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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
Hello,
I have the following problem that I can't solve: I have win10 Pro virtual machines on a VMware vSphere infrastructure. Most of them work perfectly. On a couple of these VMs, the boot process takes even more than an hour to complete and make the vm available; It remains in this state https://www.screencast.com/t/TTzh0vsS6WR5 when the vm is available to the user, all the applications work and respond correctly. I've already checked malware, viruses, etc. and the system is clean. I have disabled everything possible, but still not understand the cause of the problem. Someone can give me some advice, without having to make a new VM from scratch ? Thanks in advance Best regards Davide |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
dadep wrote:
Hello, I have the following problem that I can't solve: I have win10 Pro virtual machines on a VMware vSphere infrastructure. Most of them work perfectly. On a couple of these VMs, the boot process takes even more than an hour to complete and make the vm available; It remains in this state https://www.screencast.com/t/TTzh0vsS6WR5 when the vm is available to the user, all the applications work and respond correctly. I've already checked malware, viruses, etc. and the system is clean. I have disabled everything possible, but still not understand the cause of the problem. Someone can give me some advice, without having to make a new VM from scratch ? Thanks in advance Best regards Davide There is Windows Performance Toolkit. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ess-exercise-2 You could capture a boot trace with it, and see where it spends time. The trace file could be rather large though. If it takes that long to start, the trace could be 10GB or more. https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...ance-recorder/ You might want to practice first, on a well-working installation, just to become familiar with operation. I found the toolkit a bit bloated, and used xbootmgr.exe to collect a trace. But who knows today, how it is improved. The download for this, is a stub downloader which has the ability to download gigabytes of stuff. The performance toolkit part, should be a ~200 megabytes. You don't need to tick all the boxes. For me, the hardest part was figuring out which version to grab, before doing any work. I needed a version that still had xbootmgr (which was a Windows 8 version at the time). This is a previous post with a few pictures. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E If you select the wrong options in WPA, a "machine analysis" might consist of six reboots. Even on well-working hardware it might take 2 hours to run the whole thing. I think that's why I might have been using xbootmgr at the time, because it kicks off one run. Sysinternals.com ProcMon also has an option for boot tracing, but the viewing later probably wouldn't be all that helpful in a case like this. But if Windows Performance Toolkit was too annoying to use, that would be a second option. With that kind of boot duration, my guess would be it's doing a CHKDSK where every sector is being read. Even if a mapped disk mount had gone missing, the resolution time for that might be five minutes, not an hour. Paul |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On 28/06/2019 15:17, Paul wrote:
There is Windows Performance Toolkit. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ess-exercise-2 [CUT] With that kind of boot duration, my guess would be it's doing a CHKDSK where every sector is being read. Even if a mapped disk mount had gone missing, the resolution time for that might be five minutes, not an hour. Paul Thank you so much Paul, next week I will try. |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On 28/06/2019 11:10, dadep wrote:
Someone can give me some advice, without having to make a new VM from scratch ? just get rid of VM. Windows 10 is designed to run on a normal machine that meets the minimum specification requirement of the hardware. Why do you have to use Windows 10 on VM. If you want to use and try Windows 10 then use it normally like everybody. If you don't trust Windows 10 or if you are unsure of your ability to use Windows 10 then DON'T USE IT. There are many alternatives. I assume your main machine is using some crap OS. ciao. Path: aioe.org!.POSTED.eZxecCqDHMs9L0pP74BTZw.user.gioia .aioe.org!not-for-mail From: dadep Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:10:23 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: eZxecCqDHMs9L0pP74BTZw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://nntp.aioe.org:119 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 Xref: aioe.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:94337 -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On 6/28/2019 6:10 PM, dadep wrote:
