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David the Liar of Devon wrote:

On 08/12/2019 18:33, Beauregard T. Shagnasty (Who's he?)
David the Liar of Devon Devon wrote:
Similarly, the MASTER-*stalker* called Beauregard T. Shagnasty has
even set up a spiteful web page because I exposed his whole website to
be carrying malware. Proof he https://i.imgur.com/JCa39b8.jpg

False positive by a tool you don't understand.

I have every confidence in the objectivity of Sucuri

...but why bother when you don't understand it?

Anyone can check your www.tekrider.net site for themselves, he-

https://sitecheck.sucuri.net

Good idea:
"No Malware Found"
"Our scanner didn't detect any malware"

Six *more* months added to the lifespan of your _special page_.

*I was just checking that you are still stalking me*, [remove false
attribution]

And you are! ;-)

Will you never learn?

[snip incessant lies]

If not, explain why you have taken steps to refuse access to your
website by ANYONE using the BT server in the UK.

Because YOU are a user of BT. It is YOUR fault.

TIA

You don't deserve any thanks. You are a stalking scumbag.

--
-bts

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


The reality is, not everyone knows how to do this.

nobody said 'everyone'.

the number who do not and have nobody to help them get online is a
tiny, tiny fraction (as in almost zero), nowhere near enough to justify
a company publishing written manuals that everyone else will never look
at, never mind read, and which would also need to be ordered online.

I know people that have to wait for their son to come for a visit twice
a year for that.

they are a tiny, tiny minority.

Maybe 25% of those I know. That's not tiny :-D

invalid sample size.

there are several billion people with laptops, desktops and mobile
devices, and there's no way that 25% of them need someone to visit for
basic tasks such as getting online.

this is particularly true for mobile devices, which are automatically
online when the cellular service is activated and will auto-connect to
public wifi networks, no password required.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

It should be obvious that information found online is useless, when the
user does not know how to go online.

it should be obvious that isn't actually a problem.

it's not 1985 anymore. just about everyone already *is* online, has
been for years and knows how to search for stuff.

phones, tablets and computers will normally automatically connect to
wifi without the user needing to do anything, unless disabled.

Not without the password :-P

public wifi doesn't usually have a password, so it will auto-connect.

You really advise people with no knowledge of computers and security to
use a public WiFi? Ow! :-(

just about everything is https:, or just use cellular data.

Me, I tell them to use it only at home and disable the search for free
wifis.

mine is set to auto-join known networks, ones which i have previously
joined on my own.

the places that do have passwords normally will help people get
connected. my local library does this, either with a printed guide or
the librarian will assist.

Not home.

for home, the isp's tech support can help, or another family member or
various other options.

you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

not only that, but the only way to get the software is online, so if
someone can figure out how to *get* the various apps, they can figure
out how to also find help, assuming it's even needed, which it probably
isn't.

I know people that don't know how to "download and install" an app in
Android.

they're in the minority, but the point is that if they don't know how
to download new apps, they won't be needing to read user manuals for
how to use them.

about 25%

nowhere near that many.

On 08/12/2019 23:43, Beauregard T. Shagnasty is wriggling on the hook again!
David wrote:

On 08/12/2019 18:33, Beauregard T. Shagnasty (*Who's he*?)
David wrote:
Similarly, the MASTER-*stalker* called Beauregard T. Shagnasty has
even set up a spiteful web page because I exposed his whole website to
be carrying malware. Proof he https://i.imgur.com/JCa39b8.jpg

False positive by a tool you don't understand.

I have every confidence in the objectivity of Sucuri

..but why bother when you don't understand it?

I understood enough to catch you out!

Anyone can check your www.tekrider.net site for themselves, he-

https://sitecheck.sucuri.net

Good idea:
"No Malware Found"
"Our scanner didn't detect any malware"

Amazing what happens when the truth is told!

Six *more* months added to the lifespan of your _special page_.

*I was just checking that you are still stalking me*, [remove false
attribution]

And you are! ;-)

Will you never learn?

