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Old June 9th 14, 06:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).

thanks

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Old June 9th 14, 07:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:45:57 -0700, "Bob F" wrote:

wrote:
I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if
any of them are still active? (from those of you who may have
access).

thanks


10 seconds using google
http://usenetstats.com/


If ya know where to look....

Thanks

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Old June 9th 14, 08:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:45:57 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote:

wrote:
I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if
any of them are still active? (from those of you who may have
access).

thanks


10 seconds using google
http://usenetstats.com/


If ya know where to look....

Thanks


I googled "binary newsgroup activity".


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Old June 10th 14, 01:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

From:

I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).

thanks


They are filled with crap and malware.

Many are installers for legitimate software but have been re-package with
malware.

Binary groupos that are worthwhile are those specific to art, crafts and
specific trades.
Example types are Photography and Woodworking.

There are 10's of thousands of News Groups and there are many good active
ones in the alt.binaries hierarchy.

--
Dave
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http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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Old June 10th 14, 07:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

In message , David H.
Lipman writes:
From:

I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).

thanks


They are filled with crap and malware.

Many are installers for legitimate software but have been re-package
with malware.

Binary groupos that are worthwhile are those specific to art, crafts
and specific trades.
Example types are Photography and Woodworking.


And specific interests: I know someone who spends a lot of time
downloading videos of steam trains around the world, and certain types
of music from the '40s, for example, from binary 'groups.

There are 10's of thousands of News Groups and there are many good
active ones in the alt.binaries hierarchy.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"One of my dearest memories is playing the leader of a gang of gay Hell's
Angels
thundering across the Golden Gate bridge on a motorbike in fog, wearing full
Nazi regalia with a young man in a purple dress on the pillion petrified we'd
crash into the bay." Christopher Lee (1997). ["It was in _The Serial_."]
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Old June 10th 14, 05:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Binary Newsgorups question Just click the Link

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
| wrote:
| I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if
| any of them are still active?

YES

Good
active binary newsgroup
alt.binaries.karaoke,
alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke,
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.karaoke

News @ ABK
Path:
news.netfront.net!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!
goblin2!
goblin.stu.neva.ru!
cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!
voer-me.highwinds-media.com!
peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!
news.highwinds-media.com!
feed-me.highwinds-media.com!
post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!
fx14.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From:

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.karaoke
Subject: New Seq/Kar: - Rod Stewart - Good Morning Little School
Girl(1964)[1].kar (0/1)
Message-ID:
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 27
X-Complaints-To:

Organization: Forte -
www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise
we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:27:31 +0700
X-Received-Body-CRC: 2102243528
X-Received-Bytes: 2057
Xref: news.netfront.net alt.binaries.karaoke:1613

| (from those of you who may have
| access).

Just click the Link for your free Access too:
news:freenews.netfront.net

We be looking for you at
alt.binaries.karaoke

| thanks

No Bob'' All Thanks to you

|
| 10 seconds using google
| http://usenetstats.com/
|

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Old June 10th 14, 05:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.karaoke,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default (OT) Binary Newsgorups question

wrote in message
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|I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
| of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).
|
| thanks
|

Just click the Link for your free Access too:
news:freenews.netfront.net

We be looking for you at
alt.binaries.karaoke

| thanks

No Bob'' All Thanks to you



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Old June 10th 14, 06:04 PM posted to alt.binaries.karaoke,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Frequently Asked Questions about ALT.BINARIES.KARAOKE V4.00

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From: Alan Sharkis
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.karaoke
Subject: FAQ For This MIDI-KARAOKE Nedwsgroup
Summary: If you really want to bug me via email, remove the "_fish"
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X-Received-Body-CRC: 800294450
X-Received-Bytes: 26199

Version Date: 07-20-13
Posting Date: 02-16-14
Frequently Asked Questions about ALT.BINARIES.KARAOKE V4.00

-=-=- Dead Links Removed -=-=-
-=-=- Major Revision In Section -=-=-
-=-=- on Converting Audio to MIDI -=-=-

================================================== =========
When sending comments, additions, suggestions, via email, please
remove
the "_fish" from the address. Thanks.

Based on the "Newcomer's Message" by Bunty Pritchard Jones,
et al, and distributed weekly by Alan Sharkis. To view this
message in html form, please go to:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq.html

================================================== =========
THIS NEWSGROUP IS FOR THE EXCHANGE AND
DISCUSSION OF _MIDI-KARAOKE_ FILES!
THE FILES POSTED HERE ARE NOT
INTENDED FOR SALE.