Hello, I have the following problem that I can't solve: I have win10 Pro virtual machines on a VMware vSphere infrastructure. Most of them work perfectly. On a couple of these VMs, the boot process takes even more than an hour to complete and make the vm available; It remains in this state https://www.screencast.com/t/TTzh0vsS6WR5 when the vm is available to the user, all the applications work and respond correctly.... Win 10 Pro has Hyper-V! Wanna switch over? -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 Ā¤Ā£Ā*ĆĀ¶U! Ā¤Ā£Ā¶BĆF! Ā¤Ā£Ā½Ć¤ĀæĆŗ! Ā¤Ā£Ā“Ā©Ā„Ʀ! Ā¤Ā£Ā„Ā“Ā„Ʀ! Ā¤Ā£Ā„Ā“Ā§T! Ā¤Ā£Ā¦ĆĀ±Ć¾! Ā¤Ā£ĀØDĀÆĀ«! Ā½ĆĀ¦ĆĀ¼{ĀŗĆ®Ā“Ā© (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:21:36 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote: just get rid of VM. Windows 10 is designed to run on a normal machine that meets the minimum specification requirement of the hardware. Tell Microsoft, that you know better than them: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...rtual-machines Get a Windows 10 development environment Start building Universal Windows Platform apps quickly using a virtual machine. (...) |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On 28/06/2019 18:15, Michael Logies wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:21:36 +0100, ? Good Guy ? wrote: just get rid of VM. Windows 10 is designed to run on a normal machine that meets the minimum specification requirement of the hardware. Tell Microsoft, that you know better than them: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...rtual-machines Get a Windows 10 development environment Start building Universal Windows Platform apps quickly using a virtual machine. (...) The op is running VM in a production environment. He says: " Most of them work perfectly." So by definition one or two don't. So my suggestion is to stop using VM in a production environment because I know better than you do. Is this clear now? Path: aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Michael Logies Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 19:15:37 +0200 Organization: Michael Logies, Zahnarzt, D-49134 Wallenhorst Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 52CIxq1fzofHX3/cm3sy0QsCCzKuYGGlJq5T4ieBt0tCP+yyCl Cancel-Lock: sha1:hQ+S7ql68/iiUpeRACwNzOTjrS0= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: aioe.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:94348 -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:14:49 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote: On 28/06/2019 18:15, Michael Logies wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:21:36 +0100, ? Good Guy ? wrote: just get rid of VM. Windows 10 is designed to run on a normal machine that meets the minimum specification requirement of the hardware. Tell Microsoft, that you know better than them: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...rtual-machines Get a Windows 10 development environment Start building Universal Windows Platform apps quickly using a virtual machine. (...) The op is running VM in a production environment. He says: " Most of them work perfectly." So by definition one or two don't. So my suggestion is to stop using VM in a production environment because I know better than you do. Is this clear now? Okay, so development is no production environment? I`m using VMs in my production environment for 10 years. But perhaps a dental clinic is no production environment, too? Regards M. |
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Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM
On 29/06/2019 09:31, Michael Logies wrote:
Okay, so development is no production environment? No it's not. I suggest do a research into these terms. I`m using VMs in my production environment for 10 years. But perhaps a dental clinic is no production environment, too? If you have been using it for 10 years then you don't know what you are doing. Windows is supposed to be installed and all all windows programs (good ones that are not portable) installed as well. VM is for people who wants to try Windows or patches or upgrades before committing it to the production environment. Also, there are people who wants to use Windows but they don't want to buy a license for it so they resort to VM and after 30 days when it has expired, they wipe it and start again. these are people who are hobbyists, jobless and bunch of nutters. Do come into that category?. Dentists seems to have easy revenue stream, is this so? In United Kingdom dentists keep giving useless services such as instructions how to look after ones teeth and all that nonsense which should be taught in schools and by parents but dentists found a way to charge customers for these services. Then they keep making countless bookings so that they can charge every time they make an appointment. Frankly I'm fed up of these crooks and rogue dentists and doctors. Path: aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Michael Logies Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Issue with boot process on Win10 Pro VM Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 10:31:35 +0200 Organization: Michael Logies, Zahnarzt, D-49134 Wallenhorst Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net DbGw8LgpaATHBzOTSZ+C6w3vUXZpP1u/hmWvkMYuM5u7vAxuKL Cancel-Lock: sha1:jOWvW0y7MdFK9OOH1nIYpKFOMag= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: aioe.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:94381 -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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