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There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago
On 7/29/2019 10:48 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Blake wrote: The internet is only about 25 years old, Actually, about 50 years old. what existed then was barely usable. I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day I visited another scientist, and we had a question about something. He reached over to his Radio Shack computer (the model with the keyboard and monitor in the same cabinet) plugged in his acoustical modem, and set his telephone on it and we checked out database in Washington about 70 miles away. I was impressed with the speed, as I remember about 30 kb per sec. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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Paul wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Ant wrote: can't you cancel your posts? That's been pretty ineffective for years (decades?) The particular original post has a Cancel-Lock on it. https://web.archive.org/web/20151030....26_Cancel-Key Nur wenige Newsreader implementieren Cancel-Lock: Gnus slrn tin But by the time you figure it out, it's likely pretty ineffective. In a GUI menu, you have no assurance what method it is using. Paul No English version for that article? -- Quote of the Week: "I do not believe that the Great Society is the ordered, changeless and sterile battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming--always becoming, trying, probing, falling, resting and trying again--but always trying and always gaining. In each generation--with toil and tears--we have had to earn our heritage again." --Lyndon B. Johnson Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.ma.cx. Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail. | |o o| | \ _ / ( ) |
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There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: The internet is only about 25 years old, Actually, about 50 years old. what existed then was barely usable. From your point-of-view, it is unusable today. that's a stretch. https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar panet-map-1969.jpg Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is falsifying/rewriting history. More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#Early_Implementation a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982: https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html |
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In article , Keith Nuttle
wrote: The internet is only about 25 years old, Actually, about 50 years old. what existed then was barely usable. I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day I visited another scientist, and we had a question about something. He reached over to his Radio Shack computer (the model with the keyboard and monitor in the same cabinet) plugged in his acoustical modem, and set his telephone on it and we checked out database in Washington about 70 miles away. I was impressed with the speed, as I remember about 30 kb per sec. calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'. |
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Too bad many English speakers, like a troll on USENET, do not know
enough to use "will" instead of the horribly inefficient "is going to". Unfortunately, even Supreme Court Council do that. In their quick speech, they end up saying "gonna", making the problem obvious. There are some cases when that elongated phrase is useful, but more often a word like "will" is better. -- micky NONONOmisc07 bigfoot.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: micky NONONOmisc07 bigfoot.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:10:54 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 3 Message-ID: 74hujelrt67emjpktn3gv7cn0rjrgulocc 4ax.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="41759326ea5cb6e311012e361304cd7b"; logging-data="15408"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Fo3rUJciw00jh1tzf+7dw" Cancel-Lock: sha1:M22RveSnAeq2ojuzfrIjdmI9wnY= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:99404 There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago. It's going to require a big rat trap. |
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On 7/31/19 8:58 AM, John Doe wrote:
Too bad many English speakers, like a troll on USENET, do not know enough to use "will" instead of the horribly inefficient "is going to". Unfortunately, even Supreme Court Council do that. In their quick speech, they end up saying "gonna", or, even worse, "gunna" making the problem obvious. There are some cases when that elongated phrase is useful, but more often a word like "will" is better. -- "It is a farce to call any being virtuous whose virtues do not result from the exercise of its own reason." -- Mary Wollstonecraft |
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nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg wrote: The internet is only about 25 years old, Actually, about 50 years old. what existed then was barely usable. From your point-of-view, it is unusable today. that's a stretch. https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar panet-map-1969.jpg Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is falsifying/rewriting history. More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite#Early_Implementation a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982: https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html Yes, 1982 is probably more realistic. My (Wikipedia) reference mentioned 1978 under 'Early implementation', but indeed 1982 under 'Adoption'. So let's settle on "A bloody long time ago!" :-) |
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There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: The internet is only about 25 years old, Actually, about 50 years old. what existed then was barely usable. From your point-of-view, it is unusable today. that's a stretch. https://allthatsinteresting.com/word...ads/2015/10/ar panet-map-1969.jpg Not to mention that calling ARPANET "The internet" (note "The") is falsifying/rewriting history. More realistically, "The Internet" exists only after TCP/IP was implemented, i.e after 1978, i.e at most 41 years, not 50. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern..._Implementatio n a more detailed timeline, which lists tcp/ip at 1982: https://www.livescience.com/20727-internet-history.html Yes, 1982 is probably more realistic. My (Wikipedia) reference mentioned 1978 under 'Early implementation', but indeed 1982 under 'Adoption'. yep, but tcp/ip alone isn't enough. the various protocols appeared in the following years, such as 1985 for dns: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System ...the Domain Name System has been an essential component of the functionality of the Internet since 1985. So let's settle on "A bloody long time ago!" :-) yep. |
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nospam wrote:
calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'. It could be if he connected to an ISP with the acoustical connector, but it probably wasn't. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com |
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There is a 350 pound rat at Muddy Lago
In article , Tim Slattery
wrote: calling another system 70 miles away is not the 'internet'. It could be if he connected to an ISP with the acoustical connector, but it probably wasn't. there weren't isps in the early 1980s. https://www.computerhope.com/history/1989.htm The first ISP known as "The World" began servicing customers. In article , Keith Nuttle wrote: I remember my introduction to the "Internet". I was working in the civilian part of Ft Deitrick in Maryland in the early 1980's. One day |
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