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Old December 8th 19, 05:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software which
does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to produce
PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.

T.I A.
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Roger
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Old December 8th 19, 07:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Roger Mills wrote:
I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software which
does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to produce
PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.

T.I A.


FineReader 4 Pro from PC-active 2002

FineReader 6 is looking for TWAIN support in this example.

There was TWAIN, WIA, WIA2. You should need administrator
to access raw hardware interfaces (a "service" could
do this for you).

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...2-e8d944a67d74

Compatibility isn't going to help, if there
isn't a working TWAIN subsystem.

Later versions of the ABBYY product, fiddle with the
Office Menu Bar, which is likely to incur some
wrath from Windows Defender. If your AV product keeps
a log, perhaps it has an entry for the "incursion"
it stopped.

There might be another framework that came after WIA
but I'm unable to find it. I think almost no manufacturer
was willing to use it. Can't seem to find a reference to it.

Paul
  #4  
Old December 11th 19, 03:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Johnson[_2_]
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 16:18:12 +0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).


Its usually included with Epson scanners so if you have one of those
look on the install disk to see if there's a 64bit version.
Someone's offering Omnipage 19, Kofax, used to be Nuance, as a
download on eBay for £12.92 (or best offer) on eBay, promising
lifetime updates.
  #5  
Old December 11th 19, 09:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 14:09:41 +0000, Peter Johnson wrote:

Its usually included with Epson scanners so if you have one of those
look on the install disk to see if there's a 64bit version.
Someone's offering Omnipage 19, Kofax, used to be Nuance, as a
download on eBay for £12.92 (or best offer) on eBay, promising
lifetime updates.


It appears that Nuance has sold off Omnipage, and I see no download available on their site. I
suspect the eBay offers are scams.

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  #6  
Old December 16th 19, 12:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Roger Mills wrote:

I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install
ok but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all
the compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no
avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer
versions are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the
UK).


Is the ancient version you got from some CD taped to a magazine a
16-bit version program? 16-bit programs won't run on 64-bit Windows.

Windows included a WOW (Windows On Windows) emulator to run old
software. Windows XP (32-bit) came with WOW32 which allowed 16-bit
programs to run under the emulator running on 32-bit Windows XP.
64-bit versions of Windows come with WOW64 which allows running of
32-bit programs on the 64-bit OS. There is no WOW32 emulator in 64-bit
Windows that lets you run 16-bit programs under the 64-bit OS.
Backwards compatibility grants running the prior bitwidth programs, not
even older smaller bitwidth programs.

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software
which does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to
produce PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.


SimpleOCR
https://www.simpleocr.com/ocr-freeware/
"System Requirements
SimpleOCR works on any version of windows, from Windows 95-10 and
beyond! Your scanner need only a TWAIN driver, the driver that comes
with a majority of all scanners sold. In short, SimpleOCR will most
likely work with the PC and scanner you already have."
Latest release: looks like back in 2013.

Never used it, just have heard of it. I've rarely needed the OCR
feature, and the software I already have already has an OCR feature.
For eample, Microsoft's OneNote is free and has an OCR feature.

FreeOCR
http://www.paperfile.net/
Latest release: March 2015 v5.4

Uses the Tesseract.js (Javascript) library.
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Old December 18th 19, 12:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Mills[_2_]
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On 16/12/2019 11:45, VanguardLH wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:

I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install
ok but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all
the compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no
avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer
versions are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the
UK).


Is the ancient version you got from some CD taped to a magazine a
16-bit version program? 16-bit programs won't run on 64-bit Windows.

No, I'm pretty sure that it's a 32-bit program. It wouldn't even install
if it was 16 bit. It tries to run - displaying a start-up logo very
briefly, and then dying. The Windows error log indicates a problem with
fobj420.dll - but when I downloaded and installed a later version of
that (unless I didn't do it right!) it made no difference.

Windows included a WOW (Windows On Windows) emulator to run old
software. Windows XP (32-bit) came with WOW32 which allowed 16-bit
programs to run under the emulator running on 32-bit Windows XP.
64-bit versions of Windows come with WOW64 which allows running of
32-bit programs on the 64-bit OS. There is no WOW32 emulator in 64-bit
Windows that lets you run 16-bit programs under the 64-bit OS.
Backwards compatibility grants running the prior bitwidth programs, not
even older smaller bitwidth programs.

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software
which does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to
produce PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.


SimpleOCR
https://www.simpleocr.com/ocr-freeware/
"System Requirements
SimpleOCR works on any version of windows, from Windows 95-10 and
beyond! Your scanner need only a TWAIN driver, the driver that comes
with a majority of all scanners sold. In short, SimpleOCR will most
likely work with the PC and scanner you already have."
Latest release: looks like back in 2013.

Never used it, just have heard of it. I've rarely needed the OCR
feature, and the software I already have already has an OCR feature.
For eample, Microsoft's OneNote is free and has an OCR feature.

I (still!) have office 2007, and that has a version of OneNote, but I
hadn't installed or even considered it as potentially useful - but it
now looks as if it might be, so I'll give it a whirl.

