Map you can actually print?

"Carlos E. R." wrote

| Marble seems to use OpenStreetMaps. OSM is
| so bad they don't even have a usable API.
|
| Huh?

Have you tried it? There's no public API as there is
with the other services. you're free to download the
maps and set up your own service, but that's a tall order.
And the maps themselves, in my experience, are not
very good.

"T" wrote

| take a look at "marble". Some things are missing, but
| it is open source, so no spying

It's of no interest to me. I'm not at all impressed with
OSM quality. I started using their site when my own
Google maps program got blocked by Google, but I
just didn't find it good enough to serve. Then their
website started malfunctioning, so that I could only get
a small square of map. I don't know why.

Marble is basically a frontend for OSM. It also isn't
available for XP. My own program uses Bing and works
on XP. So I have no use for Marble.

I do like the privacy. Part of the reason I made my
own program was because I didn't want to allow Google
to run script in my browser. By making my own program
I do let Google (now Bing) know my IP address, but
other than that it's private.

What would be nice would be a gov't service for this.
Many of the maps come from the gov't, anyway. With
the development of Google maps and Bing it's nearly
impossible these days to get any other maps. For instance,
the basic roadmaps by state that one used to buy for
a couple of dollars in gas stations. Gas stations no longer
have them, and no one gives them away online.

In article , Mayayana
wrote:


| Marble seems to use OpenStreetMaps. OSM is
| so bad they don't even have a usable API.
|
| Huh?

Have you tried it? There's no public API as there is
with the other services.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2pgsql

you're free to download the
maps and set up your own service, but that's a tall order.

not very tall and much more than just that.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobile

And the maps themselves, in my experience, are not
very good.

that's a different issue.

On 08/05/2019 22.26, Mayayana wrote:


What would be nice would be a gov't service for this.
Many of the maps come from the gov't, anyway. With
the development of Google maps and Bing it's nearly
impossible these days to get any other maps. For instance,
the basic roadmaps by state that one used to buy for
a couple of dollars in gas stations. Gas stations no longer
have them, and no one gives them away online.

We have them here. I mean, maps from government services, and other sources.

https://www.fomento.gob.es/informacion-para-el-ciudadano/centro-virtual-de-publicaciones/mapa-oficial-de-carreteras

Both DVD and paper (pay). I don't see the online version now.

Michelin has maps, online.
https://www.viamichelin.es/web/Mapas-Planos/Mapa_Plano-Espana

The Royal Automobile Club of Spain has another:

http://mapas.race.es/

here a web that has all the above plus google in PDF for printing (not
all for free):

https://www.enterat.com/servicios/mapa-carreteras-autopistas-espana.php

Another map, from Repsol (a petroleum products brand):

https://www.guiarepsol.com/es/descubrir/mapa/



And anyway, I'm impressed by the OSM maps I have used.

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On Wed, 8 May 2019 21:14:35 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

OpenStreetMap itself is limited and poor quality.

Depends on the area. In mine, it is pretty good.


+1 -- In mine, too.



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On Wed, 8 May 2019 16:08:32 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

"Carlos E. R." wrote

| Marble seems to use OpenStreetMaps. OSM is
| so bad they don't even have a usable API.
|
| Huh?

Have you tried it? There's no public API as there is
with the other services.


The OP did not ask for a public API. The OP asked for a website
with maps you can print.


you're free to download the
maps and set up your own service, but that's a tall order.

Organizations which do not want to pay Google's increasing prices
will do just that. For a working example of this, see
https://at.govt.nz/bus-train-ferry/journey-planner/.
And the OSM maps of the area _are_ good.



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"Ralph Fox" wrote

| Have you tried it? There's no public API as there is
| with the other services.

| The OP did not ask for a public API. The OP asked for a website
| with maps you can print.

He wants maps. He also wants privacy, which gets tricky
if you're at a website that requires script.

The page you
linked is blank for me, without script. Though they did
make sure that Google's grubby hands can still track you,
with a NOSCRIPT iframe.

But if OSM works for you, that's fine. It's a great idea, but
given a choice, privacy issues aside, I'd choose Bing maps
and Google streetview. When I checked out OSM samples
I just didn't think the maps were very good. More like
illustrations. And satellite?
Personally I find satellite and/or hybrid view is almost always
useful to look at when getting a map. If I'm driving I might
print out the map with route marked on it, but I'll
also look at satellite imagery so I have an idea of what the
destination looks like. OSM, with their volunteer system
that requires data be free, can only offer a potpourri of
limited options.

On 09/05/2019 15.01, Mayayana wrote:
"Ralph Fox" wrote

| Have you tried it? There's no public API as there is
| with the other services.

| The OP did not ask for a public API. The OP asked for a website
| with maps you can print.

He wants maps. He also wants privacy, which gets tricky
if you're at a website that requires script.

The page you
linked is blank for me, without script. Though they did
make sure that Google's grubby hands can still track you,
with a NOSCRIPT iframe.

But if OSM works for you, that's fine. It's a great idea, but
given a choice, privacy issues aside, I'd choose Bing maps
and Google streetview. When I checked out OSM samples
I just didn't think the maps were very good. More like
illustrations. And satellite?
Personally I find satellite and/or hybrid view is almost always
useful to look at when getting a map. If I'm driving I might
print out the map with route marked on it, but I'll
also look at satellite imagery so I have an idea of what the
destination looks like. OSM, with their volunteer system
that requires data be free, can only offer a potpourri of
limited options.

...data be free? What do yo mean?

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

"Carlos E. R." wrote
|
| ..data be free? What do yo mean?
|
That OSM only uses data/maps without licensing
restrictions. Isn't that true?

On 09/05/2019 22.53, Mayayana wrote:
"Carlos E. R." wrote
|
| ..data be free? What do yo mean?
|
That OSM only uses data/maps without licensing
restrictions. Isn't that true?

Ok, yes. I thought that you were saying that the maps could only be used
online, instead of downloading them in full.

But I don't see how the data/maps being free can be any restriction.

On my phone I use OsmAnd+ with downloaded maps. I use the pay version
with some paid plugin that allows me to see height curve lines and/or
height shades, based on SRTM (Shuttle Radar Topography Mission). Google
does not provide this data.

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

Ralph Fox wrote:
On Wed, 8 May 2019 21:14:35 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

OpenStreetMap itself is limited and poor quality.

Depends on the area. In mine, it is pretty good.

+1 -- In mine, too.

+1 In mine - The Netherlands - too.

And IME, the OSM maps are often better (than Google Maps, Tom Tom,
HERE, etc.) if you're in the 'boonies', for example rural/outback/
remote/whatever areas in Australia.

Also, OSM maps have many more categories of 'objects' than most of
these other maps, i.e. not just roads and buildings.

FWIW, in NL, Europe and AU, I use OSM as my main map source, with Tom
Tom and HERE as backups. On our just finished two-month trip in Oz, I
never ever needed the backups.

As always, YMMV/YMWV.

Irony alert: Note that 'we' use OSM *and* Gmail! :-)