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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2 80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


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"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one IN
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Agree - 1 in - 1 out.

"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


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River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say

shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises?? I have an intake located at
the near the front bottom and a exhaust located in the rear top and also a
side exhaust fan.

My system temp is always around 28 degrees Celsius. Also have a 120mm PSU
fan.
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"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises

With the Power Supply fan blowing in at the top 1 80mm fan blowing in at the
top 1 80mm fan blowing in on the side there isn't going to be chance for the
law of physics to come into play.

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"WTC" wrote in message
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fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say

shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises?? I have an intake located at
the near the front bottom and a exhaust located in the rear top and also a
side exhaust fan.

My system temp is always around 28 degrees Celsius. Also have a 120mm PSU
fan.
--
William


"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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Most power supplies blow the heat out the back. What make is your power
supply ?

"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises

With the Power Supply fan blowing in at the top 1 80mm fan blowing in at
the
top 1 80mm fan blowing in on the side there isn't going to be chance for
the
law of physics to come into play.

--
Good Day
River Rat




"WTC" wrote in message
...
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say

shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises?? I have an intake located
at
the near the front bottom and a exhaust located in the rear top and also
a
side exhaust fan.

My system temp is always around 28 degrees Celsius. Also have a 120mm PSU
fan.
--
William


"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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It's a Vantec 520W.

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"RonK" wrote in message
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Most power supplies blow the heat out the back. What make is your power
supply ?

"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises

With the Power Supply fan blowing in at the top 1 80mm fan blowing in at
the
top 1 80mm fan blowing in on the side there isn't going to be chance for
the
law of physics to come into play.

--
Good Day
River Rat




"WTC" wrote in message
...
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say

shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises?? I have an intake located
at
the near the front bottom and a exhaust located in the rear top and also
a
side exhaust fan.

My system temp is always around 28 degrees Celsius. Also have a 120mm PSU
fan.
--
William


"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
...
Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

--
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River_Rat wrote:
shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises

With the Power Supply fan blowing in at the top 1 80mm fan blowing in at the
top 1 80mm fan blowing in on the side there isn't going to be chance for the
law of physics to come into play.


Gee, if the laws of physics don't come into play, how does your case get
cooled?

Looking at the Vantec website .....all 3 fans blow hot air out of the case none
of the fans on the PSU blow in.
peter
"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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It's a Vantec 520W.

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River Rat




"RonK" wrote in message
...
Most power supplies blow the heat out the back. What make is your power
supply ?

"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises

With the Power Supply fan blowing in at the top 1 80mm fan blowing in at
the
top 1 80mm fan blowing in on the side there isn't going to be chance for
the
law of physics to come into play.

--
Good Day
River Rat




"WTC" wrote in message
...
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say

shouldn't this be at the top since heat rises?? I have an intake located
at
the near the front bottom and a exhaust located in the rear top and also
a
side exhaust fan.

My system temp is always around 28 degrees Celsius. Also have a 120mm PSU
fan.
--
William


"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
...
Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

--
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Yes, I wandered around the Intel site until I got thoroughly confused with
data. It starts with "processor zone 2 is board dependant" and then points
of to the beginning again. I sent them some email with only computer
responses. I guess they don't care about my business that much.

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"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
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Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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I believe Processor 1 = Northbridge, and Processor 2 = Southbridge if that
helps.

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"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
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Yes, I wandered around the Intel site until I got thoroughly confused with
data. It starts with "processor zone 2 is board dependant" and then points
of to the beginning again. I sent them some email with only computer
responses. I guess they don't care about my business that much.

--
____________________________________
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Microsoft MVP
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"River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
...
Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT?
I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject. I myself run 2
80mm
fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in the bottom. I say
that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1 out.

