hi Neil,
Thanks for your words of both caution and wisdom, and, for the little dig
at the end, which I smiled at.

I'm just reporting what they told me, so, I wish I knew more; but I just
don't.

Since I had to re-create the files for the shop, I took the one page
template (bearing in mind that the actual file is a score of signs and not
just the one sign in the template) and posted them, just now, just in case
someone has a later Adobe Illustrator who can read in the AI file that I
created from Windows to figure out what AI is screwing up exactly.

Your problem is not the version of AI. Adobe products are backwards
compatible and cross-platform compatible. Your problem is the lack of
knowledge that you are coming to realize and the solution is the same
one I suggested a number of times in this thread: HIRE A PROFESSIONAL.

--
best regards,

Neil
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Old April 21st 18, 01:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ragnusen Ultred
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Default Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?

Am Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:06:00 -0400, schrieb Neil:

Your problem is not the version of AI. Adobe products are backwards
compatible and cross-platform compatible. Your problem is the lack of
knowledge that you are coming to realize and the solution is the same
one I suggested a number of times in this thread: HIRE A PROFESSIONAL.


Hi Neil,

I completely understand everything you say, since what you say we all knew
before the thread was opened.

It adds zero value, when people are actually *doing things* to say hire a
professional.

It's like someone wants to install Windows 10, and you say "HIRE A
PROFESSIONAL".

It's like someone asks how to set up the Windows start menu, and you say
"HIRE A PROFESSIONAL".

It's like someone asks how to prevent Windows from updating, and you say
"HIRE A PROFESSIONAL".

It's like someone asks which is the best font for road signs, and you say
"HIRE A PROFESSIONAL".

It's like someone asks what application draws arrows and you say "HIRE A
PROFESSIONAL".

It's like someone asks what's a good encryption tool and you say "HIRE A
PROFESSIONAL".

I suspect you don't understand a single word I wrote above, so let's just
say that I think you should get professional help.
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Old April 21st 18, 01:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & withfonts?

On 4/20/2018 8:04 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:06:00 -0400, schrieb Neil:

Your problem is not the version of AI. Adobe products are backwards
compatible and cross-platform compatible. Your problem is the lack of
knowledge that you are coming to realize and the solution is the same
one I suggested a number of times in this thread: HIRE A PROFESSIONAL.


Hi Neil,

I completely understand everything you say, since what you say we all knew
before the thread was opened.

It adds zero value, when people are actually *doing things* to say hire a
professional.

If you think what you're "doing" is the right way to go about the task,
then you are more clueless than I thought earlier.

It's like someone wants to install Windows 10, and you say "HIRE A
PROFESSIONAL".

I *would* say that to someone who has the lack experience with computers
that you have with graphic arts.

I suspect you don't understand a single word I wrote above, so let's just
say that I think you should get professional help.

Well, I doubt that you'd find a lot of support for your ignorant
presumptions about my ability to understand what you write. OTOH, you
don't even understand the ignorance embedded in your own writing, so if
someone needs professional help, it's you.

--
best regards,

Neil
 




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