Make 12x18" signs at home on 8.5x11" B&W laser printer

- Mayayana wrote:

See my other post. It looks right to me. Newts
and "official" are centered, no? The right top
corner piece will then overlap.

You're probably correct on the size being right since it's "more" than 1/2
which is ok (as we have to overlap anyway due to the printer unprintable
1/4-inch margins).

But PSP didn't give any option to print the other three pieces using the
procedure I listed.

So how do I get PSP to print the other 3 "pages"?

Eco Clean wrote:
- Eco Clean wrote:

And why is the size completely wrong?

Here is a photo of what the paper looks like next to the sign blank.
http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...a35c4149 1ce3



What did I do wrong in following your exact steps?

These projects always seem to take forever.

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

It takes as many pages to print, as the JPG covers up.

The more you scale the pixel count on your JPG, before
you drop it into Calc, the more magnification that results,
the more sheets that are used.

In the example here, you can see my final PDF, and overlaid
in the right pane, is the original "newt warning" sign.

https://s13.postimg.org/9pvx1cbif/newts_in_my_shoes.gif

The original photo is from here. I think the text above
the picture says "what kind of dipping sauce goes good with these?"
At least, that's how I analyze the animal kingdom - are you
sweet and sour, or what ?

http://okinawanaturephotography.com/...1/IMG_1237.jpg

We used to have Salamanders in our city park. A ton of them.
You could turn over a rock and find a couple underneath.
Well, the changing environment got rid of all of them. A hurricane
ripped the park to shreds. The dry conditions when there was
no longer tree cover, eliminated any remaining Salamanders.
And Salamanders only really liked that park. You'd have to go out
into the woods somewhere, to find comparable conditions. The
park had just the right glacial deposits (rough strewn boulders)
plus rich forest tree cover to make a Salamander habitat. At
least I got to see them, before they were gone.

You didn't drive over those, because they were smart enough
to stay in the park.

Paul

Paul wrote:
These projects always seem to take forever.

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

Create in LibreOffice Draw custom size paper, i.e. full scale 12"x18"

Do Tile printing

https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Print_2

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

"Eco Clean" wrote

| So how do I get PSP to print the other 3 "pages"?

Don't use PSP for the printing. It's limited in that respect.
Use IV. But I think it would be better if you can cut up
the quadrants. With the original open in PSP, measure
out 4 equal quadrants, copy those, then Edit - Paste
as new image. You should end up with 4 images about
600x900 each. Save each one separately:

TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp

Then open each in IV and print it, selecting a
size of 6"x9". The result will be 4 pieces that
can be taped together. no overlap.

In article , Mayayana
wrote:


Don't use PSP for the printing. It's limited in that respect.
Use IV. But I think it would be better if you can cut up
the quadrants. With the original open in PSP, measure
out 4 equal quadrants, copy those, then Edit - Paste
as new image. You should end up with 4 images about
600x900 each. Save each one separately:

TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp

Then open each in IV and print it, selecting a
size of 6"x9". The result will be 4 pieces that
can be taped together. no overlap.

so much effort for such a simple task.

- Jonathan N. Little wrote:

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

Create in LibreOffice Draw custom size paper, i.e. full scale 12"x18"

Do Tile printing

I'll try Libre Office, but loading the PowerPointe into LibreOffice isn't
as simple as I would have hoped, as I have to edit it tremendously just to
get back where I was before I loaded the PowerPointe into LibreOffice.

[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...308fa9c 6530]

Most likely LibreOffice doesn't respect PowerPointe format, so I have to
start all over in LibreOffice from ground zero.

On Jan 13, 2018, Mayayana wrote
(in article ):

"Eco Clean" wrote

So how do I get PSP to print the other 3 "pages"?

Don't use PSP for the printing. It's limited in that respect.
Use IV. But I think it would be better if you can cut up
the quadrants. With the original open in PSP, measure
out 4 equal quadrants, copy those, then Edit - Paste
as new image. You should end up with 4 images about
600x900 each. Save each one separately:

TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp

Are you trying to invoke TRUMP?

