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Old October 16th 18, 03:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alexander Shofner-Geidt
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows
9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when
you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to
make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it
upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway,

As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its
subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got
corrupted.

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of
the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it
and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of
cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire
paragraph, line by line.

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?

Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as
possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time?

(I can't believe NOBODY else has experienced this boogaboo... but perhaps
Google is complicit in yet another #Globalist coverup to divert the
collective American attention to a non-existant "Russian collusion"
delusion whilst Google is helping the Chinese and Latin American countries
invade and control our country using weak-minded #Democrats in political
positions to pave our ultimate demise while they chase their ephemeral
'personal power complex[es]'...)

Notepad users, UNITE! This is full-on crisis mode.

Thanks in advance.
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Old October 16th 18, 04:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

In article , Alexander
Shofner-Geidt wrote:


Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as
possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time?


mr. bill gates is no longer running microsoft and most likely doesn't
give a **** about notepad.
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Old October 16th 18, 04:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word


I only have 1809 on one PC so far, but haven't noticed any misbehavioiur ...
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Old October 16th 18, 04:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:56:18 GMT, Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?


I think I reported on the new notepad changes, a few months ago, where
Microsoft touted that they were 'fixing' the word wrap in Notepad.

Googling for the release notes, some of these may help explain things:
"Notepad getting huge improvements on windows 10 version 1809 (Zoom in/out,
wrap-around, Bing search)"
https://howtofixwindows.com/notepad-improvements-windows-10-version-1809/

What's new with Notepad in the Windows 10 October 2018 Update
https://www.windowscentral.com/whats-new-notepad-windows-10-october-2018-update

Windows 10 build 17713 Released with Big Notepad Updates
https://windows101tricks.com/windows-10-build-17713-redstone-5/

Notepad getting huge improvements on windows 10 version 1809
http://www.technewborn.com/notepad-getting-huge-improvements-on-windows-10-version-1809/

The complete change log
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-october-2018-changelog
https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-redstone-5-version-1809-new-features/
https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-build-17713/
etc.

Gotta run, but I'm sure your source of ills is described therein.
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Old October 16th 18, 04:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

nospam wrote:

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as
possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time?


mr. bill gates is no longer running microsoft and most likely doesn't
give a **** about notepad.


Yep, over 4 years ago he left Microsoft.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...executive.html

Besides, Bill stopped being involved in the Development department many
decades ago. He became management that decides direction, not coding.

Microsoft's organizational chart:
https://www.theofficialboard.com/org-chart/microsoft

Good luck trying to find who is the manager of whatever Dev group that
is in charge of the Notepad code. This tree chart doesn't delve that
far. Microsoft's corporate report might have more in-depth tracing into
their divisions and departments but I wasn't interested to check for
Notepad when there are better 3rd party alternatives (e.g., Notepad++).
  #6  
Old October 16th 18, 04:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:
I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows
9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when
you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to
make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it
upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway,

As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its
subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got
corrupted.

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of
the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it
and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of
cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire
paragraph, line by line.

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?

snip

You should not complain so loudly.

They did open up the source and make actual improvements
to Notepad. On previous OSes, Notepad was just shipped
without dealing with any issues it has.

It's now faster than it used to be. The Replace function
is fixed, and is lightning fast. It's finally faster than
BBEdit :-/

*******

In Cortana, type "Hub" and see what results.

I use Hub in Insider Edition, but I don't know if it is
ready for your input on Release versions. Test and see.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...ays-microsoft/

You can use Hub to report software problems. The
hardest part of using it, is selecting a "category"
to file the problem under. There never seems to be
a correct category for stuff.

Paul
  #7  
Old October 16th 18, 04:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows
9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when
you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to
make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it
upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway,

As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its
subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got
corrupted.

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of
the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it
and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of
cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire
paragraph, line by line.

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?

