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Old October 11th 16, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as address
in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs on
that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting the
SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


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  #2  
Old October 11th 16, 01:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as address
in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs on
that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting the
SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA



You should download all the files off the camera,
so that it can be re-formatted at any time. The purpose
of that SD store, is not to make a "curated" collection
of videos. It's a replacement for a tape drive,
and should be offloaded and the file content
managed on a real computer. When the
"tape is full" and all content is copied off,
you reformat it, which is like putting a
fresh tape in it.

You should also check to see if the camera has
a setting to delete the oldest file and write
the next one in its place. That would be the
logical equivalent of a CCTV equipped with
continuous loop tape recorder. With those, you
only look at the tape, after an "incident". If
the SD is big enough for 7 days of video, then
you'd review the continuous loop within 7 days
of an event.

*******

In terms of the mechanics, a web server can be set up
to support just download, or download and upload. If
the web server inside the camera supported upload,
you could upload a zero-length file with the same
file name as the one in question, and recover the
space. But the file name would continue to exist
until it was formatted again. The camera has no logical reason
to support this.

*******

A thief could steal all your cameras, you would
lose all the SD cards inserted in them, and you'd
have nothing.

If a thief suspected the cameras were Wifi,
he could jam the 2.4GHz band (devices are
available), then steal all your cameras. And
there would be no log at all, no pictures
of his pretty face, later.

While the average perp isn't all that clever,
some of them are as clever as you. They know
just enough about electronics, to do a successful
B&E. They know the police department response time,
an alarm does no good, and if they know you use
Wifi cameras, you could be completely defenseless.
And only have fingerprints later as evidence.

Paul
  #3  
Old October 11th 16, 01:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
JT[_6_]
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

SniqL wrote:

Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


SniqL,

Is it accessible as a share?

Open File Explorer and type \\192.168.1.45\sd

It may prompt you for a username and password.

Just a thought...

JT

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Old October 11th 16, 03:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

On 10/10/2016 8:23 PM, JT wrote:
SniqL wrote:

Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


SniqL,

Is it accessible as a share?

Open File Explorer and type \\192.168.1.45\sd

It may prompt you for a username and password.

Just a thought...

JT

I don't know if this would change any thing as the camera my have a
default security of "Read Only" on the card when it is being used as a
remote device from the computer.

I have resolved some security issues on my computers by using the
function "Map Network Drive" from the file explorer. When it asked for
the folder you would insert \\192.168.1.45\sd.

You would then access the card using the drive letter you assigned.

This has solved many problems I had when I tried to share the drive
using the Homegroup in Windows.


  #5  
Old October 11th 16, 04:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

On 11-10-2016 09:34, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/10/2016 8:23 PM, JT wrote:
SniqL wrote:

Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


SniqL,

Is it accessible as a share?

Open File Explorer and type \\192.168.1.45\sd

It may prompt you for a username and password.

Just a thought...

JT

I don't know if this would change any thing as the camera my have a
default security of "Read Only" on the card when it is being used as a
remote device from the computer.

I have resolved some security issues on my computers by using the
function "Map Network Drive" from the file explorer. When it asked for
the folder you would insert \\192.168.1.45\sd.

You would then access the card using the drive letter you assigned.

This has solved many problems I had when I tried to share the drive
using the Homegroup in Windows.


*2JT*
If i do this i get the same result because FE will start IE ...

*2KN*
"Network path not found" message.

Thx both.


  #6  
Old October 11th 16, 04:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Posts: 9
Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

On 11-10-2016 07:20, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA



You should download all the files off the camera,
so that it can be re-formatted at any time. The purpose
of that SD store, is not to make a "curated" collection
of videos. It's a replacement for a tape drive,
and should be offloaded and the file content
managed on a real computer. When the
"tape is full" and all content is copied off,
you reformat it, which is like putting a
fresh tape in it.

You should also check to see if the camera has
a setting to delete the oldest file and write
the next one in its place. That would be the
logical equivalent of a CCTV equipped with
continuous loop tape recorder. With those, you
only look at the tape, after an "incident". If
the SD is big enough for 7 days of video, then
you'd review the continuous loop within 7 days
of an event.

*******

In terms of the mechanics, a web server can be set up
to support just download, or download and upload. If
the web server inside the camera supported upload,
you could upload a zero-length file with the same
file name as the one in question, and recover the
space. But the file name would continue to exist
until it was formatted again. The camera has no logical reason
to support this.