[snip incessant lies]

If not, explain why you have taken steps to refuse access to your
website by ANYONE using the BT server in the UK.

Because YOU are a user of BT. It is YOUR fault.

Your action is RIDICULOUS - can't *you* see that?

Only someone *GUILTY* would act in such a manner. :-(

TIA

You don't deserve any thanks. You are a stalking scumbag.


Readers of Usenet will eventually question why you, someone who doesn't
ever use Microsoft Windows, deems it ethical to INSTRUCT newbies in the
mysteries of one of the most vulnerable operating systems on the planet.

Spreading malware, are you?!!!

On 08/12/2019 22:51, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-12-08, David wrote:
Gulp A *TAPE* player?!!! ;-)

Yes - no touch screen involved, just minimal user interaction with a
small set of dedicated controls. Using muscle memory to operate it
there is no need for eyes off the road.

My previous vehicle, a 2.5 Ltr Ford Mondeo Estate, purchased in the
*last century*, came with a 6-pack-load cassette for playing CDs. No
need for eyes off the road with that set-up either!

On 2019-12-08 5:03 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

It should be obvious that information found online is useless, when the
user does not know how to go online.

it should be obvious that isn't actually a problem.

it's not 1985 anymore. just about everyone already *is* online, has
been for years and knows how to search for stuff.

It's also not 2185 where everyone has in implant, and is genetically
modified to know this at birth. Something you are unable to acknowledge.

strawman.

the reality is that being online is *not* an obstacle.

The reality is, not everyone knows how to do this.

nobody said 'everyone'.

the number who do not and have nobody to help them get online is a
tiny, tiny fraction (as in almost zero), nowhere near enough to justify
a company publishing written manuals that everyone else will never look
at, never mind read, and which would also need to be ordered online.

I know people that have to wait for their son to come for a visit twice
a year for that.

they are a tiny, tiny minority.

you're also ignoring that software distribution is almost entirely
online, so if they can manage to get various apps, they can get help
for it as well, should it even be needed, which is not a given.

this.

if someone wants something printed for whatever reason, download the
relevant pdfs and print them, either in its entirety or specific pages.

Something that some people need someone to demo in person before not
being afraid of trying. God forbid if something goes bad and they can't
stop the printer. Pull the plug! And the daft thing continues printing
the one thousand page book (the wrong book) after being plugged again.

that's a stretch.


Well I have seen it happen, Back when I was building Manager of our
Convention Centre about 1978, We had a Honeywell Alpha 2000 computer As
the control center for our HVAC equipment, its output device was a
Teletype RO 35 impact printer, No glass monitor and it used tractor feed
fandfold paper which came in a 5000 sheet box cube.
You put a box on the floor behind the printer and let the output spill
out behind it to harvest each day.
One night I got a call from the Security staff that the printer had gone
Crazy and was spewing out piles of paper on the floor, Well I don't
drive so I called a cab and headed for work as fast as I could get there.
The printer Power supply was hard wired so no way for Security to pull
the plug.
By the time I got there and deactivated the printer the printer had
pulled through nearly half a box of fanfold paper and spewed it on the
floor, The printer was not printing, just feeding paper.
Next day I pulled it apart and found it had stripped one of its dog
clutches and let that shaft spin forever.
I replaced it with a Dot matrix Centronics 761 serial printer and had to
design a 20 ma to serial interface circuit. for it

Rene

Mayayana wrote:
"Carlos E.R." wrote

| You can see that my post was sent in utf-8 (not my personal doing), and
| you had no issue reading it and answering :-) although I'm unsure what
| your client used.
|

That's only because the text is ASCII. It's officially
UTF-8, but there are no bytes other than ASCII. I can
see how UTF-8 makes sense for you, though. If you
send UTF-8 in Spanish then everyone can read it. If
you use ANSI then there will probably be corrupt
characters on non-Euro systems. By contrast, my ASCII
English is also compliant UTF-8.

