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Old January 30th 16, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Will this madness never end?

http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/

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Old January 30th 16, 06:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end?

http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/


Regards,


MSFT announced this in May 2015

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...to-windows-10/


Candy Crush was not installed on my two devices after installing the
latest 1511 update (10586.71) nor was it offered when updating the
devices for the Store provided apps. No other intervention taken to
prevent it(e.g. registry tweak etc.)

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  #3  
Old January 30th 16, 06:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end?

http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/

Regards,


Yikes!

I checked my Insider (Pro) copy, and there is no CloudContent.
I wonder if this is just a "Home" feature ?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\CloudContent
DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures 32-bit DWORD, set to 1

Paul
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Old January 30th 16, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/30/2016 1:39 AM, ...winston‫ wrote:
B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end?

http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/



Regards,


MSFT announced this in May 2015

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...to-windows-10/


Candy Crush was not installed on my two devices after installing the
latest 1511 update (10586.71) nor was it offered when updating the
devices for the Store provided apps. No other intervention taken to
prevent it(e.g. registry tweak etc.)

Will these new MS games be like others from MS and download all types of
advertisements as you play.

While I can stop the ads by turning off the LAN connection before I
start the game it is just one unnecessary step to play the game.
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Old January 30th 16, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote:
B00ze wrote:
Will this madness never end?

http://winaero.com/blog/fix-windows-...automatically/

Regards,


Yikes!

I checked my Insider (Pro) copy, and there is no CloudContent.
I wonder if this is just a "Home" feature ?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\CloudContent
DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures 32-bit DWORD, set to 1

Paul

No CloudContent key on this Win10 Home device(Surface 3 - Win10 Home is
the as-delivered o/s). No Candy Crush present prior to or after latest
cumulative update)

Possibly OEM related ?

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  #6  
Old February 1st 16, 08:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

  #7  
Old February 1st 16, 05:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's
disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.
--
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  #8  
Old February 1st 16, 10:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
...winston‫
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Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.


Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device
that upgraded to Win10.

I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface,
2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had
any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean
installing.

Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to
'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying
o/s, if OEM, as OEM.

--
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  #9  
Old February 1st 16, 11:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bill[_40_]
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In message , =?UTF-8?Q?...
winston=e2=80=ab?= writes
Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.


Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device
that upgraded to Win10.

I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a
Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these
devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading
or clean installing.

Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to
'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying
o/s, if OEM, as OEM.

Ok, maybe. But that makes my point. The small businesses that I help
round here have each bought a set of Acer or Lenovo machines when they
upgraded their networks from XP to Windows 7. They will have had and
used the OEM licences.

I'm keeping my head down because I am worried that one or all of the
machines at any site might inadvertently get updated to Windows 10. At
least one of the sites uses specialist software where the business owner
and I had to track down the writer to sort out the changes needed to
make it work after the transition to W7.

I'm actually amazed that you have that number of machines without an OEM
licence. Doesn't a Surface have an OEM licence by default?
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  #10  
Old February 2nd 16, 01:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"...winston?" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's
disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.


Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device that
upgraded to Win10.

I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a Surface, 2
on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these devices had any
OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before upgrading or clean
installing.

Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to
'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the qualifying
o/s, if OEM, as OEM.


I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to
Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS
Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my Start
Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never had Candy
Crush of any flavor on it :-)

I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64 preinstalled,
was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has Win10Pro x64 (also
10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or Minecraft. Go figure; my
non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-)

On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked "Uninstall."
Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the pipe :-(
--
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  #11  
Old February 2nd 16, 06:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Bill wrote:
In message , =?UTF-8?Q?...
winston=e2=80=ab?= writes
Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's
disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.


Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device
that upgraded to Win10.

I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a
Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these
devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before
upgrading or clean installing.

Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to
'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the
qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM.

Ok, maybe. But that makes my point. The small businesses that I help
round here have each bought a set of Acer or Lenovo machines when they
upgraded their networks from XP to Windows 7. They will have had and
used the OEM licences.

I'm keeping my head down because I am worried that one or all of the
machines at any site might inadvertently get updated to Windows 10. At
least one of the sites uses specialist software where the business owner
and I had to track down the writer to sort out the changes needed to
make it work after the transition to W7.

I'm actually amazed that you have that number of machines without an OEM
licence. Doesn't a Surface have an OEM licence by default?


If they're on a Domain, that's supposed to prevent upgrade.
Any computers that are locked down by an IT department,
they're not supposed to be "victims". Apparently Microsoft
doesn't want to **** off the paying Enterprise customers.

Otherwise, you could use a third party control tool.

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

The third-party tools have at their root, the usage
of a couple of Registry entries. That part should not
be a surprise. But what else a tool like that does,
is check multiple times a day that the setting has
not been changed. While the behavior on the surface
may appear to be "linear", there are too many reports
of strange behavior to trust a one-time IT guy Reg
change as a complete solution.

So I'd have to recommend a tool like that, because the
designer is "watching, and listening to user input",
gets the strange reports about hijacks, and he
acts accordingly to redesign the thing and keep
the control up-to-date.

