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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with
the following matter. In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the beginning of the story. Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all. That's the only way things currently make any sense to me. The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory folders in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder. To mind mind, they only serve to get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction). They remind me of "symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not. I'm starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual" for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human! : ) Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!! Bill |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 30/12/2019 13:11, Bill wrote:
After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make any sense to me. To put 'This PC' shortcut on the 'Taskbar'; Click 'Start button' Scroll down to and click 'Windows System' folder RightClick on 'This PC' Click 'More' Click 'Pin to taskbar' |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 8:11 AM, Bill wrote:
I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with the following matter. In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the beginning of the story. Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make any sense to me. The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory foldersÂ* in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder.Â* To mind mind, they only serve to get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction).Â* They remind me of "symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not.Â* I'm starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual" for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human!Â* :Â* ) Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!! Bill It is kinda ridiculous how complex windows makes the directory system on Windows. No wonder why people IMHO have a horrible time understanding how to organize a directory tree so things can be found faster. On the lighter side, you can unpin things in the quick access part of explorer. And if I recall correctly I've seen people do registry hacks or setting changes to get rid of some other obvious duplicates. Al |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 7:48 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:11 AM, Bill wrote: I upgrades to Windows 10 a few days ago, and have been struggling with the following matter. In doing the upgrade from Windows 7, the directories that were on my desktop got converted to "shared directories" (I have since unshared them with "remove access"). That is not the problem, that is just the beginning of the story. Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! After fretting over this for a few days, I get the impression that Windows 10 does not intend for me to access the folder C:/Users/MyUsername/ at all.Â* That's the only way things currently make any sense to me. The redundancy bothered me quite a bit. I would like to see my directory foldersÂ* in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/, and Not appearing again at the end of the //ThisPC/MyDesktop folder.Â* To mind mind, they only serve to get in the way there (an unnecessary distraction).Â* They remind me of "symbolic links" from another lifetime, except they are not.Â* I'm starting to form the impression that this is just "business as usual" for Windows 10 and MyPC, but I am eager to listen to a human!Â* :Â* ) Thank you for any kind assistance that you may lend me!!! Bill It is kinda ridiculous how complex windows makes the directory system on Windows. No wonder why people IMHO have a horrible time understanding how to organize a directory tree so things can be found faster. On the lighter side, you can unpin things in the quick access part of explorer. And if I recall correctly I've seen people do registry hacks or setting changes to get rid of some other obvious duplicates. IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.6 Firefox 70.0.1 Thunderbird 60.9 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
Bill wrote:
Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! "Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU (Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless. But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better. -- Ken |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote: IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless. Note that I said useless for a specific purpose. I haven't met a single person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the "lines" and a good file tree structure. :-) But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.6 Firefox 70.0.1 Thunderbird 60.9 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote: IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless. Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the "lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-) But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better. Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything, but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and folders are below that like Pictures, Documents, Videos, Music etc. The explorer view is as stated by others, just a tree. You can make shortcuts in the sidebar like Windows Quick access, or shortcuts on the desktop if you wish, but it's just a folder and subfolder makeup like Windows and Linux leaves it alone for the most part. Granted Linux also has it's issues in that a ton of junk is also put in you Home and IMHO should be placed in some "config' folder, but forget that. Al |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Bill wrote: Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! "Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU (Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often. A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited and materials removed. For example, the OP will be pleased to know that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some of the services remain, and seem to be related to making file sharing/location work. And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into Google and little tutorials located for manipulation. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help with other nagging issues. For example. "How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" "How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" "How to Add or Remove OneDrive in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" === gpedit can remove OneDrive And then you can go on a rampage until it looks like Win98 :-) (For some values of rampage) Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder" :-) The OS having been invented, to be a "Preventer of Progress". There are a few areas on the disk, which you can't even list. And items that Windows 10 *used* to put in a particular folder that "can't be deleted". All these things were done, as a means to adding puzzles to the OS. When you want to remove C:\Windows.old, always use cleanmgr.exe, not the trash can. And be careful with cleanmgr.exe, as the item "Downloads" is the downloads in your home folder, and there is a risk of losing years of collected materials if that tick box is left ticked by accident. Paul |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 2019-12-30 1:27 p.m., Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bill wrote: Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder,Â* they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/Â* and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- andÂ* invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path*Â* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! "Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU (Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often. A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited and materials removed. For example, the OP will be pleased to know that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some of the services remain, and seem to be related to making file sharing/location work. And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into Google and little tutorials located for manipulation. