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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts! o https://protonmail.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs o https://tutanota.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs o https://mail.yandex.com/ free?, no private info, IP logs? On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly viable _alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table. o Google keeps a log of all your electronic parts, brakes, tools, and automotive tires digital receipts emailed to your GMail account. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/V3kuohx1vf8/9zXep10TAQAJ On that post above, others were suggested, which I list here, but which failed my first-pass attempt, where, always, the extreme expense of freeware is always in the testing and choosing of the best ones, which is always best done as a group so that we end up with a global solution. o https://www.axigen.com/ mail & calendar, (business solution) o https://teksavvy.com/services/ seems to be an ISP??? o https://www.zoho.com/mail/ free, requires personal information o https://www.gmx.com/mail/ free, requires personal information, Also a "mail2web" mechanism was suggested, which I'm still a bit confused about as to how it could possibly replace Google Gmail functionality: o http://mail2web.com/ Where they apparently also use Horde, Roundcube, and Squirrelmail: o Horde webmail - full suite of feaures o Roundcube webmail - most populare - but with limited features o Squirrelmail webmail - limited functionality but easy to use (died 4/2018) In summary, this thread is asked to hone and define the best REPLACEMENTS to Gmail, which, offhand, I assume the goal would be the following: o Free, lots of storage, low spam, as little spying as possible Anything else? Do you have _other_ freeware Gmail replacement suggestions for the team? |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
On 5/19/19 PDT 7:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts! Lets not do so here. |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
"John McWilliams" wrote
| Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" | account - so all benefit from our efforts! | | Lets not do so here. Better yet, let's point out that there are very cheap email services and that one can get a domain and have their own email -- dozens of addresses -- managed by their host. Why does everything have to be free? People pay $4 for a cup of coffee but won't pay $2/month for honest, non-spyware email service. |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
Note the redirection after it posts to all of the groups...
-- John McWilliams jpmcw comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John McWilliams jpmcw comcast.net Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.fre eware,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts Followup-To: comp.mobile.android Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 19:46:25 -0700 Organization: Sept. all the time Lines: 5 Message-ID: qbt4e1$4lj$1 dont-email.me References: qbt32j$u5t$1 news.mixmin.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 02:46:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="66e24815b1f59238a052b0a9d5fda0fd"; logging-data="4787"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+gEQzHLuIuwBUCvu4urBymOCA9L/YlGGU=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ao7KwhuXmcCF+Mrvl0H7v1YvSpk= In-Reply-To: qbt32j$u5t$1 news.mixmin.net Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org misc.phone.mobile.iphone:121828 alt.os.linux:56600 alt.comp.freewa328209 alt.comp.os.windows-10:95013 On 5/19/19 PDT 7:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote: Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts! Lets not do so here. |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
On 20/05/2019 04.23, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts! Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha, good luck with that. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
On 20/05/2019 12.00, Libor Striz wrote:
"Carlos E.R." Wrote in message: Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha,good luck with that.-- Cheers, Carlos. Why luck ? You can use any POP3/IMAP4 account on an Android phone, using a 3rd party email client. Sure. *Only* for email. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
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Hash: SHA256 Carlos E.R. wrote: On 20/05/2019 12.00, Libor Striz wrote: "Carlos E.R." Wrote in message: Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha,good luck with that.-- Cheers, Carlos. Why luck ? You can use any POP3/IMAP4 account on an Android phone, using a 3rd party email client. Sure. *Only* for email. Indeed. It's a shame there aren't any good caldav clients / apps for android. But then again, https://my.site.tld/hordemail isn't exactly a pain to navigate to. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlziiE YACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooFt9Qf6AhnSU+EsuZtLFFpKuaHw/SK7kIJavWOmB/JiD4VTOSZMQdB44WYJEOY8 0EvZ07h2zswIaoMBB5aSxKlFSkJWolp7rFMYWlyBURLQzgf4UL TTTCKqvy2b8Sbu Z7oIWhztQ7Y0HDgZ7AEET1TQwiDfBuXgkh/oCVxptZSQQi0AHaJh68ufzM10Cp17 eXtBhYVT94Nq9++QoHywTBij6XnTj+7J1h6PuxDN9Uk6j5/pS2ovfTxzB5KiGNvI 57qL87R96Ks6dItCxjVMXf1JmFde7M4+qZq1IGCG6xPLovD6B8 wXLDEiZeMLeJrR KrfERyH04vo3f1zZuash28Zdy04y1g== =xv43 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 |
