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Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts



 
 
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Old May 20th 19, 03:23 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Arlen G. Holder
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts

Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts!
o https://protonmail.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs
o https://tutanota.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs
o https://mail.yandex.com/ free?, no private info, IP logs?

On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly
viable _alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to
explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team
benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table.
o Google keeps a log of all your electronic parts, brakes, tools, and
automotive tires digital receipts emailed to your GMail account.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/V3kuohx1vf8/9zXep10TAQAJ

On that post above, others were suggested, which I list here, but which
failed my first-pass attempt, where, always, the extreme expense of
freeware is always in the testing and choosing of the best ones, which is
always best done as a group so that we end up with a global solution.
o https://www.axigen.com/ mail & calendar, (business solution)
o https://teksavvy.com/services/ seems to be an ISP???
o https://www.zoho.com/mail/ free, requires personal information
o https://www.gmx.com/mail/ free, requires personal information,

Also a "mail2web" mechanism was suggested, which I'm still a bit confused
about as to how it could possibly replace Google Gmail functionality:
o http://mail2web.com/
Where they apparently also use Horde, Roundcube, and Squirrelmail:
o Horde webmail - full suite of feaures
o Roundcube webmail - most populare - but with limited features
o Squirrelmail webmail - limited functionality but easy to use (died 4/2018)

In summary, this thread is asked to hone and define the best REPLACEMENTS
to Gmail, which, offhand, I assume the goal would be the following:
o Free, lots of storage, low spam, as little spying as possible
Anything else?

Do you have _other_ freeware Gmail replacement suggestions for the team?
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Old May 20th 19, 03:46 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
John McWilliams
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts

On 5/19/19 PDT 7:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts!


Lets not do so here.
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Old May 20th 19, 04:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts

"John McWilliams" wrote

| Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google
"mail"
| account - so all benefit from our efforts!
|
| Lets not do so here.

Better yet, let's point out that there are very cheap
email services and that one can get a domain and have
their own email -- dozens of addresses -- managed by
their host. Why does everything have to be free? People
pay $4 for a cup of coffee but won't pay $2/month for
honest, non-spyware email service.



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Old May 20th 19, 06:15 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,free.spam
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Note the redirection after it posts to all of the groups...

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On 5/19/19 PDT 7:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts!


Lets not do so here.


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Old May 20th 19, 10:37 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts

On 20/05/2019 04.23, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts!


Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha,
good luck with that.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #6  
Old May 20th 19, 11:18 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 20/05/2019 12.00, Libor Striz wrote:
"Carlos E.R." Wrote in message:

Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha,good luck with that.-- Cheers, Carlos.


Why luck ?
You can use any POP3/IMAP4 account on an Android phone,
using a 3rd party email client.


Sure. *Only* for email.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #7  
Old May 20th 19, 11:58 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 20/05/2019 12.00, Libor Striz wrote:
"Carlos E.R." Wrote in message:

Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail?
Ha,good luck with that.-- Cheers, Carlos.


Why luck ?
You can use any POP3/IMAP4 account on an Android phone,
using a 3rd party email client.


Sure. *Only* for email.


Indeed.

It's a shame there aren't any good caldav clients / apps for android.
But then again, https://my.site.tld/hordemail isn't exactly a pain to
navigate to.


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Old May 20th 19, 12:30 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts



"Arlen G. Holder" wrote in message
...
Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail"
account - so all benefit from our efforts!
o https://protonmail.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs
o https://tutanota.com/ free, no private information, no IP logs
o https://mail.yandex.com/ free?, no private info, IP logs?