FreeOCR
http://www.paperfile.net/
Latest release: March 2015 v5.4

Uses the Tesseract.js (Javascript) library.


Meanwhile, I've installed FreeOCR which looks quite good, albeit a bit
slow. It doesn't have anything like FineReader's correction tools - but
I don't do that much OCR and can probably live with that.

Many thanks for your suggestions.

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Cheers,
Roger
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Old December 18th 19, 08:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Roger Mills wrote:
I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).


Which version of ABBYY FineReader do you have?

I have 'ABBYY FineReader 6.0 Sprint' which came with my Epson scanner.
I got it when I still had Windows Vista, but now have it on Windows 8.1
(64-bit Windows, 32-bit version of ABBYY FineReader) and it works fine,
despite Epson saying it's not compatible with 8.1. No idea if this
version works on Windows 10.

If you're really desperate, I can try to dig up the installation CD
and send its contents to you via wetransfer.com (assuming the email
address in your 'From:' line is correct). If you would like me to
try to find it, let me know (here).

[...]
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Old December 18th 19, 11:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Mills[_2_]
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On 18/12/2019 19:40, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).


Which version of ABBYY FineReader do you have?

I have 'ABBYY FineReader 6.0 Sprint' which came with my Epson scanner.
I got it when I still had Windows Vista, but now have it on Windows 8.1
(64-bit Windows, 32-bit version of ABBYY FineReader) and it works fine,
despite Epson saying it's not compatible with 8.1. No idea if this
version works on Windows 10.

If you're really desperate, I can try to dig up the installation CD
and send its contents to you via wetransfer.com (assuming the email
address in your 'From:' line is correct). If you would like me to
try to find it, let me know (here).

[...]


That's very kind of you. Yes, I'd like to try that please if it isn't
too much trouble. I've had a few more goes at making my version of
FineReader work - all to no avail. Whilst I do relatively little OCR,
and have found workarounds for myself, I'm trying to persuade my wife to
move to Windows 10 (from XP!) and she uses FineReader a LOT and isn't
easily going to settle for anything else.

The stated email address does work. I do wonder though whether your
version has been doctored so as to only work with an Epsom scanner
rather than with any TWAIN compatible scanner.

Many thanks.

--
Cheers,
Roger
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Old December 19th 19, 08:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Kenny McCormack
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In article ,
Roger Mills wrote:
....
Whilst I do relatively little OCR,
and have found workarounds for myself, I'm trying to persuade my wife to
move to Windows 10 (from XP!) and she uses FineReader a LOT and isn't
easily going to settle for anything else.


Men are always trying to get their wives to do strange, unnatural,
perverted things. You seem to be continuting the tradition.

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Old December 19th 19, 07:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Roger Mills wrote:
On 18/12/2019 19:40, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]
Which version of ABBYY FineReader do you have?

I have 'ABBYY FineReader 6.0 Sprint' which came with my Epson scanner.
I got it when I still had Windows Vista, but now have it on Windows 8.1
(64-bit Windows, 32-bit version of ABBYY FineReader) and it works fine,
despite Epson saying it's not compatible with 8.1. No idea if this
version works on Windows 10.

If you're really desperate, I can try to dig up the installation CD
and send its contents to you via wetransfer.com (assuming the email
address in your 'From:' line is correct). If you would like me to
try to find it, let me know (here).

[...]


That's very kind of you. Yes, I'd like to try that please if it isn't
too much trouble. I've had a few more goes at making my version of
FineReader work - all to no avail. Whilst I do relatively little OCR,
and have found workarounds for myself, I'm trying to persuade my wife to
move to Windows 10 (from XP!) and she uses FineReader a LOT and isn't
easily going to settle for anything else.

The stated email address does work.


I have transferred the content of my Epson installation CD to you via
wetransfer.com. There should be an email from wetransfer to your stated
email address.

I just copied the files/folders from the CD with File Explorer, i.e. I
did not make an ISO image of the CD. I think that won't make a
difference for the installation program.

I do wonder though whether your
version has been doctored so as to only work with an Epsom scanner
rather than with any TWAIN compatible scanner.


If that's the case, then, according to my notes, you can work around
that by first scanning to JPEG (*.jpg) (or another image format?) format
and then in FineReader do File - Open Image...

I used that workaround when I only had a PDF of a scanned document
which I wanted to convert to OCR text. I converted the PDF to JPEG with
(Windows) 'Snipping Tool' and then processed the .jpg file with
FineReader.

Please let me know when you have installed the software, so I can
remove the files/folders from my system.

Good luck and let me/us know how things turn out.
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Old December 20th 19, 12:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Mills[_2_]
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On 19/12/2019 18:26, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Roger Mills wrote:
On 18/12/2019 19:40, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]
Which version of ABBYY FineReader do you have?

I have 'ABBYY FineReader 6.0 Sprint' which came with my Epson scanner.
I got it when I still had Windows Vista, but now have it on Windows 8.1
(64-bit Windows, 32-bit version of ABBYY FineReader) and it works fine,
despite Epson saying it's not compatible with 8.1. No idea if this
version works on Windows 10.