Then open each in IV and print it, selecting a
size of 6"x9". The result will be 4 pieces that
can be taped together. no overlap.

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Regards,
Savageduck

"Savageduck" wrote

| TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp
|
| Are you trying to invoke TRUMP?

You have a dirty mind.

In article , nospam
wrote:

Don't use PSP for the printing. It's limited in that respect.
Use IV. But I think it would be better if you can cut up
the quadrants. With the original open in PSP, measure
out 4 equal quadrants, copy those, then Edit - Paste
as new image. You should end up with 4 images about
600x900 each. Save each one separately:

TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp

Then open each in IV and print it, selecting a
size of 6"x9". The result will be 4 pieces that
can be taped together. no overlap.

so much effort for such a simple task.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/D5WXm.png
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRINT/E1280/706PMU5.GIF

On Jan 13, 2018, Mayayana wrote
(in article ):

wrote

TL.bmp TR.bmp BL.bmp BR.bmp

Are you trying to invoke TRUMP?

You have a dirty mind.

Hey! You were the one with the T R x M P letter combos.

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Regards,
Savageduck

- Paul wrote:

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

It takes as many pages to print, as the JPG covers up.

I first tried to open the PowerPointe in Libre Office but that was a
complete disaster, apparently because Libre Office doesn't respect
PowerPointe formatting.
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...308fa9c 6530]

So then I did what you said.
1) I opened LibreOffice 5.3.4.2 (x64) on Windows
2) I clicked on the green "Calc Spreadsheet" on the left pane.
3) That brought up a blank spreadsheet
4) I dragged and dropped newt.bmp onto the spreadsheet
5) I moved the result to the top left corner.
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...a8bcda9 7dcf]
6) FilePrintPreview, but the margins are horrifically huge
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...67f1143 3148]
7) There are actually 9 pages to this but there really should only be 4
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...4428ce2 5998]

How did you the sample document from 9 pages down to only 4 pages?

Is the trick to get 4 pages to reduce the margins manually?
Or to reduce the image size?

On 1/12/2018 10:35 PM, Eco Clean wrote:
Windows sign printing freeware?
Does it exist?

Exact example here uploads.im/YpuVv.jpg
To spray paint plastic sign that are on 12 inches x 18 inches white stock.

Goal is to create a life-sized cutout template on normal 8.5x11" paper.
Then tape template on 12"x18" white plastic stock.
Then spray paint letters of right size with red paint.

If not special sign printing free software is there a trick to print a
real size cutout template with a normal Windows 10 printer of multiple
pages of 8.5x11 inch paper taped together by using a trick of some kind?

Plan is to spray paint once I tape the life-sized paper templates over
12x18" plastic stock white boards.

Dunno if this ancient program will work in Win10 (web page says it does
work in Win7):

Program: Printmaster Express
Company: Broderbund
Wa (Freeware) LFW (v 2.1)
http://www.topfreeware.net/favprogra....htm#pmexpress

You can create banners with the app and it sounds like that's what you
want to do If memory serves me correctly it's pretty easy to use. .

Susan
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Posted to alt.comp.freeware (using WinXP-SP2, Win7professional-32 bit)
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.pricelesswarehome.org

Eco Clean wrote:
- Jonathan N. Little wrote:

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

Create in LibreOffice Draw custom size paper, i.e. full scale 12"x18"

Do Tile printing

I'll try Libre Office, but loading the PowerPointe into LibreOffice isn't
as simple as I would have hoped, as I have to edit it tremendously just to
get back where I was before I loaded the PowerPointe into LibreOffice.

[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...308fa9c 6530]


Most likely LibreOffice doesn't respect PowerPointe format, so I have to
start all over in LibreOffice from ground zero.

LibreOffice's "PowerPoint" is Impress not Draw. If you were making a
graphic then PowerPoint was the wrong too to start with. PowerPoint is
for presentations...multiple "slides". I would try exporting PowerPoint
slide as PDF then import PDF into LibreOffice Draw.