On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly
viable _alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to
explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team
benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table.
o Google keeps a log of all your electronic parts, brakes, tools, and
automotive tires digital receipts emailed to your GMail account.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/V3kuohx1vf8/9zXep10TAQAJ

On that post above, others were suggested, which I list here, but which
failed my first-pass attempt, where, always, the extreme expense of
freeware is always in the testing and choosing of the best ones, which is
always best done as a group so that we end up with a global solution.
o https://www.axigen.com/ mail & calendar, (business solution)
o https://teksavvy.com/services/ seems to be an ISP???
o https://www.zoho.com/mail/ free, requires personal information
o https://www.gmx.com/mail/ free, requires personal information,

Also a "mail2web" mechanism was suggested, which I'm still a bit confused
about as to how it could possibly replace Google Gmail functionality:
o http://mail2web.com/
Where they apparently also use Horde, Roundcube, and Squirrelmail:
o Horde webmail - full suite of feaures
o Roundcube webmail - most populare - but with limited features
o Squirrelmail webmail - limited functionality but easy to use (died
4/2018)

In summary, this thread is asked to hone and define the best REPLACEMENTS
to Gmail, which, offhand, I assume the goal would be the following:
o Free, lots of storage, low spam, as little spying as possible
Anything else?

Do you have _other_ freeware Gmail replacement suggestions for the team?


I've been using K-9 Mail on my Android devices for quite a while now:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en_US

The only permissions it seems to want are Contacts and Storage. The program
itself is solid- no crashes or glitches that I've seen.
--

SC Tom


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Old May 20th 19, 12:32 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS forGoogle "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts

On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly
viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to
explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team
benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table.


And since when did we turn into a team?

  #10  
Old May 20th 19, 12:35 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Big Al" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly
viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to
explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team
benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table.


And since when did we turn into a team?


We WERE a tribe; now we've been demoted (?) to team ;-)


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Old May 20th 19, 12:44 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dan Purgert
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"Big Al" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/19 10:23 PM, Arlen G. Holder wrote:
On the home repair ng, Clare Synyder & rbowman kindly suggested perfectly
viable_alternatives_ to a free Google Gmail account, which I'd like to
explore for the team - with the help of the team - so that the team
benefits (as do I) from the information we jointly bring to the table.


And since when did we turn into a team?


We WERE a tribe; now we've been demoted (?) to team ;-)


Aww, and I was really enjoying the warpaint and loincloths


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Old May 20th 19, 02:08 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Carlos E.R." wrote

| Replacement as in Android phones will use that instead of Gmail? Ha,
| good luck with that.
|

My ladyfriend has an Android. I'm not sure she even knows
her gmail address. They forced her to have one when she got
the phone. Just another Google sleazeball move that was
irrelevant to her.

If I remember correctly her email program is called
Nine. She's very happy with it. The program she had with the
phone started complaining about security. She was frustrated.
So I looked online for ideas. An hour later she had the new
program and has been happy with that ever since. She uses
her ISP address with IMAP, I think, then uses POP on her
computer, so she always gets a copy of all email on her
computer and all of it gets erased from the POP server, but
she can send and receive on her phone as needed.


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Old May 20th 19, 03:16 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 10:58:18 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:

It's a shame there aren't any good caldav clients / apps for android.


Hi Dan Purgert,

Since Usenet is a potluck, everyone brings what value they can.

We go way back where you generally post one or two adult posts before
instantly devolving into a whiny senseless child with nothing to offer.

Nonetheless, I will "mirror" what I perceive to be your purposefully
helpful comment by noting that there are free Android apps which do not
require a CalDAV server, such as what I use, from F-Droid, where it
was still free when I last downloaded it, which is the SimpleMobileTools
calendar app, which imports/exports ICAL *.ics files with aplomb.
https://www.simplemobiletools.com/

To be clear, I researched only a portion of this calendaring topic a while
ago, where I note the Android & iOS-related threads below, where _my_
goal was to NOT put my calendar on the Internet, which is a different
goal than you appear to have.

Given that your goal is different, these threads may not help you
as much as they help those who want to keep their calendar off the
net - but there are caldav enabled apps in those lists, I believe.