If you're really desperate, I can try to dig up the installation CD
and send its contents to you via wetransfer.com (assuming the email
address in your 'From:' line is correct). If you would like me to
try to find it, let me know (here).

[...]


That's very kind of you. Yes, I'd like to try that please if it isn't
too much trouble. I've had a few more goes at making my version of
FineReader work - all to no avail. Whilst I do relatively little OCR,
and have found workarounds for myself, I'm trying to persuade my wife to
move to Windows 10 (from XP!) and she uses FineReader a LOT and isn't
easily going to settle for anything else.

The stated email address does work.


I have transferred the content of my Epson installation CD to you via
wetransfer.com. There should be an email from wetransfer to your stated
email address.

I just copied the files/folders from the CD with File Explorer, i.e. I
did not make an ISO image of the CD. I think that won't make a
difference for the installation program.

I do wonder though whether your
version has been doctored so as to only work with an Epsom scanner
rather than with any TWAIN compatible scanner.


If that's the case, then, according to my notes, you can work around
that by first scanning to JPEG (*.jpg) (or another image format?) format
and then in FineReader do File - Open Image...

I used that workaround when I only had a PDF of a scanned document
which I wanted to convert to OCR text. I converted the PDF to JPEG with
(Windows) 'Snipping Tool' and then processed the .jpg file with
FineReader.

Please let me know when you have installed the software, so I can
remove the files/folders from my system.

Good luck and let me/us know how things turn out.


It's all good. Thanks. I have sent you a personal email with more detail.

--
Cheers,
Roger
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Old December 20th 19, 04:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaidy036[_7_]
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On 12/8/2019 11:18 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software which
does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to produce
PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.

T.I A.

Look at one of these:
https://acethinker.com/convert-pdf-free on line conversion
https://acethinker.com/pdf-converter program with free trial

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Old December 20th 19, 08:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Mills[_2_]
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On 20/12/2019 15:58, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 12/8/2019 11:18 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
I've been running AbbyyFineReader OCR software (for producing editable
text from scanned images) for many years. It was free on a magazine
Cover Disk. It used to run fine on Windows XP and, more recently, on
Windows 7 32-bit professional.

I've just bought a new computer which runs Windows 10 64-bit
Professional, and FineReader won't run on it. It appears to install ok
but opens very briefly and them immediately closes. I've tried all the
compatibility options, and running as Administrator - all to no avail.

Any clues as to how I can make it work? OK, I know that newer versions
are available, but these cost hundreds of pounds (I'm in the UK).

Alternatively, can anyone recommend free or inexpensive software which
does a similar job. I've installed NAPS2 but that seems only to
produce PDF files, and I can't see how to get editable text from it.

T.I A.

Look at one of these:
https://acethinker.com/convert-pdf-free¬*¬* on line conversion
https://acethinker.com/pdf-converter¬* program with free trial


Thanks, but with help of this NG I now have several viable solutions -
none of which requires me to go via PDF.

--
Cheers,
Roger
  #15  
Old December 21st 19, 02:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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On 19 Dec 2019 18:26:06 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Roger Mills wrote:
On 18/12/2019 19:40, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[...]
Which version of ABBYY FineReader do you have?

I have 'ABBYY FineReader 6.0 Sprint' which came with my Epson scanner.
I got it when I still had Windows Vista, but now have it on Windows 8.1
(64-bit Windows, 32-bit version of ABBYY FineReader) and it works fine,
despite Epson saying it's not compatible with 8.1. No idea if this
version works on Windows 10.

If you're really desperate, I can try to dig up the installation CD
and send its contents to you via wetransfer.com (assuming the email
address in your 'From:' line is correct). If you would like me to
try to find it, let me know (here).

[...]


That's very kind of you. Yes, I'd like to try that please if it isn't
too much trouble. I've had a few more goes at making my version of
FineReader work - all to no avail. Whilst I do relatively little OCR,
and have found workarounds for myself, I'm trying to persuade my wife to
move to Windows 10 (from XP!) and she uses FineReader a LOT and isn't
easily going to settle for anything else.

The stated email address does work.


I have transferred the content of my Epson installation CD to you via
wetransfer.com. There should be an email from wetransfer to your stated
email address.


If its not to much to ask, would you mind doing the ame thinh for me?
I am a moderate user of ABBYY and when I recently did a fresh install
of of W10 I found the ABBYY installation disc had vanished. The return
address on this posting is valid.

I just copied the files/folders from the CD with File Explorer, i.e. I
did not make an ISO image of the CD. I think that won't make a
difference for the installation program.

I do wonder though whether your
version has been doctored so as to only work with an Epsom scanner
rather than with any TWAIN compatible scanner.


If that's the case, then, according to my notes, you can work around
that by first scanning to JPEG (*.jpg) (or another image format?) format
and then in FineReader do File - Open Image...

I used that workaround when I only had a PDF of a scanned document
which I wanted to convert to OCR text. I converted the PDF to JPEG with
(Windows) 'Snipping Tool' and then processed the .jpg file with
FineReader.

Please let me know when you have installed the software, so I can
remove the files/folders from my system.

Good luck and let me/us know how things turn out.


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