================================================== =========

In this group you'll find people, from many different
countries, committed to making and sharing MIDI karaoke
files using MIDI sequences. Please do not post messages
concerning other format files such as MP3 or CD&G, etc.,
here, since they are considered off-topic. For MP3,
CD+G, etc., visit the newsgroups:

alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke

OR

alt.music.karaoke

For a comparison of the relative advantages and
disadvantages of midi-karaoke and CDG or MP3+G,
please go to:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq/compare.html

To get you started with .kar files and midi-karaoke on
the World Wide Web, visit:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/...es_karaoke.htm

http://www.midi.org/about-midi/smf/rp017.shtml

http://journals.rpungin.fotki.com/ka...category/midi/

When you get to the last site, you will find information
on many facets of karaoke, whether done on a computer or
not. Select "History," "Karaoke On A PC," and
"MIDI-KARAOKE" for the information most relevant to this
newsgroup.

To know more about this group, read the following questions.
If you have more questions, then you can post them so that
they can be answered or even incorporated in this FAQ. Your
observations, contributions and comments are welcome.

-

Q: I'm looking for a particular midi-karaoke. Where can I

find it?

A: You can make a request to this group. Put "REQ" first in
the subject line of your post. Many users have a huge database,
so there's a good chance it will be posted or e-mailed to you
for download. If you wish to search the Web for midi-karaoke
files, there are some search engines specifically made of the
task. An excellent one can be found at:

http://www.vanbasco.com/midisearch.html

Another well-known one is:

http://www.musicrobot.com
-

Q: How do I play these files?


A: You can play them in a midi sequencer that will display
text events. But it's much easier to play them with a midi-
karaoke player. There are many of these and each has a
different set of features. The following are freeware for
the PC:

vanBasco

http://www.vanbasco.com


The latest known version is 2.53. This version contains support
for more languages than previous versions, both in the interface
itself and for lyrics. There are other new features and bug fixes.
Be sure to check the version history when you go to the site. Also,
when installing this player under Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows
8, it is preferable to install it as an Administrator. To do this,
Right-click the setup file that you downloaded and select "Run as
administrator from the context menu that pops up.

Mark's Player (will only work up to Windows 98.)
http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/...es_karaoke.htm


A player that will also search a lyrics data base and do on-line
searches
for karaoke files is called Karaoke 5. It's available at:

http://www.karaoke5.com

It will also play MP3 files.


A good shareware player for the PC is Karawin. it comes in
"standard" and "pro" versions, and now there is also a
freeware version. It will play MP3 files as well.
You will find all three versions at:

http://www.karawin.fr


Folks KJ is a player program with many options. It now includes
a right-to-left lyric display, for files created with Karakan
6.2 or above. The right-to-left is triggered for files done
in Hebrew or Yiddish by means of special language instructions
included in the Karakan-created midi-karaoke file. If you need
this feature, please be sure to get Folks K.J. version 4.30 from:

http://folksfun.com/


There are also commercial players for the PC as well as
players for other platforms. Consult

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/...es_karaoke.htm

for links to those other players.

-
Q: I've heard that Winamp can be used as a .kar file player. Is this
possible?


A: WinAmp is up to version 5.54 as of this writing. Use the
following procedure
for older versions to display lyrics if they are present in .mid and
..kar files:

1. Go to Preferences/Plug-ins/Support
2. Select Nullsoft midi player 3.07
3. Press Configure
4. Go to the display tab
5. Enable "Show lyrics window while playing"
6. Press OK


You can find Winamp at the Nullsoft site:

http://www.winamp.com

-

Q: What about QuickTime?


A: QuickTime Plugin 7.1, when properly configured, comes up in your
browser and display the lyrics of .kar files that might be found at a
Web site. A .kar file can be loaded into your browser while offline
and the QuickTime Plugin will play it. Also, most versions of
QuickTime, including 7.2 for Windows and (I assume) the parallel
version for the Mac will play .kar files if you load them into the
program.

-

Q: How can I play these files and have the lyrics

display on my midi keyboard?

A: The files have to be converted to the SMF-with-Lyrics format
(see the section above on the history of midi-karaoke and
midi-karaoke files and follow the last two links for more
information.) If you have a Yamaha keyboard, you will have
to use Yamaha's XF midi format. First convert to
SMF-with-Lyrics and then to XF.

-

Q: What about players for other platforms?


A: It used to be that the Arnold player was the
only one for the Mac. I can't tell if it would
work under OS-X since I don't have a Mac, and its
official site seems to be down. But, according
to Hitsquad Musician Network, QMidi and iStar are
two programs that will play midi and .kar files
among other karaoke formats under OS-X. In
the Linux world, midi and .kar players include
PyKaraoke and KMid.

-

Q: Are there karaoke players for Android-based tablets and slates?