ANDROID:
o Has anyone here ever set up a CalDAV server on Windows for use with Android CalDAV clients?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/52iSsFUQinE/AflgVrHVEAAJ

IOS:
o Does a free offline non-Internet calendar app exist for iOS that imports/exports ICS text files?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/OzUOmgJLmZs/Xzx9DMxnFAAJ
NOTE: As of the last post, iOS appears to lack this free functionality.

It appears you're making the observation that a good CalDAV
client doesn't exist on Android - which is an interesting topic.

Since those threads were seeking an _offline_ solution, I ran a
quick search just now for you, Dan, to see if there are any good
CalDAV clients on Android, where that quick search found this as
the first hit:
o CalDAV Clients/Android
https://wiki.davical.org/index.php/CalDAV_Clients/Android

Second hit:
o CalDAV/CardDAV solution for Android
https://www.davx5.com/

To your point, Dan, this third hit points to a supposedly simple
Android CalDAV client - but it doesn't appear to be on Google Play anymore.
o How to configure Caldav/Carddav on Android
https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9272/2171/how-to-configure-caldavcarddav-on-android

Hmmmm... even though I have no need for a CalDAV client at the
moment (since I already have a working private LAN solution),
it's _interesting_ your claim that Android doesn't have a viable
CalDAV client.

Searching on Google Play from my desktop, this pops up, althouth
it's not a free app (which kills it's use for general purposes):
o CalDAV-Sync, by dmfs GmbH
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dmfs.caldav.lib

Here's another payware CalDAV & CardDAV client on Android
o DAVx⁵ (DAVdroid) – CalDAV/CardDAV Client, by bitfire
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.bitfire.davdroid

And another:
o CalendarSync - CalDAV by Calendar/Task/Contact Sync Mobile
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.icalparse

Dunno if this works, but it appears to be free:
o Caldav Sync Free Beta, by gege
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gege.caldavsyncadapter

In summary, it's surprising if it's a fact that Android doesn't have
a free CalDAV-enabled client - which I hope Dan Purgert (and others)
can edify the rest of us on the status (since I don't use them).

--
Dan Purgert: Please don't turn into an instant child in your response.
This post was intended to be purposefully helpful; treat it as such.
You're welcome to factually refute what I wrote as I don't claim to be
an expert on Android CalDAV clients (since I don't use them).
Just remember please - Usenet is a potluck to bring value in every post.
  #14  
Old May 20th 19, 06:48 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mon, 20 May 2019 09:08:37 -0400, \
My ladyfriend has an Android. I'm not sure she even knows
her gmail address. They forced her to have one when she got
the phone. Just another Google sleazeball move that was
irrelevant to her.


Does your ladyfriend say yes to everything without even thinking about the question?
You don't have to say yes when Google asks you to create an id when you set up a new Android phone.
Many people just say no and the Android phone works just as well without the google id.
Same with location services.
Same with everything.
Just say no.

Nobody forces you to say yes.
  #15  
Old May 20th 19, 07:32 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 07:30:50 -0400, SC Tom wrote:

I've been using K-9 Mail on my Android devices for quite a while now:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en_US

The only permissions it seems to want are Contacts and Storage. The program
itself is solid- no crashes or glitches that I've seen.


Hi SC Tom,

Thanks for that advice, where we have discussed GSF-free MUAs on the
Android ng in the past, where K-9 is generally on the top of the list
o GSF independent free, ad free, email programs for Android on Google Play
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/fQPHDg9VutI/8QhMreVoCwAJ

Here's a list that I found, at that time, on the first pass, for example:
o K-9 Mail, by K-9 Dog Walkers (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o OpenMail (K-9 Fork), by Deepen Dhulla (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o FairEmail, open source by Marcel Bokhorst (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o ProfiMail Go, by Lonely Cat Games (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o ReaganMail, by Reagan.com (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o Squeaky Mail, K9 fork, by Adam Wasswerman (GSF independent, no ads, free)
o Minimal Mail, by GomezGutierrezD, K9 fork (GSF independent, no ads, free)
etc.

However, the question is about the server service, not the "client".
o What's the best free mail service that replaces Google altogether?

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