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Old December 2nd 19, 06:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?
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Old December 2nd 19, 07:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:19:15 +1100, Lucifer wrote:

Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?



See these very very recent articles
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/you-can-still-upgrade-to-windows-10-for-free-heres-how/
https://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-still-allows-free-windows-10-upgrades
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/


Disclaimer: I have not tried these myself.


  #3  
Old December 2nd 19, 07:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

Lucifer wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?


Yes.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Tou.../dp/B00GHV0ZIS

i5-3437U 2 cores 4 threads

You have "64GB-HD" so there might actually be sufficient
room to do an Upgrade over top.

Paul
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Old December 2nd 19, 08:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 03:44:19 -0400, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?


Think you'ld find all goes well. Has for two pc's did the "free" upgrade
well after advertised end of offer here. On a pc I changed from 32bit
Win7 to 63bit Win10 I had to enter a key for a Win7 64 bit os is only
issue I've had. Keep same bit size and I doubt you'll have any problems
at all other than hardware and drivers related.


I bought a Toughpad with no OS but with a OEM Windows 8.1 pro sticker.
I was hoping to install the 8.1 using the sticker code and then
upgrade. What are my chances of getting an OEM Windows 8.1 pro?
I am hoping the OEM version will have the drivers.

Thanks.
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Old December 2nd 19, 08:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...
Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?


Think you'ld find all goes well. Has for two pc's did the "free" upgrade
well after advertised end of offer here. On a pc I changed from 32bit
Win7 to 63bit Win10 I had to enter a key for a Win7 64 bit os is only
issue I've had. Keep same bit size and I doubt you'll have any problems
at all other than hardware and drivers related.


You can select "I don't have a key" at install time,
then rely on the OS to "sniff" the MSDM BIOS table
which contains the Win8 OEM key.

Machines like that, no longer need a COA (as the key is
stored in the BIOS), and if you installed Win8 media
(same level as originally shipped, like Pro), then the OS
is supposed to see the license key immediately. The same
could happen with Windows 10, as it would be looking for
MSDM (for a Win10 key) and see the Win8 key sitting there.

You can dump the MSDM table in Linux, if you're bored.
There's an ACPIDUMP.

And I see here, that there is an ACPIDUMP.exe for
Windows users. I could run this on Win7, which is
what is running on the Test Machine right now.

https://acpica.org/downloads/binary-tools

https://acpica.org/sites/acpica/file...n-20191018.zip

In an administrator command prompt, you could then try:

acpidump -s # show table names

acpidump.exe -n msdm # mine doesn't have this table but
# the Win8 tablet will have it

and see what happens. You shouldn't ever need to type that
key, but if you want it (on an OEM machine HP/Dell/Acer/Lenovo)
then it should be loaded. If you assemble your own computer
and put an Asus motherboard in it, then there should not be
an MSDM.

Paul
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Old December 2nd 19, 08:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

On 02/12/2019 07:24, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:19:15 +1100, Lucifer wrote:

Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?



See these very very recent articles
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/you-can-still-upgrade-to-windows-10-for-free-heres-how/
https://hothardware.com/news/microsoft-still-allows-free-windows-10-upgrades
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/


Disclaimer: I have not tried these myself.


I *DID* try this myself a few weeks ago on my Toshiba laptop.

I took it back to its original Windows 7 state (as when new) and it's
now running Windows 10 Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.476)

No problem. No cost!
  #8  
Old December 2nd 19, 08:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

Lucifer wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 03:44:19 -0400, pjp
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?

Think you'ld find all goes well. Has for two pc's did the "free" upgrade
well after advertised end of offer here. On a pc I changed from 32bit
Win7 to 63bit Win10 I had to enter a key for a Win7 64 bit os is only
issue I've had. Keep same bit size and I doubt you'll have any problems
at all other than hardware and drivers related.


I bought a Toughpad with no OS but with a OEM Windows 8.1 pro sticker.
I was hoping to install the 8.1 using the sticker code and then
upgrade. What are my chances of getting an OEM Windows 8.1 pro?
I am hoping the OEM version will have the drivers.

Thanks.


You can use the download link generator at Heidoc.

The Heidoc Win7 option is almost useless now - it's
very hard for them to generate valid download links.
They use a pool of valid Win7 licenses to generate
those URLs, and Microsoft limits how many times
a particular license key can do a download.

Whereas Win8 stands a better chance.

However, in this case you don't need it. Installing
Win8 would be an unnecessary step. What counts right
now, is what that license key on the COA is.

Does that means the tablet is actually Windows 7 vintage ?
As otherwise, there is less reason to be putting
a COA on it. The COA means it was updated from *something*,
but exactly what ?

Download the Windows 10 the normal way, and install
Pro and see if it activates, or see if the license
key works. Use your COA license key, as you feel
that is the "qualifying OS" in this case (free upgrade).