A: A quick perusal of the following sites:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...osdr.karaoke&h
l=en

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...viansoftware.k
araoke&hl=n

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ythoos.android.
karaokememorieslite

tell me that there are such apps.

The first link specifically mentions the Sing-Me Karaoke app,
which comes in both a free (lite, with ads) version and a very
inexpensive no-ad version Both will play .kar files as well
as karaoke files in other formats. The second one is called
Karaoke Kar Player, and the third one is Karaoke Memories Lite.
Since I don't own an Android tablet, I cannot review such apps,
and I encourage those of you who do own an Android to let me
know if I can add any that specifically play .kar files or
midi-with-lyrics files to this FAQ.

Karafun used to be a player and file creator for both midi-karaoke
And CDG files. It doesn't exist as a midi-karaoke player any more,
But is available as a player (Windows and Android versions) for
files on the Karafun site via a momthly subscription.

-

Q: I have management issues regarding my midi and/or midi-karaoke file
collection. There must be many duplicate files in it, some files will play
in one player program but not another, some have a long blank section after
the music stops playing, my file-naming system is inconsistent, etc. Is
there a package I can use to address these issues?


A: Follow this link for a detailed description of a package that will
do all of that and mo

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq/midi_util.html

Q: Where can I find freeware or inexpensive shareware

for making my own midi-karaoke files?

A: Before you begin, try to obtain permission from the
author of the midi file to add lyrics to the file and
to post the result, if you so desire, in ABK and/or
a Web site. NOTE: Files sequenced by Barry Taylor,
whether found at contemplator.com or not, may NOT
be karaoke'd.

Then, to find midi-karaoke creation software, look at
the following sites:

Karakan

http://sites.google.com/site/karakankaraoke/home

The latest version (6.2) is now available for
download. The most important addition to this
version is that in addition to handling Unicode
characters, it can create and edit lyrics in
those languages that are written from
right-to-left, if the proper language pack
is installed on the user's computer. Lyrics in
such languages as Hebrew and its derivatives,
and Arabic and similar languages can now be
created. At present, Karakan's built-in player
can properly display those lyrics and at least
one player program is in development and
testing and can do the same.

The addition of Unicode and right-to-left
capability is rather important. It means
that in Karakan, you can now enter
characters in Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc.,
as well as alphabetic characters and special
characters in all languages and that these
characters will display properly in Karakan,
and, perhaps soon, in player programs.

You can find information about Unicode at:

http://unicode.org/

or at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode


In addition, Karakan can now accept midi type 0 files
and work with them; the commands for selecting the
initial midi file, voice track and karaoke output file are
now in the user interface and no longer require
you to type embedded commands; importing existing
karaoke files is now easier; and you can now check for
updates of Karakan via the Help menu.


WinKaraoke Creator
http://www.francisli.com/wink

NOTE: This program was written for Windows 3.1!

It will load files and select tracks slowly
under Windows XP. It will crash when you attempt
to save a file if a file with that filename
already exists in the current folder under
Windows XP. (You can slightly alter the
filename and do a "save as" to get around
that problem.) It runs in a small window and
won't go full-screen. But it's still quite
useable with operating systems up to and
including Windows XP. It hasn't been tested
under Vista, but under Windows 7 it
will behave just as it does in Windows XP,
once installed, but instead of crashing when
you attempt to save a file and that file has
a filename that already exists in the current
folder, it will create a temporary file which you
can safely discard and then follow the
procedure given for Windows XP.

However. You might get an error when you attempt
to install Winkaraoke Creator under Windows 7
that a font was not installed and the installation
failed. A workaround for this problem is to
look for the file musical.ttf in the zip file
you downloaded, extract it to your desktop, and
then copy and paste it into your fonts folder
(which you will find in the Control Panel.)
After that, you can try the installation again.


MidiX
http://agrgic.tripod.com/midix/ (Hasn't been updated since
2001!)

Serenade (inexpensive shareware)
http://www.1manband.nl
NOTE: There are other midi-related programs at this
site that are worth a try!

GNMidi
http://www.gnmidi.com/
Although this program is really a midi utility,
it can be used to enter lyrics into a midi file.

Various midi sequencer programs can also be used
to enter lyrics. In addition, some player programs
can be used for spot editing of lyrics and most
programs that edit or create midi-karaoke can also
play midi-karaoke files.

-

Q: Is it possible to add chord symbols to a .kar file?


A: Yes, it can be done. However, the method will vary with the player
you are using. The following method can be used to get the chord
symbols
to scroll horizontally as the lyrics scroll vertically in Karawin:

If you know the chords and where they appear,
the easiest way to add them is to put them in
square brackets just before the lyric with
which they are associated.