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help with other nagging issues. For example. Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10" Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10" Â*Â* "How to Add or Remove OneDrive in Navigation Pane Â*Â*Â* of File Explorer in Windows 10" === gpedit can remove OneDrive And then you can go on a rampage until it looks like Win98 :-) (For some values of rampage) Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder" :-) The OS having been invented, to be a "Preventer of Progress". There are a few areas on the disk, which you can't even list. And items that Windows 10 *used* to put in a particular folder that "can't be deleted". All these things were done, as a means to adding puzzles to the OS. When you want to remove C:\Windows.old, always use cleanmgr.exe, not the trash can. And be careful with cleanmgr.exe, as the item "Downloads" is the downloads in your home folder, and there is a risk of losing years of collected materials if that tick box is left ticked by accident. Â*Â* Paul To prevent accidents I always move all my downloads to another folder on another drive which is usually disconnected unless being used. Also my Macrium backups are treated in like manner. Rene |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/2019 12:27 PM, Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bill wrote: Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! "Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU (Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often. A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited and materials removed. For example, the OP will be pleased to know that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some of the services remain, and seem to be related to making file sharing/location work. And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into Google and little tutorials located for manipulation. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help with other nagging issues. For example. "How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" "How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" I've tried all the ways it lists to hide Libraries without any success. Any thoughts as to why? -- Ken |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 12:26 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote: IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless. Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the "lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-) But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better. Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything, but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and folders are below that like Pictures, Documents, Videos, Music etc. No stones, Al, you're safe! LOL That's the arrangement in Mint 19. Unfortunately, it gives you no hint as to how the entire file structure is arranged on the hard drive. Just the name of the folder. That's what I like with the original File Manager. You can see just about the entire disk, IIRC. The explorer view is as stated by others, just a tree. You can make shortcuts in the sidebar like Windows Quick access, or shortcuts on the desktop if you wish, but it's just a folder and subfolder makeup like Windows and Linux leaves it alone for the most part. You can do the same in the sidebar in Mac's Finder. Granted Linux also has it's issues in that a ton of junk is also put in you Home and IMHO should be placed in some "config' folder, but forget that. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.6 Firefox 70.0.1 Thunderbird 60.9 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/2019 12:26 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 12/30/19 10:34 AM, Ken Springer wrote: On 12/30/19 8:07 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On 12/30/2019 7:54 AM, Ken Springer wrote: IMO, Windows/File Explorer have been useless for years for understanding file system organization. Useless? A giant overstatement, in my opinion. Yes, it's greatly inferior to some alternatives, but that doesn't make it useless. Note that I said useless for a specific purpose.Â* I haven't met a single person in years that understood the file hierarchy since MS removed the "lines" and a good file tree structure.Â* :-) But Winfile and Double Commander make things easier.. Yes. And as far as I'm concerned, Directory Opus is even better. Don't start throwing stones at me, I'm definitely not pushing anything, but I like the simple life of Linux that I use. Home is obvious and I won't throw stones at you, but I'll point out that this is a newsgroup to help people with Windows 10 problems. You're welcome to prefer Linux to Windows 10, but telling us that you do and why you do is way off topic for the newsgroup in general and for this thread in particular. -- Ken |
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On 12/30/2019 2:47 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Now I'm waiting for the "ownership" questions, like "why can't I plop stuff in my Program Files folder" While I have not added 64 bit programs that are not self installed, I have added 32 bit programs to keep all of the programs in one place. I have added a folder for both T-clock and Ruler to the Program(86) folder. T-Clock is a small program that adds functionality to the clock function. It replaces the MS clock in the left end of the tool bar, and gives me the ability to copy time and date strings from the clock. ie strings like date 01/01/20 or Jan 20 2020, and similar strings. Ruler is a simple program that adds a ruler to the screen. I use it when laying out things in the word processing program. |
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New Windows 10 User dealing with "MyPC".
On 12/30/19 1:06 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/30/2019 12:27 PM, Paul wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bill wrote: Still, besides these diectories appearing under "Quick Access" in the Desktop folder, they appear in the Desktop folder in C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/ and they appear again in Desktop (following the "Recycle Bin") -- and invoking Properties shows them as having the *very same path* (C:/Users/MyUsername/Desktop/foldername)!!! "Quick Access" is not another real location, it is essentially a MRU (Most Recently Used), or "Favorites" list of shortcuts. Your directories are not in more than on place. It is a "feature" of Windows 10 to give you a handy shortcut to stuff you use most often. A good deal of the left sidebar can be edited and materials removed. For example, the OP will be pleased to know that HomeGroup is deprecated in Windows 10. Early versions had it, but it's now partially gutted. Some of the services remain, and seem to be related to making file sharing/location work. And when we use terms like that, they can be tossed into Google and little tutorials located for manipulation. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html The "Related Tutorials" at the bottom, will help with other nagging issues. For example. "How to Add or Remove Homegroup in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" "How to Add or Remove Libraries in Navigation Pane of File Explorer in Windows 10" I've tried all the ways it lists to hide Libraries without any success. Any thoughts as to why? By "hiding", do you mean not having the libraries actually be listed in the navigation pane? For me, I right click in a blank area of the navigation pane, uncheck Show Libraries and uncheck Show all folders, and libraries is no longer listed. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.6 Firefox 70.0.1 Thunderbird 60.9 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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