The Heidoc tool is here. The download ISO does *not*
come from the heidoc site. That would crush them,
with Internet charges. Instead, what the program does,
is it interacts with TechBench, and fools TechBench
into thinking you are a Retail customer. And it
gives two URLs. The "copy" button on the right of
the display, copies the URL to the copy buffer.
Then, open Firefox and paste in the URL and download
either the 32 bit or the 64 bit OS you wanted.
You can even download both if you want. I normally
keep both versions, because I run the 32-bit version
in a cruddy VM setup.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

Here is a picture of the tool when it is running.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/images...downloader.png

Once you make a particular OS selection, the copy button
is on the right. You'll have to wait a moment, as the
tool uses IE, ActiveX, Techbench, to generate a
one-time URL (good for 24 hours). You cannot
(practically speaking), post the URL to USENET and
have others use it, as eventually the link will
become invalid.

You should not use that for Windows 10, because the
download DVD for 64 bit is 5GB in size. If you
use the MediaCreationTool using the regular microsoft.com
download page, that one when downloaded, fits on
a single-layer DVD blank and is less than 4.7GB in
size. The TechBench style Win10 has 11 OSes, the
MediaCreationTool one has 7 OSes and is a smaller
ISO file. The four missing OS types, are not
all that useful to anyone (they're Educational
versions, and the students can get the media
from their school for that).

Paul
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Old December 2nd 19, 11:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Il giorno Mon 02 Dec 2019 08:30:50a, *Paul* ha inviato su
alt.comp.os.windows-10 il messaggio .
Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

You have "64GB-HD" so there might actually be sufficient
room to do an Upgrade over top.


better solution: format disk and install w10 using the w8 serial number

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Old December 2nd 19, 04:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 02/12/2019 08:40, Lucifer wrote:
What are my chances of getting an OEM Windows 8.1 pro?


Chances are very good from this link:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows8ISO

Just follow the instructions and use drop-down list and you'll get an ISO.

You don't even need a serial number to download it but you'll need it
when installing. Windows 8.1 was generic because I downloaded it when
upgrading from 8 to 8.1 and I was also able to install it on an OEM
machine using this ISO.

You can go direct to Windows 10 using your Windows 8.1 serial number but
you want 8.1 so the link is what I provided.

Good luck.




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Old December 2nd 19, 04:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Mon 02 Dec 2019 08:30:50a, *Paul* ha inviato su
alt.comp.os.windows-10 il messaggio .
Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

You have "64GB-HD" so there might actually be sufficient
room to do an Upgrade over top.


better solution: format disk and install w10 using the w8 serial number


"Upgrade over top" is so the user applications do not
need to be reinstalled.

Paul
  #12  
Old December 2nd 19, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/2/2019 9:46 AM, Paul wrote:
Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Mon 02 Dec 2019 08:30:50a, *Paul* ha inviato su
alt.comp.os.windows-10 il messaggio .
Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

You have "64GB-HD" so there might actually be sufficient
room to do an Upgrade over top.


better solution: format disk and install w10 using the w8 serial number


"Upgrade over top" is so the user applications do not
need to be reinstalled.



Yes, I agree. Upgrading over the top rather than doing a clean
installation is the better choice for almost everyone. Here's my
standard post on the subject:

Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous versions
of Windows, when doing an upgrade was often a mistake, an upgrade to
Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually works very well.

The only real exception is when you are having problems; in that
situation, an upgrade often worsens problems, rather than solving them.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much easier
than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and reinstall
cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need to
backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to upgrade,
it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden power loss
can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of everything. For that
reason you should make sure you have backups and anything else you need
to reinstall if the worst happens.


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Old December 4th 19, 08:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

On 2019-12-01 22:19, Lucifer wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade from a licensed version of Panasonic
(FZ-G1ASBJKBA) FZ-G1 ToughPad Core i5 (3437U)
OEM Windows 8.1 Pro?


I did one last week. Windows 7 Pro to Windows Nein,
ooops, Windows Ten Pro.

Going to do one or two tomorrow, time permitting?
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Old December 4th 19, 08:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

Il giorno Mon 02 Dec 2019 06:26:12p, *Ken Blake* ha inviato su
alt.comp.os.windows-10 il messaggio
. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

an upgrade to
Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually works very
well


yes, *usually*

but always remember "The funk of 40 thousand years" that on *many* home
computers is the main problem

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Old December 4th 19, 07:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_7_]
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Default Is the free Windows 10 upgrade still available?

On 12/4/2019 1:23 AM, Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Mon 02 Dec 2019 06:26:12p, *Ken Blake* ha inviato su
alt.comp.os.windows-10 il messaggio
. Vediamo cosa ha scritto:

an upgrade to
Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually works very
well


yes, *usually*




Yes, "usually" is what I said. And that's why I said "My recommendation
is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much easier than a clean
installation. You can always change your mind and reinstall cleanly if
problems develop."



but always remember "The funk of 40 thousand years" that on *many* home
computers is the main problem



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