What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm


--
Good Day
River Rat




"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message
...
Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN
and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

--
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I have the Intel Acvtive Monitor on my computer (D845GBVL)
and it reports Processor Zone and System Zone
Temperature Sensor Variations


Processor
The processor zone temperature sensor gauge is designed to
provide you with an approximate temperature range for your
processor, so that unusually high temperatures can be
quickly and easily detected. In the event of a processor
zone temperature alert, refer to Alert Response. It will
provide recommendations for resolving the alert, such as,
making sure your fans are working properly, etc.
The processor zone temperature measurement is approximate
and should not be used to validate thermal solutions. The
processor temperature that Intel(R) Active Monitor displays
is read from a hardware monitor ASIC on your motherboard,
which is designed to indicate temperature trends only. If
you are a system manufacturer or a system designer and you
require a more accurate temperature measurement, you will
need to use a more sophisticated measurement device. For
more information on hardware monitoring for Intel(R) Desktop
Boards or the Wired for Management initiative, visit our
developer Web site.


System
The system zone sensor gauge is designed to provide you with
an approximate temperature range for your system, so that
unusually high temperatures can be quickly and easily
detected. In the event of a system zone temperature alert,
refer to Alert Response. It will provide recommendations
for resolving the alert, such as, making sure your fans are
working properly, etc.
The system zone temperature measurement is approximate, and
should not be used to validate thermal solutions. The
system temperature that Intel Active Monitor displays is
read from a hardware monitor ASIC on your motherboard, which
is designed to indicate temperature trends only. If you are
a system manufacturer or a system designer and you require a
more accurate temperature measurement, you will need to use
a more sophisticated measurement device. For more
information on hardware monitoring for Intel Desktop Boards
or the Wired for Management initiative, visit our developer
Web site.




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"WTC" wrote in message
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|I believe Processor 1 = Northbridge, and Processor 2 =
Southbridge if that
| helps.
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| William
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| "William (Bill) Vaughn"
wrote in message
| ...
| Yes, I wandered around the Intel site until I got
thoroughly confused with
| data. It starts with "processor zone 2 is board
dependant" and then points
| of to the beginning again. I sent them some email with
only computer
| responses. I guess they don't care about my business
that much.
|
| --
| ____________________________________
| William (Bill) Vaughn
| Author, Mentor, Consultant
| Microsoft MVP
| www.betav.com
| Please reply only to the newsgroup so that others can
benefit.
| This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no
| rights.
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| "River_Rat" nospam@nospam wrote in message
| ...
| Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other
OUT?
| I figure you will get lots of opinions on this subject.
I myself run 2
| 80mm
| fans pulling air in with a Exhaust Slot Fan mounted in
the bottom. I say
| that you need some kind of exhaust so point 1 in and 1
out.
|
| What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?
|
| I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
|
http://support.intel.com/support/mot.../CS-012552.htm
|
|
| --
| Good Day
| River Rat
|
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| "William (Bill) Vaughn"
wrote in message
| ...
| Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both
point OUT or one
| IN
| and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an
Intel motherboard?
|
| --
| ____________________________________
| William (Bill) Vaughn
| Author, Mentor, Consultant
| Microsoft MVP
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Depends on where the fans are located, AND how many holes in the case.
Cold in at the bottom, Hot out at the top. Take it from there based on
your configuration.

William (Bill) Vaughn wrote:

Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one
IN and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?


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Front / bottom fans -- blow cool air in
Back / top fans -- blow hot (warm) air out


Since hot air rises, the fans blowing out should always be higher up in your case.
"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message ...
Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

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Thanks all. I found the problem. The "fancy" CPU heat sync (ATT HPS-P4) sold me by Fry's was not up to the heat load generated by the P4 3.2. Once I installed the Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu the whole system cooled down dramatically and stabilized to a reasonable temperature--even at full load. The system now keeps my feet nice and toasty on a cold winter day. The fans also slowed down so none of them are running full tilt (which makes the system quieter). I also found an Intel site that showed where the "zones" were located.

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"Yves Leclerc" wrote in message ...
Front / bottom fans -- blow cool air in
Back / top fans -- blow hot (warm) air out


Since hot air rises, the fans blowing out should always be higher up in your case.
"William (Bill) Vaughn" wrote in message ...
Anyone seen a good whitepaper on fans? Should they both point OUT or one IN and the other OUT? What is "processor Zone 2" in an Intel motherboard?

--
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