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"Arlen G. Holder" wrote in message ... Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts! o https://protonmail.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs o https://tutanota.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs o https://mail.yandex.com/ free?, no private info, IP logs? On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly viable _alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table. o Google keeps a log of all your electronic parts, brakes, tools, and automotive tires digital receipts emailed to your GMail account. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/V3kuohx1vf8/9zXep10TAQAJ On that post above, others were suggested, which I list here, but which failed my first-pass attempt, where, always, the extreme expense of freeware is always in the testing and choosing of the best ones, which is always best done as a group so that we end up with a global solution. o https://www.axigen.com/ mail & calendar, (business solution) o https://teksavvy.com/services/ seems to be an ISP??? o https://www.zoho.com/mail/ free, requires personal information o https://www.gmx.com/mail/ free, requires personal information, Also a "mail2web" mechanism was suggested, which I'm still a bit confused about as to how it could possibly replace Google Gmail functionality: o http://mail2web.com/ Where they apparently also use Horde, Roundcube, and Squirrelmail: o Horde webmail - full suite of feaures o Roundcube webmail - most populare - but with limited features o Squirrelmail webmail - limited functionality but easy to use (died 4/2018) In summary, this thread is asked to hone and define the best REPLACEMENTS to Gmail, which, offhand, I assume the goal would be the following: o Free, lots of storage, low spam, as little spying as possible Anything else? Do you have _other_ freeware Gmail replacement suggestions for the team? I've been using K-9 Mail on my Android devices for quite a while now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en_US The only permissions it seems to want are Contacts and Storage. The program itself is solid- no crashes or glitches that I've seen. -- SC Tom |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table. And since when did we turn into a team? |
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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
"Big Al" wrote in message ... On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote: On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table. And since when did we turn into a team? We WERE a tribe; now we've been demoted (?) to team ;-) |
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Hash: SHA256 SC Tom wrote: "Big Al" wrote in message ... On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote: On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table. And since when did we turn into a team? We WERE a tribe; now we've been demoted (?) to team ;-) Aww, and I was really enjoying the warpaint and loincloths -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEBcqaUD8uEzVNxUrujhHd8xJ5ooEFAlzikz EACgkQjhHd8xJ5 ooFuawf/XnWRPOogyPPRKU0lVjJXDCHn1wwBNV05Jr8RpeWVzfMsV1mpeJ IbTnlw m61kj4XaIyycp8u3LEV79qZGmicLrUFsURLSaKSJB2ICEjZqIe +8zF4r2HRqEGFX ZHNFcjBMeETGffe3EHatP+Zw3xIXbiKo2kXFKrHu0bAJBNnhox PFRrtmIiGKM2Id 3jMOQFDe2/Oz3tHgTAu3Ta96enhP1knewKTPKBc3nV/EP+PDI4bMDmEh3uWFv2rD JF1Dc4SzZLa64auMUWEhj2LH4z56RVWHtbgA1AlkkJCYyuAZbz 69lvMJplNDcMcT S3OugNX73RCZz/4RjNmkWgmZC7GzLA== =aXLF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 |
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"Carlos E.R." wrote
| Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha, | good luck with that. | My ladyfriend has an Android. I'm not sure she even knows her gmail address. They forced her to have one when she got the phone. Just another Google sleazeball move that was irrelevant to her. If I remember correctly her email program is called Nine. She's very happy with it. The program she had with the phone started complaining about security. She was frustrated. So I looked online for ideas. An hour later she had the new program and has been happy with that ever since. She uses her ISP address with IMAP, I think, then uses POP on her computer, so she always gets a copy of all email on her computer and all of it gets erased from the POP server, but she can send and receive on her phone as needed. |
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 10:58:18 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