Though I think your Spanish ANSI would
probably work OK for me. Tilde, for example, is in the
English ANSI system. Presumably they had the sense to
use the same character codes in all Euro ANSI codepages.

That's because "we English" pave over the language of
other people. That's how, magically, everything we
type "can be represented in ASCII".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englis...critical_marks

"French Ã* propos, which lost both the accent and
space to become English "apropos"

*******

We see mention that "jalapeno" is actually "jalapeño".

But when I checked the Wikipedia article, habanero
is magically an "all English thing". How curious.
I did not know the English invented such a hot
pepper on the Scoville scale, all by themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habanero

I have to find a dictionary article, to see that
"alternately, habañero".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/habanero

Your computer is now "juiced up" so that you can
receive a manuscript from your publisher, copy and
paste it into your computer, *without* losing that
jazz that is all over the place. If there is an em-dash
in your manuscript, the computer preserves it. Such
wasn't always the case. Try typing "habañero" on
a punch card terminal. There was a time when
we used to revel in the stinginess of the implementation.
(The university mainframe with the "60 bit words"
holding "ten 6 bit characters" - we were so cheap back
then, not even 7 bit ASCII was supported.)

Paul

In article , Paul
wrote:

(The university mainframe with the "60 bit words"
holding "ten 6 bit characters" - we were so cheap back
then, not even 7 bit ASCII was supported.)

sounds like the one i used.

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

if someone wants something printed for whatever reason, download the
relevant pdfs and print them, either in its entirety or specific pages.

Something that some people need someone to demo in person before not
being afraid of trying. God forbid if something goes bad and they can't
stop the printer. Pull the plug! And the daft thing continues printing
the one thousand page book (the wrong book) after being plugged again.

that's a stretch.


Well I have seen it happen, Back when I was building Manager of our
Convention Centre about 1978, We had a Honeywell Alpha 2000 computer As
the control center for our HVAC equipment, its output device was a
Teletype RO 35 impact printer, No glass monitor and it used tractor feed
fandfold paper which came in a 5000 sheet box cube.
You put a box on the floor behind the printer and let the output spill
out behind it to harvest each day.
One night I got a call from the Security staff that the printer had gone
Crazy and was spewing out piles of paper on the floor, Well I don't
drive so I called a cab and headed for work as fast as I could get there.
The printer Power supply was hard wired so no way for Security to pull
the plug.
By the time I got there and deactivated the printer the printer had
pulled through nearly half a box of fanfold paper and spewed it on the
floor, The printer was not printing, just feeding paper.
Next day I pulled it apart and found it had stripped one of its dog
clutches and let that shaft spin forever.
I replaced it with a Dot matrix Centronics 761 serial printer and had to
design a 20 ma to serial interface circuit. for it

that you need to go back 41 years to find an instance of it happening,
on a computer and peripherals that are no longer made, is very clear
evidence that it's not at all common.

"Mayayana" wrote:
"Apd" wrote
| If you get the "line too long" error, save your unsent reply as a
| ".nws" file, open in notepad and delete all but the last MID in the
| "references" line. Then add the header "X-Unsent: 1" and save. Now you
| can open in OE and treat as any normal message in composition.

Ah. Thank you. So the limit is with the length of the
entire header?

No, it's a line-length limit; that's any single line (header or body)
anywhere in the message. OE will wrap body text to well within the
limit but for some stupid reason just keeps extending the references
line until it fails. Other newsreaders do what's called "folding" so
you'll see about 2 reference MIDs per line.

On 2019-12-08 6:41 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

if someone wants something printed for whatever reason, download the
relevant pdfs and print them, either in its entirety or specific pages.

Something that some people need someone to demo in person before not
being afraid of trying. God forbid if something goes bad and they can't
stop the printer. Pull the plug! And the daft thing continues printing
the one thousand page book (the wrong book) after being plugged again.

that's a stretch.