*******

A thief could steal all your cameras, you would
lose all the SD cards inserted in them, and you'd
have nothing.

If a thief suspected the cameras were Wifi,
he could jam the 2.4GHz band (devices are
available), then steal all your cameras. And
there would be no log at all, no pictures
of his pretty face, later.

While the average perp isn't all that clever,
some of them are as clever as you. They know
just enough about electronics, to do a successful
B&E. They know the police department response time,
an alarm does no good, and if they know you use
Wifi cameras, you could be completely defenseless.
And only have fingerprints later as evidence.

Paul

Thx
Good idea about that it will overwrite the old files when it gets full.
Maybe it will. Haven't tested that because it's new. Will take another
few days before it's full. We'll see.

When this works then i do not need to delete files manually.
But there is still the technical curiousity ...

Tried to map it, but get error messages.

Thx.

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Old October 11th 16, 05:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as address
in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs on
that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting the
SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


Have you checked the specs or manual for the camera
to see what protocols are supported ?

Paul
  #8  
Old October 11th 16, 06:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Posts: 9
Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

On 11-10-2016 11:27, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


Have you checked the specs or manual for the camera
to see what protocols are supported ?

Paul


Hi Paul,

I did now as far i could find it. Not in the specs but i got some info
from the settings.

IP address
Subnet
Gateway
Pri DNS
2nd DNS
Http: port

RSTP port

ONVIF

uPnPstatus = success

Manufacture DDNS = noenable
Third party DDND = noenable

That's it.

Before i tried to connect to it using ftp = couldn't connect.

Btw. The manual says the it will delete the old files but that is when
you are recording on the harddisk. They do not say anything about the SD
Card but maybe it will happen there aswell, although it's other software
of course.

Thx again.
Harry.



  #9  
Old October 11th 16, 08:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

SniqL wrote:
On 11-10-2016 11:27, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA


Have you checked the specs or manual for the camera
to see what protocols are supported ?

Paul


Hi Paul,

I did now as far i could find it. Not in the specs but i got some info
from the settings.

IP address
Subnet
Gateway
Pri DNS
2nd DNS
Http: port

RSTP port

ONVIF

uPnPstatus = success

Manufacture DDNS = noenable
Third party DDND = noenable

That's it.

Before i tried to connect to it using ftp = couldn't connect.

Btw. The manual says the it will delete the old files but that is when
you are recording on the harddisk. They do not say anything about the SD
Card but maybe it will happen there aswell, although it's other software
of course.

Thx again.
Harry.


The ONVIF is graded according to Profiles as defined here.
No, it has virtually nothing to do with your request.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF

There's no SAMBA or SMB or FTP or FTPD or TFTP.
There might actually be a TFTP used for camera firmware,
and normally you'd want an enable/disable box protected
by password, to get there.

The paper spec (list of bullet items) is probably
a better place to look than just browsing the interface.

There is RSTP and RSVP. The first is Spanning Tree Protocol.
The second is a traffic prioritization scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resour...ation_Protocol

Point me to a web page or PDF doc describing the camera...

Paul
  #10  
Old October 11th 16, 08:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Posts: 9
Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

On 11-10-2016 14:10, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
On 11-10-2016 11:27, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA

Have you checked the specs or manual for the camera
to see what protocols are supported ?

Paul


Hi Paul,

I did now as far i could find it. Not in the specs but i got some info
from the settings.

IP address
Subnet
Gateway
Pri DNS
2nd DNS
Http: port

RSTP port

ONVIF

uPnPstatus = success

Manufacture DDNS = noenable
Third party DDND = noenable

That's it.

Before i tried to connect to it using ftp = couldn't connect.

Btw. The manual says the it will delete the old files but that is when
you are recording on the harddisk. They do not say anything about the
SD Card but maybe it will happen there aswell, although it's other
software of course.

Thx again.
Harry.


The ONVIF is graded according to Profiles as defined here.
No, it has virtually nothing to do with your request.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF

There's no SAMBA or SMB or FTP or FTPD or TFTP.
There might actually be a TFTP used for camera firmware,
and normally you'd want an enable/disable box protected
by password, to get there.

The paper spec (list of bullet items) is probably
a better place to look than just browsing the interface.

