Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and Related Info

Media Creation Tool Windows 10
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.



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...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.

actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.

Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.

actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.


That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done
from within the qualifying o/s.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

". . .winston" wrote in message
...
Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.

actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.


That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from
within the qualifying o/s.


Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the
Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would
be the other way around.
--
SC Tom

On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:

Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the
Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would
be the other way around.

Could be the extra code required to disable the Pro-only features?

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:

Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the
Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would
be the other way around.

Could be the extra code required to disable the Pro-only features?


Could be. I certainly don't know.
--
SC Tom

SC Tom wrote on 07/29/2015 8:14 AM:


". . .winston" wrote in message
...
Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10


Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product
key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.

actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.


That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done
from within the qualifying o/s.


Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than
the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it
would be the other way around.

I'll ask MSFT, if I get an answer for public consumption I'll post it.


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:


". . .winston" wrote in message
...
Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.
actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.

That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from
within the qualifying o/s.

Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the
Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would
be the other way around.

PRO is smarter.


Ken1943

On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I
count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either
the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file.

Paul

"Paul" wrote in message
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:


". . .winston" wrote in message
...
Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product
key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not
require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.
actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.

That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done
from within the qualifying o/s.

Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than
the Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it
would be the other way around.

PRO is smarter.


Ken1943

On my copy, 7ZIP won't open the install.wim, and that's what I
count on to look inside a WIM and see what is different. Either
the WIM format is changed, or this is really an ESD file.

I downloaded the ISOs with the Media Creation Tool. I haven't burned them to
DVD yet. But, I do have two new folders that were created after I received
the ISO files, and are not associated with my downloads- $WINDOWS.~BT and
$WINDOWS.~WS. The BT folder has a 2 folders and a few files, whereas the WS
folder has what looks to be a complete set of files for setting up Windows.
Both of these folders were created well after I got the ISOs, so that's why
I don't think they're associated with my downloads. And, the WS folder is
5.79 GB (6,217,682,779 bytes), almost like it has both x86 and x64
installations, although there's an installx64.esd file (2.63 GB
(2,826,454,514 bytes)) in that folder. Plus the WS folder is a hidden
folder, and BT isn't; it's just a regular, general folder. So, to me, it
looks like I got the promised installation files, plus the 2 ISOs I
downloaded.

I'll have to boot up my Win8.1 machine and see if I get it there, too. That
one has the reminder also :-)
--
SC Tom

"Ken1943" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:14:59 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:



". . .winston" wrote in message
...
Sandro wrote on 07/29/2015 3:33 AM:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:09:14 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Media Creation Tool (How to)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10

Note: Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done from within the
qualifying o/s. A clean install will be seen as requiring a product
key.
- upgrading using media from within a qualifying o/s will not
require
entry of a product key, nor will a Win10 product key be issued.

actually the page you mention states something different :
----------------------------------------------------
If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the
free upgrade offer and successfully activated Windows 10 on this PC in
the past, you won't have a Windows 10 product key, and you can skip
the product key page by selecting the Skip button. Your PC will
activate online automatically so long as the same edition of Windows
10 was successfully activated on this PC by using the free Windows 10
upgrade offer.
----------------------------------------------------

To me it means :
once you have activated succesfully your Windows 10 as free upgrade,
you can re-install windows10 from scratch (formatting).
The microsoft activation procedure will recognize (somehow) that your
PC was eligible to have Windows10 , and will activate it again.


That's correct.

And why I first stated - Upgrading to Win10 using media must be done
from
within the qualifying o/s.


Strange that the Win10Prox64 ISO (3,333,357,568 bytes) is smaller than the
Win10Homex64 (3,347,578,880 bytes). Somehow, I would have thought it would
be the other way around.

PRO is smarter.


But it doesn't have MORE smarts :-) Or it's just smarter using less. Or
maybe its smarts are just smaller. wink wink nudge nudge
--
SC Tom