Can somebody close to Mr. Bill Gates ask him to correct this as soon as
possible because it sure is costing me a lot of time?

snipped the Google diatribe

These are the changes to Notepad that I found:

https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-notepa...ate-1827543753

You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad? WordPad will [attempt
to] retain formatting during a paste operation. NotePad will not. If
you are copying from an HTML document (e.g., web page) then it likely
has formatting code (HTML tags) that will get truncated or corrupted
when pasted in WordPad (which is not an HTML editor nor can compensate
for incomplete or missing HTML tags during a paste operation).

You could use one of the myraid of CRC (cyclic redundancy check) tools
to compute a hash of notepad.exe (the one in \windows\system32, not
elsewhere) for 1809 and a prior version of Windows to see if it changed.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windo...2018-changelog
"Notepad now features Unix/Linus line endings (LF) and Macintosh line
endings (CR.)"

So, maybe now there's an option within Notepad on how it should handle
linebreaks (CR LF versus just LF). Perhaps you are mixing pastes from
Windows and Linux-originated files.

Is the *source* (copy) just text or does it contain formatting? Is a
Windows/DOS or Linux file?
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Old October 16th 18, 05:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

Paul wrote:

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:
I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows
9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when
you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to
make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it
upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway,

As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its
subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got
corrupted.

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of
the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it
and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of
cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire
paragraph, line by line.

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?

snip

You should not complain so loudly.

They did open up the source and make actual improvements
to Notepad. On previous OSes, Notepad was just shipped
without dealing with any issues it has.

It's now faster than it used to be. The Replace function
is fixed, and is lightning fast. It's finally faster than
BBEdit :-/

*******

In Cortana, type "Hub" and see what results.

I use Hub in Insider Edition, but I don't know if it is
ready for your input on Release versions. Test and see.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...ays-microsoft/

You can use Hub to report software problems. The
hardest part of using it, is selecting a "category"
to file the problem under. There never seems to be
a correct category for stuff.

Paul


Long ago when dinosaurs still roamed the planet and we had to deal with
a DOS kernel even if as an alternative kernel, Notepad had a maximum
filesize limit of 54KB that it could open. Actually, it could edit 45KB
and if the file was bigger (up to 54KB) then you couldn't edit the file.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Notepad

That gives some history regarding the maximum filesize that NotePad can
handle. The article mentions other changes to NotePad. In another
reply, I already gave a link to the release article that describes
recent changes to NotePad.

The wiki article also mentions, "Notepad accepts text from the Windows
clipboard. When clipboard data with multiple formats is pasted into
Notepad, the program only accepts text in the CF_TEXT format." I asked
in my other reply from just what source the OP was copying "text" (or
what he thought was just text).
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Old October 16th 18, 06:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:36:05 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

nospam wrote:

[7 quoted lines suppressed]


Yep, over 4 years ago he left Microsoft.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...executive.html


Besides, Bill stopped being involved in the Development
department many decades ago. He became management that decides
direction, not coding.

Microsoft's organizational chart:
https://www.theofficialboard.com/org-chart/microsoft

Good luck trying to find who is the manager of whatever Dev group
that is in charge of the Notepad code. This tree chart doesn't
delve that far. Microsoft's corporate report might have more
in-depth tracing into their divisions and departments but I
wasn't interested to check for Notepad when there are better 3rd
party alternatives (e.g., Notepad++).


....and Paul Allen just died!
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Old October 16th 18, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

On 10/16/18 11:50 AM, KenW wrote:
Hasn't everyone switched to Notepad ++ ?


KenW

Oh so many years ago. Colored syntax for code editing, or css files
etc. Why just black and white?
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Old October 16th 18, 07:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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VanguardLH wrote:
Paul wrote:

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:
I use Notepad everyday, all through the day, consistently since the Windows
9x days of lore and legend - back when it was the wild and wooly web, when
you had only the two knobs, horizontal and vertical, to turn in order to
make images on the screen and if you made a mistake, you had to turn it
upside down and shake it to start all over... or so it seems... anyway,

As of Windows 10 update to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.1; and its
subsequent "fix" to Version 1809, OS Build 17763.55, Notepad's code got
corrupted.

