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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
Will this madness never end?
http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/ Regards, -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo No Keyboard Error, Press F1 to continue... |
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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end? http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/ Regards, MSFT announced this in May 2015 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...to-windows-10/ Candy Crush was not installed on my two devices after installing the latest 1511 update (10586.71) nor was it offered when updating the devices for the Store provided apps. No other intervention taken to prevent it(e.g. registry tweak etc.) -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end? http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/ Regards, Yikes! I checked my Insider (Pro) copy, and there is no CloudContent. I wonder if this is just a "Home" feature ? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\CloudContent DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures 32-bit DWORD, set to 1 Paul |
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On 1/30/2016 1:39 AM, ...winston‫ wrote:
B00ze wrote: Will this madness never end? http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/ Regards, MSFT announced this in May 2015 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...to-windows-10/ Candy Crush was not installed on my two devices after installing the latest 1511 update (10586.71) nor was it offered when updating the devices for the Store provided apps. No other intervention taken to prevent it(e.g. registry tweak etc.) Will these new MS games be like others from MS and download all types of advertisements as you play. While I can stop the ads by turning off the LAN connection before I start the game it is just one unnecessary step to play the game. |
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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote: Will this madness never end? http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/ Regards, Yikes! I checked my Insider (Pro) copy, and there is no CloudContent. I wonder if this is just a "Home" feature ? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\CloudContent DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures 32-bit DWORD, set to 1 Paul No CloudContent key on this Win10 Home device(Surface 3 - Win10 Home is the as-delivered o/s). No Candy Crush present prior to or after latest cumulative update) Possibly OEM related ? -- ....winston |
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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:
Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. |
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In message , Big Bad Bob
writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. -- Bill |
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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that upgraded to Win10. I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean installing. Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to 'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM. -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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In message , =?UTF-8?Q?...
winston=e2=80=ab?= writes Bill wrote: In message , Big Bad Bob writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that upgraded to Win10. I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean installing. Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to 'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM. Ok, maybe. But that makes my point. The small businesses that I help round here have each bought a set of Acer or Lenovo machines when they upgraded their networks from XP to Windows 7. They will have had and used the OEM licences. I'm keeping my head down because I am worried that one or all of the machines at any site might inadvertently get updated to Windows 10. At least one of the sites uses specialist software where the business owner and I had to track down the writer to sort out the changes needed to make it work after the transition to W7. I'm actually amazed that you have that number of machines without an OEM licence. Doesn't a Surface have an OEM licence by default? -- Bill |
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"...winston?" wrote in message ... Bill wrote: In message , Big Bad Bob writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that upgraded to Win10. I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean installing. Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to 'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM. I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-) I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64 preinstalled, was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has Win10Pro x64 (also 10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or Minecraft. Go figure; my non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-) On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked "Uninstall." Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the pipe :-( -- SC Tom |
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Windows 10 installs "promoted" apps Automatically
Bill wrote:
In message , =?UTF-8?Q?... winston=e2=80=ab?= writes Bill wrote: In message , Big Bad Bob writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that upgraded to Win10. I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean installing. Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to 'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM. Ok, maybe. But that makes my point. The small businesses that I help round here have each bought a set of Acer or Lenovo machines when they upgraded their networks from XP to Windows 7. They will have had and used the OEM licences. I'm keeping my head down because I am worried that one or all of the machines at any site might inadvertently get updated to Windows 10. At least one of the sites uses specialist software where the business owner and I had to track down the writer to sort out the changes needed to make it work after the transition to W7. I'm actually amazed that you have that number of machines without an OEM licence. Doesn't a Surface have an OEM licence by default? If they're on a Domain, that's supposed to prevent upgrade. Any computers that are locked down by an IT department, they're not supposed to be "victims". Apparently Microsoft doesn't want to **** off the paying Enterprise customers. Otherwise, you could use a third party control tool. http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html The third-party tools have at their root, the usage of a couple of Registry entries. That part should not be a surprise. But what else a tool like that does, is check multiple times a day that the setting has not been changed. While the behavior on the surface may appear to be "linear", there are too many reports of strange behavior to trust a one-time IT guy Reg change as a complete solution. So I'd have to recommend a tool like that, because the designer is "watching, and listening to user input", gets the strange reports about hijacks, and he acts accordingly to redesign the thing and keep the control up-to-date. Initially, I would have said "change these two registry entries, and you're done". But it doesn't work that way in practice. Probably every time that Windows Update runs, there is an opportunity for a hijack, reset of Registry entries or whatever. Paul |
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SC Tom wrote:
I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-) My suspicion, is they're doing A/B comparison testing. Not everyone gets the pushed stuff. To see how many people perhaps "test" the Candy Crush or at least open it. To get some idea of the level of market penetration by the method. And your response, of removing it, will probably also be logged for analysis. As a measure of how many people who are clever enough to "deal with the issue". Now, what would be interesting, is if they put it *back* on your machine. That would be funny. Then the **** will hit the fan. And I can see that happening, say, after the next OS upgrade cycle... Paul |
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On 02/02/2016 19:21, Paul wrote:
SC Tom wrote: I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-) My suspicion, is they're doing A/B comparison testing. Not everyone gets the pushed stuff. I unistalled anything Candy Crush, but I still have Candy Crush Saga and Candy Crush Soda Saga on top of My Games list in Windows Store. Any chance I can remove them from the list too? To see how many people perhaps "test" the Candy Crush or at least open it. To get some idea of the level of market penetration by the method. And your response, of removing it, will probably also be logged for analysis. As a measure of how many people who are clever enough to "deal with the issue". Now, what would be interesting, is if they put it *back* on your machine. That would be funny. Lots of "fun" like that on Android, already Then the **** will hit the fan. And I can see that happening, say, after the next OS upgrade cycle... |
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In message , SC Tom writes
I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64 preinstalled, was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has Win10Pro x64 (also 10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or Minecraft. Go figure; my non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-) On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked "Uninstall." Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the pipe :-( Here, I have right clicked the Candy Crush tile and uninstalled it, but the only options offered with Minecraft are to "Unpin from start" or "Turn live tile off". A search of the C partition fore Minecraft brings up no results and there is nothing like it in All Apps, so what is this tile? All this experience has done is to make me realise that I haven't a clue about what these Live Tiles actually are, where they are stored and so on. -- Bill |
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SC Tom wrote:
"...winston?" wrote in message ... Bill wrote: In message , Big Bad Bob writes On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped: Possibly OEM related ? I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What, what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following the arrogance. perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and various other intrusions]. I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks. I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login. It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu. If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but left them there. I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have upgraded without thinking. If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense. Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that upgraded to Win10. I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean installing. Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to 'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM. I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-) I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64 preinstalled, was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has Win10Pro x64 (also 10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or Minecraft. Go figure; my non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-) On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked "Uninstall." Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the pipe :-( Probably all that telemetry they collected from your device. -- ....winston msft mvp windows experience |
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