It's a shame there aren't any good caldav clients / apps for android. Hi Dan Purgert, Since Usenet is a potluck, everyone brings what value they can. We go way back where you generally post one or two adult posts before instantly devolving into a whiny senseless child with nothing to offer. Nonetheless, I will "mirror" what I perceive to be your purposefully helpful comment by noting that there are free Android apps which do not require a CalDAV server, such as what I use, from F-Droid, where it was still free when I last downloaded it, which is the SimpleMobileTools calendar app, which imports/exports ICAL *.ics files with aplomb. https://www.simplemobiletools.com/ To be clear, I researched only a portion of this calendaring topic a while ago, where I note the Android & iOS-related threads below, where _my_ goal was to NOT put my calendar on the Internet, which is a different goal than you appear to have. Given that your goal is different, these threads may not help you as much as they help those who want to keep their calendar off the net - but there are caldav enabled apps in those lists, I believe. ANDROID: o Has anyone here ever set up a CalDAV server on Windows for use with Android CalDAV clients? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/52iSsFUQinE/AflgVrHVEAAJ IOS: o Does a free offline non-Internet calendar app exist for iOS that imports/exports ICS text files? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/OzUOmgJLmZs/Xzx9DMxnFAAJ NOTE: As of the last post, iOS appears to lack this free functionality. It appears you're making the observation that a good CalDAV client doesn't exist on Android - which is an interesting topic. Since those threads were seeking an _offline_ solution, I ran a quick search just now for you, Dan, to see if there are any good CalDAV clients on Android, where that quick search found this as the first hit: o CalDAV Clients/Android https://wiki.davical.org/index.php/CalDAV_Clients/Android Second hit: o CalDAV/CardDAV solution for Android https://www.davx5.com/ To your point, Dan, this third hit points to a supposedly simple Android CalDAV client - but it doesn't appear to be on Google Play anymore. o How to configure Caldav/Carddav on Android https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9272/2171/how-to-configure-caldavcarddav-on-android Hmmmm... even though I have no need for a CalDAV client at the moment (since I already have a working private LAN solution), it's _interesting_ your claim that Android doesn't have a viable CalDAV client. Searching on Google Play from my desktop, this pops up, althouth it's not a free app (which kills it's use for general purposes): o CalDAV-Sync, by dmfs GmbH https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dmfs.caldav.lib Here's another payware CalDAV & CardDAV client on Android o DAVx⁵ (DAVdroid) – CalDAV/CardDAV Client, by bitfire https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.bitfire.davdroid And another: o CalendarSync - CalDAV by Calendar/Task/Contact Sync Mobile https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icalparse Dunno if this works, but it appears to be free: o Caldav Sync Free Beta, by gege https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gege.caldavsyncadapter In summary, it's surprising if it's a fact that Android doesn't have a free CalDAV-enabled client - which I hope Dan Purgert (and others) can edify the rest of us on the status (since I don't use them). -- Dan Purgert: Please don't turn into an instant child in your response. This post was intended to be purposefully helpful; treat it as such. You're welcome to factually refute what I wrote as I don't claim to be an expert on Android CalDAV clients (since I don't use them). Just remember please - Usenet is a potluck to bring value in every post. |
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Mon, 20 May 2019 09:08:37 -0400, \
My ladyfriend has an Android. I'm not sure she even knows her gmail address. They forced her to have one when she got the phone. Just another Google sleazeball move that was irrelevant to her. Does your ladyfriend say yes to everything without even thinking about the question? You don't have to say yes when Google asks you to create an id when you set up a new Android phone. Many people just say no and the Android phone works just as well without the google id. Same with location services. Same with everything. Just say no. Nobody forces you to say yes. |
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 07:30:50 -0400, SC Tom wrote:
I've been using K-9 Mail on my Android devices for quite a while now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en_US The only permissions it seems to want are Contacts and Storage. The program itself is solid- no crashes or glitches that I've seen. Hi SC Tom, Thanks for that advice, where we have discussed GSF-free MUAs on the Android ng in the past, where K-9 is generally on the top of the list o GSF independent free, ad free, email programs for Android on Google Play https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/fQPHDg9VutI/8QhMreVoCwAJ Here's a list that I found, at that time, on the first pass, for example: o K-9 Mail, by K-9 Dog Walkers (GSF independent, no ads, free) o OpenMail (K-9 Fork), by Deepen Dhulla (GSF independent, no ads, free) o FairEmail, open source by Marcel Bokhorst (GSF independent, no ads, free) o ProfiMail Go, by Lonely Cat Games (GSF independent, no ads, free) o ReaganMail, by Reagan.com (GSF independent, no ads, free) o Squeaky Mail, K9 fork, by Adam Wasswerman (GSF independent, no ads, free) o Minimal Mail, by GomezGutierrezD, K9 fork (GSF independent, no ads, free) etc. However, the question is about the server service, not the "client". o What's the best free mail service that replaces Google altogether? -- NOTE: For non-Android afficianados, GSF stands for Google Services Framework, which is sort of a "net framework" of sorts, for Android, IMHO. |
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