Initially, I would have said "change these two registry
entries, and you're done". But it doesn't work that
way in practice. Probably every time that Windows
Update runs, there is an opportunity for a hijack,
reset of Registry entries or whatever.

Paul
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Old February 2nd 16, 06:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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SC Tom wrote:

I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to
Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS
Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my
Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never
had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-)


My suspicion, is they're doing A/B comparison testing.
Not everyone gets the pushed stuff.

To see how many people perhaps "test" the Candy Crush or
at least open it. To get some idea of the level of
market penetration by the method.

And your response, of removing it, will probably
also be logged for analysis. As a measure of how
many people who are clever enough to "deal with
the issue".

Now, what would be interesting, is if they put it
*back* on your machine. That would be funny.
Then the **** will hit the fan. And I can see
that happening, say, after the next OS upgrade cycle...

Paul
  #13  
Old February 2nd 16, 06:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 02/02/2016 19:21, Paul wrote:
SC Tom wrote:

I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded
to Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version
1511 (OS Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft,
is in my Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has
definitely never had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-)


My suspicion, is they're doing A/B comparison testing.
Not everyone gets the pushed stuff.



I unistalled anything Candy Crush, but I still have Candy Crush Saga and
Candy Crush Soda Saga on top of My Games list in Windows Store.
Any chance I can remove them from the list too?


To see how many people perhaps "test" the Candy Crush or
at least open it. To get some idea of the level of
market penetration by the method.

And your response, of removing it, will probably
also be logged for analysis. As a measure of how
many people who are clever enough to "deal with
the issue".

Now, what would be interesting, is if they put it
*back* on your machine. That would be funny.


Lots of "fun" like that on Android, already

Then the **** will hit the fan. And I can see
that happening, say, after the next OS upgrade cycle...





  #14  
Old February 4th 16, 08:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In message , SC Tom writes
I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64
preinstalled, was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has
Win10Pro x64 (also 10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or
Minecraft. Go figure; my non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-)

On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked
"Uninstall." Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the
pipe :-(


Here, I have right clicked the Candy Crush tile and uninstalled it, but
the only options offered with Minecraft are to "Unpin from start" or
"Turn live tile off".

A search of the C partition fore Minecraft brings up no results and
there is nothing like it in All Apps, so what is this tile?

All this experience has done is to make me realise that I haven't a clue
about what these Live Tiles actually are, where they are stored and so
on.
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Old February 4th 16, 09:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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SC Tom wrote:


"...winston?" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote:
In message , Big Bad Bob
writes
On 01/30/16 12:51, ...winston so wittily quipped:

Possibly OEM related ?


I can accept that explanation, because, "Lenovo a year ago". speaking
metaphorically, heh. They included 'superfish' and were like "What,
what's wrong with that?" and user pressure forced an APOLOGY following
the arrogance.

perhaps SOME day Microsoft, too, will find their 'nemesis' and 'pride
before the fall', and apologize for the adware+spyware in W10 [and
various other intrusions].

I'm not sure what all this means. The machine that I have here was just
a week or so ago installed with Win 7 Pro 64 from the manufacturer's
disks.
I then allowed it to update to Windows 10, which went with only a few
glitches. It has therefore come up with a standard local login.

It then installed Candy crush and Minecraft into the start menu.

If I click on Minecraft, it appears to want money. Candy crush seems to
want me to accept a 41-page set of terms and conditions from someone in
Malta. I have backed out of both games, if that's what they are, but
left them there.

I'm trying to get this machine to progress alongside people who have
upgraded without thinking.

If this is how it looks, it's a disgrace. I can't imagine how any small
business could possibly accept Windows 10 with this sort of nonsense.


Manufacture disks in Win7 would seem to validate it was an OEM device
that upgraded to Win10.

I've done multiple installs on my deviceswith Win10 Home(1 on a
Surface, 2 on laptop) and Pro(3-deskop and laptop) . None of these
devices had any OEM manufacturer disks as the base o/s before
upgrading or clean installing.

Have not seen it (Candy) on any of them...thus my earlier reference to
'possibly OEM' - since any Win10 upgrade can and does ID the
qualifying o/s, if OEM, as OEM.


I have a home-built desktop that had Win7 on it (x64 HP). I upgraded to
Win10 Home x64, and after the latest update (I'm now at Version 1511 (OS
Build 10586.71)), I see that Candy Crush, but not Minecraft, is in my
Start Apps. This has never been an OEM machine, and has definitely never
had Candy Crush of any flavor on it :-)

I also have an Asus laptop that started life with Win7Pro x64
preinstalled, was upgraded to Win8Pro, then Win8.1Pro, and now has
Win10Pro x64 (also 10586.17), but it doesn't have Candy Crush or
Minecraft. Go figure; my non-OEM gets one, but the OEM didn't :-)

On my desktop machine, I just right-clicked on it and picked
"Uninstall." Problem solved for now, until more crap comes down the pipe
:-(


Probably all that telemetry they collected from your device.

--
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