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

Eco Clean wrote:
- Paul wrote:

1) Open LibreOffice Calc.
2) Drop JPG onto spreadsheet.
3) Print

It takes as many pages to print, as the JPG covers up.

I first tried to open the PowerPointe in Libre Office but that was a
complete disaster, apparently because Libre Office doesn't respect
PowerPointe formatting.
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...308fa9c 6530]


So then I did what you said.
1) I opened LibreOffice 5.3.4.2 (x64) on Windows
2) I clicked on the green "Calc Spreadsheet" on the left pane.
3) That brought up a blank spreadsheet
4) I dragged and dropped newt.bmp onto the spreadsheet
5) I moved the result to the top left corner.
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...a8bcda9 7dcf]

6) FilePrintPreview, but the margins are horrifically huge
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...67f1143 3148]

7) There are actually 9 pages to this but there really should only be 4
[http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id...4428ce2 5998]


How did you the sample document from 9 pages down to only 4 pages?

Is the trick to get 4 pages to reduce the margins manually?
Or to reduce the image size?

Using the usual scroll wheel and control key trick, zoom
out the Calc spreadsheet window, until you can see the 8.5x11
page delimiter lines.

Go to the lower right corner of the image. Click the image to
select it. Press the control key (to cause X:Y to be locked
together for proportional scaling). Now, move that corner up
and to the left to resize the image as it lays on the
spreadsheet. You might be able to make out, that now my image
is laid within the bounds of four typewriter pages.

https://s13.postimg.org/62kr8y83r/gr...oportional.gif

A side effect is, Export To PDF still stupidly printed
9 pages, even though 4 pages of content are there. I suspect
the original image is (conceptually) still hiding in the
environment somewhere. You may be able to use another
PDF tool to eliminate the extra pages. As long as the
pages are sequential (no gaps), simply printing page
range 1-4 might be sufficient to avoid wasting paper.

Anyway, that's a breadcrumb to doing this easily. I can't vouch
for how useful the output doc will be :-(

https://s13.postimg.org/ys7n5q9kn/my_export_pdf.gif

Paul

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

"Eco Clean" wrote

| Anyways, I don't have Paint Shop Pro, but I have Irfanview.
|

You should be able to get PSP5 he

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/do...-shop-pro-5-01

I just downloaded and tried starting the installer.
It worked fine. I bought PSP5 for $100 many years
ago. Since then I've bought PSP16. Unfortunately,
the latter is bloated and clunky. Overproduced.
I still use 5 for basic things. The versions online
seem to be perfectly legal. In fact, at one point
Jasc was giving older versions away with things
like routers, before Corel bought them out.

IrfanView is very good and solid but it lacks
one critical thing: A work window where you can
wortk on multiple images , paste layers, have
multiple undo, etc. IV might be able to cut up
the image, but it's worth having PSP or a similar
editor.

BMP is best. JPG loses data. GIF is 256 colors,
so it might dither.

| Maybe 100 ppi? Using that as an example, you
| would then resize to 1200 x 1800 pixels.
|
| That's the kind of math I was seaking!
|

You just have to match it up to the printer. For
instance, a typical photo should be printed at
least 300 dpi.

Not on the 'photo' Epsons. They use 360 dpi. It pays to check the dpi
of the printer you plan to use.

That means to get a 5x7 print you
need 1500x2100 pixels. It doesn't matter what size
the image is and what dpi the printer is set for.
You just need to coordinate the two so that it
will print the size you intend. 300 dpi will give you
nicer edges on letters, but I guess that probably
doesn't matter much.

| The plan is to print to 8.5x11 paper and thentape it all together, and
then
| put thin sheets of clear 8.5x11 plastic sheets taped together underneath,
| and then cut out the "stencil" with an Exacto knife and then spray the
| signs.
|
Makes sense.

| Yes. A few dozen. It's really a joke for an eccentric neighbor's 80th
| birthday, where we plan on having someone take her to see a movie while we
| erect signs all over her yard based on her oddities.
|
You're very generous with your time. How do
you feel about yard work?

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Regards,

Eric Stevens