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Arlen _G_ Holder wrote on 15/10/19 04:31:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:54:20 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

I am afraid that you also come across as a troll. Your posts are replete
with personal attacks, are incredibly prolix not least because you
insist on making your points three or more times in the same post.
You not respond personally (see below) even if you feel you are
provoked. It really makes you seem a troll. And trim your penchant for
hyperbole.

Hi William Unruh,

This is long, as it's important ... because it deals with the fundamentals
o Of how to handle trolls who insist on infesting Usenet potlucks

Bear in mind:
o What you're really advising me about - is how to handle the trolls.

Also notice the FACTS:
o I stopped responding to the trolls - and they took over.

Which is the real strategic problem:
o If you don't confront the trolls
o They turn every Q&A/FAQ post into worthless chitchat.

Worse...
o If you do confront the trolls
o They _still_ turn every Q&A/FAQ post into worthless chitchat.

Hence your comments are apropos as the problem is HOW to deal with trolls!

The problem you speak about isn't "me" - it's how to respond to trolls?
o You may recall, I consider trolls cowardly bullies

Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies
o The other option, is colloquially called "don't feed the trolls".

"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How can
you have 'cowardly bullies'??

I'm guessing they would be pretty ineffective bullies!!

Snip

--
Daniel

In message , Daniel60
writes:
Arlen _G_ Holder wrote on 15/10/19 04:31:

Some while ago, that is.
[]
"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How
can you have 'cowardly bullies'??

I'm guessing they would be pretty ineffective bullies!!

Snip

He was quoting the oft-repeated suggestion that bullies pick on those
weaker than themselves, but when confronted by someone of equal (let
alone greater) strength, show their true character. The "we" in the
quote refers to those in authority, not the bullying victims.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest about. -
Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat), RT 11-17 Dec 2010

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 22/12/19 10:22:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
Arlen _G_ Holder wrote on 15/10/19 04:31:

Some while ago, that is.
[]
"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How
can you have 'cowardly bullies'??

I'm guessing they would be pretty ineffective bullies!!

Snip

He was quoting the oft-repeated suggestion that bullies pick on those
weaker than themselves, but when confronted by someone of equal (let
alone greater) strength, show their true character. The "we" in the
quote refers to those in authority, not the bullying victims.

Ah!! So 'lower level bullies' v 'middle level bullies' v 'upper level
bullies'!!

--
Daniel

In message , Daniel60
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 22/12/19 10:22:
In message , Daniel60
writes:
Arlen _G_ Holder wrote on 15/10/19 04:31:
Some while ago, that is.
[]
"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How
can you have 'cowardly bullies'??

I'm guessing they would be pretty ineffective bullies!!

Snip

He was quoting the oft-repeated suggestion that bullies pick on those
weaker than themselves, but when confronted by someone of equal (let
alone greater) strength, show their true character. The "we" in the
quote refers to those in authority, not the bullying victims.

Ah!! So 'lower level bullies' v 'middle level bullies' v 'upper level
bullies'!!

Whole can of worms there. If you don't acknowledge the concept of
authority and rules/laws, but just call them bullies too, you're leading
towards anarchy. (Biggest bully rules.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

He [Alfred Kinsey] wouldn't ask 'Have you ever slept with a horse?' He would
say, 'When did you first sleep with a horse?' [RT 2018/5/5-11]

In message J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Daniel60

"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How
can you have 'cowardly bullies'??

All bullies are cowards.

He was quoting the oft-repeated suggestion that bullies pick on those
weaker than themselves, but when confronted by someone of equal (let
alone greater) strength, show their true character. The "we" in the
quote refers to those in authority, not the bullying victims.

Definitely proves out.

--
'It's vital to remember who you really are. It's very important. It
isn't a good idea to rely on other people or things to do it for
you, you see. They always get it wrong.' --Sourcery

On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 20:47:34 +1100, Daniel60
wrote:

Arlen _G_ Holder wrote on 15/10/19 04:31:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:54:20 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

I am afraid that you also come across as a troll. Your posts are replete
with personal attacks, are incredibly prolix not least because you
insist on making your points three or more times in the same post.
You not respond personally (see below) even if you feel you are
provoked. It really makes you seem a troll. And trim your penchant for
hyperbole.

Hi William Unruh,

This is long, as it's important ... because it deals with the fundamentals
o Of how to handle trolls who insist on infesting Usenet potlucks

Bear in mind:
o What you're really advising me about - is how to handle the trolls.

Also notice the FACTS:
o I stopped responding to the trolls - and they took over.

Which is the real strategic problem:
o If you don't confront the trolls
o They turn every Q&A/FAQ post into worthless chitchat.

Worse...
o If you do confront the trolls
o They _still_ turn every Q&A/FAQ post into worthless chitchat.

Hence your comments are apropos as the problem is HOW to deal with trolls!

The problem you speak about isn't "me" - it's how to respond to trolls?
o You may recall, I consider trolls cowardly bullies

Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies
o The other option, is colloquially called "don't feed the trolls".

Get rid of the o at the start of lines.


"Where I teach, we're taught to confront the cowardly bullies"!! How can
you have 'cowardly bullies'??

I'm guessing they would be pretty ineffective bullies!!

Snip