With Notepad's Format set to Word Wrap, Randomly, when I copy text to
Notepad, at the line break, it will randomly cut a word in the interior of
the word and continue the word on the next line. Any attempt to correct it
and reconnect the word on the appropriate line results in a bevy of
cascading format errors which requires a manual edit of the entire
paragraph, line by line.

This has to be traceable to some minor change some programmer made to the
Notepad code in this latest major update from v1803 to v1809, right?

snip

You should not complain so loudly.

They did open up the source and make actual improvements
to Notepad. On previous OSes, Notepad was just shipped
without dealing with any issues it has.

It's now faster than it used to be. The Replace function
is fixed, and is lightning fast. It's finally faster than
BBEdit :-/

*******

In Cortana, type "Hub" and see what results.

I use Hub in Insider Edition, but I don't know if it is
ready for your input on Release versions. Test and see.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...ays-microsoft/

You can use Hub to report software problems. The
hardest part of using it, is selecting a "category"
to file the problem under. There never seems to be
a correct category for stuff.

Paul


Long ago when dinosaurs still roamed the planet and we had to deal with
a DOS kernel even if as an alternative kernel, Notepad had a maximum
filesize limit of 54KB that it could open. Actually, it could edit 45KB
and if the file was bigger (up to 54KB) then you couldn't edit the file.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Notepad

That gives some history regarding the maximum filesize that NotePad can
handle. The article mentions other changes to NotePad. In another
reply, I already gave a link to the release article that describes
recent changes to NotePad.

The wiki article also mentions, "Notepad accepts text from the Windows
clipboard. When clipboard data with multiple formats is pasted into
Notepad, the program only accepts text in the CF_TEXT format." I asked
in my other reply from just what source the OP was copying "text" (or
what he thought was just text).


I think Notepad can handle bigger files now. And it also opens the
bigger files a bit faster than it used to.

But for me though, fixing the "Replace" function is the single
biggest improvement. You can actually use Win10 Notepad for
"real work" now :-)

Paul
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Old October 16th 18, 08:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:41:13 -0400, Paul wrote:

I think Notepad can handle bigger files now. And it also opens the
bigger files a bit faster than it used to.

But for me though, fixing the "Replace" function is the single
biggest improvement. You can actually use Win10 Notepad for
"real work" now :-)


While I appreciate that Microsoft updated Notepad, and that non-Orwellian
Notepad replacements exist such as Notepad++, I'm still of the opinion
that, for most people, climbing the steep learning curve of "vim" is well
worth the one-time effort, with lasting benefits, for decades on end.
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Old October 16th 18, 09:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alexander Shofner-Geidt
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

VanguardLH

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

I use Notepad everyday [...]


snipped the Google diatribe

You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad?


Insert emoticon for "Where'd you find this asshole?"
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Old October 16th 18, 09:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

VanguardLH

Alexander Shofner-Geidt wrote:

I use Notepad everyday [...]


snipped the Google diatribe

You sure you are using Notepad and not WordPad?


Insert emoticon for "Where'd you find this asshole?"


Ah, now revealed is the OP is a child that wants to rant and can't bitch
to Microsoft, so he pukes here.
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Old October 16th 18, 11:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Latest Windows 10 Update vs. Notepad

On 2018-10-16 1:18 p.m., mechanic wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:36:05 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

nospam wrote:

[7 quoted lines suppressed]


Yep, over 4 years ago he left Microsoft.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...executive.html


Besides, Bill stopped being involved in the Development
department many decades ago. He became management that decides
direction, not coding.

Microsoft's organizational chart:
https://www.theofficialboard.com/org-chart/microsoft

Good luck trying to find who is the manager of whatever Dev group
that is in charge of the Notepad code. This tree chart doesn't
delve that far. Microsoft's corporate report might have more
in-depth tracing into their divisions and departments but I
wasn't interested to check for Notepad when there are better 3rd
party alternatives (e.g., Notepad++).


...and Paul Allen just died!


Notice that Paul Allen wasn't even featured on Bing the way leftists are
usually featured on Google once they die. He and Bill must really have
hated each other at the end.


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