There is RSTP and RSVP. The first is Spanning Tree Protocol.
The second is a traffic prioritization scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resour...ation_Protocol

Point me to a web page or PDF doc describing the camera...

Paul


SALES info

http://www.lazada.co.th/ip-camera-ip-came
ra-full-hd-10mp-white-micro-sd-card-32gb-
7605599.html?utm_source=Orderdelivered&
utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=LineItem&setLang=en

Manual

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k1ipqwca2...KMm_Jku1a?dl=0

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Old October 11th 16, 09:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?

SniqL wrote:
On 11-10-2016 14:10, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
On 11-10-2016 11:27, Paul wrote:
SniqL wrote:
Hi,

I can connect to my SD Card in the CCTV by '192.168.1.45/sd' as
address in the Google Browser. Then i have to give an password and i
am in.

The only thing i can do now is browse and download the SD Files.

I would like to have the possibility to delete INDIVIDUAL files/dirs
on that SD card, the only way i can delete files now is by formatting
the SD card.

How can i do this?

TIA

Have you checked the specs or manual for the camera
to see what protocols are supported ?

Paul

Hi Paul,

I did now as far i could find it. Not in the specs but i got some info
from the settings.

IP address
Subnet
Gateway
Pri DNS
2nd DNS
Http: port

RSTP port

ONVIF

uPnPstatus = success

Manufacture DDNS = noenable
Third party DDND = noenable

That's it.

Before i tried to connect to it using ftp = couldn't connect.

Btw. The manual says the it will delete the old files but that is when
you are recording on the harddisk. They do not say anything about the
SD Card but maybe it will happen there aswell, although it's other
software of course.

Thx again.
Harry.


The ONVIF is graded according to Profiles as defined here.
No, it has virtually nothing to do with your request.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONVIF

There's no SAMBA or SMB or FTP or FTPD or TFTP.
There might actually be a TFTP used for camera firmware,
and normally you'd want an enable/disable box protected
by password, to get there.

The paper spec (list of bullet items) is probably
a better place to look than just browsing the interface.

There is RSTP and RSVP. The first is Spanning Tree Protocol.
The second is a traffic prioritization scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resour...ation_Protocol

Point me to a web page or PDF doc describing the camera...

Paul


SALES info

http://www.lazada.co.th/ip-camera-ip-came
ra-full-hd-10mp-white-micro-sd-card-32gb-
7605599.html?utm_source=Orderdelivered&
utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=LineItem&setLang=en

Manual

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k1ipqwca2...KMm_Jku1a?dl=0


Google has a "reverse image" search function.
I used that to locate a similar camera.

"Foscam FI9816P"

https://static.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/269649.pdf

Look for the text string "Record full strategy", which
on PDF page 63 is set to "Cover". That means, it will
overwrite the oldest record on the SD when full. The
pulldown menu may have other settings (like "Stop" maybe?).

Anyway, that's the best I can do at tracking down a manual.

The camera could be an OEM camera, and sold by a number
of companies. Or maybe Foscam actually makes it, and
resells it to others.

No sign of Samba or SMB. The camera contains an FTP
client but not an FTP server. It can push alarm
events to a PC running an FTP server.

And the RTSP reference in the manual, is this one.
Apparently, it's something VLC supports. It's
a protocol from RealNetworks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_T...aming_Protocol

Paul
  #12  
Old October 13th 16, 02:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
SniqL
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Default How to delete files (remotely) on my internet CCTV SD Card?



Google has a "reverse image" search function.
I used that to locate a similar camera.

"Foscam FI9816P"

https://static.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/269649.pdf

Look for the text string "Record full strategy", which
on PDF page 63 is set to "Cover". That means, it will
overwrite the oldest record on the SD when full. The
pulldown menu may have other settings (like "Stop" maybe?).

Anyway, that's the best I can do at tracking down a manual.

The camera could be an OEM camera, and sold by a number
of companies. Or maybe Foscam actually makes it, and
resells it to others.

No sign of Samba or SMB. The camera contains an FTP
client but not an FTP server. It can push alarm
events to a PC running an FTP server.

And the RTSP reference in the manual, is this one.
Apparently, it's something VLC supports. It's
a protocol from RealNetworks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_T...aming_Protocol

Paul

Hi Paul,

Today when the SD was full the oldest day was deleted! So my
initial 'problem' was no problem at all as you already mentioned.
THX!!!
Harry.
 




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