Well I have seen it happen, Back when I was building Manager of our
Convention Centre about 1978, We had a Honeywell Alpha 2000 computer As
the control center for our HVAC equipment, its output device was a
Teletype RO 35 impact printer, No glass monitor and it used tractor feed
fandfold paper which came in a 5000 sheet box cube.
You put a box on the floor behind the printer and let the output spill
out behind it to harvest each day.
One night I got a call from the Security staff that the printer had gone
Crazy and was spewing out piles of paper on the floor, Well I don't
drive so I called a cab and headed for work as fast as I could get there.
The printer Power supply was hard wired so no way for Security to pull
the plug.
By the time I got there and deactivated the printer the printer had
pulled through nearly half a box of fanfold paper and spewed it on the
floor, The printer was not printing, just feeding paper.
Next day I pulled it apart and found it had stripped one of its dog
clutches and let that shaft spin forever.
I replaced it with a Dot matrix Centronics 761 serial printer and had to
design a 20 ma to serial interface circuit. for it

that you need to go back 41 years to find an instance of it happening,
on a computer and peripherals that are no longer made, is very clear
evidence that it's not at all common.


I'm sure its not common, I don't see many teletype RO 35 printers
hanging around much anymore, Not to mention Teletype ASR 33s, or
Interdata 7/16 computers with magnetic core memory or Honeywell Alpha
2000s, Need I go on? :-)

Rene

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| Isn't the graphics coding done by graphics card makers and not MS?
|
Good question. I don't really know. I would guess that
they do at least some. At one time it was left to Linux
people to write drivers for Linux, but I suppose someone
like ATI probably writes Windows drivers. So I don't
know how to explain the difference in display.

IIRC, MS certify their drivers with strict requirements.
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 David wrote:
On 08/12/2019 20:10, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-12-08, Ken Blake wrote:
I loathe touch screens on desktop computers or laptops. But as far as
I'm concerned, they're fine on handheld devices such as smart phones.

They probably are, but I have no handheld devices. Don't have a touch
screen (or any computerized device) in my car, either, just a radio
and tape player.

Gulp A *TAPE* player?!!! ;-)

You must be even older than me, Roger!

Wow, not even a CD player?
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David the Liar of Devon wrote:

Amazing what happens when the truth is told!

It certainly is. You should start sometime soon.

[rest not worthy of a reply]

--
-bts

In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

if someone wants something printed for whatever reason, download the
relevant pdfs and print them, either in its entirety or specific pages.

Something that some people need someone to demo in person before not
being afraid of trying. God forbid if something goes bad and they can't
stop the printer. Pull the plug! And the daft thing continues printing
the one thousand page book (the wrong book) after being plugged again.

that's a stretch.


Well I have seen it happen, Back when I was building Manager of our
Convention Centre about 1978, We had a Honeywell Alpha 2000 computer As
the control center for our HVAC equipment, its output device was a
Teletype RO 35 impact printer, No glass monitor and it used tractor feed
fandfold paper which came in a 5000 sheet box cube.
You put a box on the floor behind the printer and let the output spill
out behind it to harvest each day.
One night I got a call from the Security staff that the printer had gone
Crazy and was spewing out piles of paper on the floor, Well I don't
drive so I called a cab and headed for work as fast as I could get there.
The printer Power supply was hard wired so no way for Security to pull
the plug.
By the time I got there and deactivated the printer the printer had
pulled through nearly half a box of fanfold paper and spewed it on the
floor, The printer was not printing, just feeding paper.
Next day I pulled it apart and found it had stripped one of its dog
clutches and let that shaft spin forever.
I replaced it with a Dot matrix Centronics 761 serial printer and had to
design a 20 ma to serial interface circuit. for it

that you need to go back 41 years to find an instance of it happening,
on a computer and peripherals that are no longer made, is very clear
evidence that it's not at all common.


I'm sure its not common,

exactly the point i was making.

I don't see many teletype RO 35 printers
hanging around much anymore, Not to mention Teletype ASR 33s, or
Interdata 7/16 computers with magnetic core memory or Honeywell Alpha
2000s, Need I go on? :-)

that's up to you.