If you don't know what the chords are in a
particular midi file, there are several
programs that attempt to "guess" what they
are. The utility, GNMidi (shareware) does
that,as do the latest versions of the
commercial programs, Band-In-A-Box and
PowerTracks ProAudio from PG Music. GNMidi
can put the chord symbols into a midi file
in several different formats to match
several different players, including an
automatic version of the procedure for
Karawin (see above, and refer to the
documentation for GNMidi version 2.49.)
There may be more programs that guess at
chords and they will be added as they are
made known. Meanwhile, some members of
alt.binaries.karaoke are willing and able
to do the job for you. Just post the file
that you wish to have chord symbols added
to and put REQ CHORDS in your subject line.

-

Q: What does [met tekst] signify when it appears in a subject heading?


A: Files designated as *(met tekst).mid are equivalent to files
designated as *.kar for all practical purposes; they are
interchangeable and can be renamed, if necessary.)

-

Q: I am making my own midi-karaoke's and I need help.

What to do?

A: You are in the right group. Most users here can help
or give some advice on hot to solve any problems you
may encounter.

-

Q: I have a midi-karaoke with a copyright notice. What

should I do?

A: Copyright is a complex and controversial issue. Some
guidelines for dealing with midi and midi-karaoke files
that carry copyright notices can be found at:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq/copyright.html

There is a rather long discussion of copyright at a site that
is no longer up, but its contents can be found (at least
temporarily) at:


http://web.archive.org/web/200609291...apa/frames.htm

Look at the left sidebar for the discussion of midi
files and copyright.

-

Q: I don't like a midi(karaoke)-sequence and want to

change it to make it sound better on my configuration. Is
that OK?

A: This is about some form of etiquette, really. Sequences
can always be changed for your own private use or taste,
but do not repost or redistribute them without asking
permission or approval from the original sequencer/author.

-

Q: Sometimes there is no indication of who created a

midi file, no copyright notice, and yet, it sounds like
it was commercially made. Should I be suspicious?

A: Again, be careful about distributing a .kar made with
such a file. Keep it for yourself unless or until somebody
can assure you that it was or wasn't copyrighted and/or a
commercial product.

-


Q: What is flooding?


A: Flooding is the term for the result of an individual
posting many files in a short period of time. Flooding is
done in many other newsgroups. Flooding is not completely
discouraged in ABK. However, since many users do not have
broadband connections, some are forced to download entire
messages rather than just headers, and people organize
their files differently, you can use these guidelines for
making your contributions:

1. Limit any posting to a maximum of fifty (50) files per
day.

2. Organize files you post; either alphabetically or by
category (by artist, by topic, by language, by time
period or style, etc.)

3. Post a message describing the set of files you post,
so that people who are not interested in that set can
skip it (or delete it if they are forced to download
entire messages.)

4. The use of zip archives, with a limit of twenty (20)
files per zip, arranged by category is greatly
encouraged. It would also be helpful to include a
short text file in the zip, describing the karaoke
files in the zip.

-

Q: I have read discussion in the group about a midi-

karaoke file that didn't appear on my server and I'd love
to have it. Should I request that it be reposted?

A: As you are probably aware, posts don't always show up
immediately. There will be some delay before some news
servers get them. As a result, some users miss posts.
If you know that a file has been posted but you
didn't see it, ask for a repost. Somebody will usually
repost it for you. If you were the original poster of
the file, but don't see it right away, you might try
waiting a day or two before asking if it showed up.
Sometimes files show up quickly on everyone else's
server but yours!

-

Q: Sometimes I see many messages with the same filename

mentioned in the subject-line. They have numbers like
(0/17) and (3/10) in them. If I try to open the messages,
I see what appears to be random characters. How do I get
these files to work?

A: What you are seeing are multi-part files. Usually they
are posted to newsgroups when the files are very large. In
ABK, we rarely see such large files. However, some ISP's,
AOL in particular, severely limit the size of a message
posted to a newsgroup. One way around that is to post
multi-part files with each part attached to a separate
message. There are programs that will do that automatically
for the person who is posting them.

Usually the (0/n) is a message that describes
the file in plain language, with the "n" being the number
of parts of the file you can expect. The other messages are
numbered with the consecutive parts of the file.

Without getting too technical, all binary files, whether
single-part or multi-part, must be encoded (usually with
a system called MIME 64) to be transmitted via newsgroups,
which really only use plain text. They must be decoded at
your end. All the news reader programs can decode single-
part files. But not all news reader programs can combine
and decode multi-part files.

A single program called YencPowerPost can encode files into
a system called yENC, which is supposed to be more efficient
than MIME 64 and then split those files on to multi-part
messages and post them automatically. All information and
a download link for it can be found at:

http://powerpost.free.fr/

-

Q: You mentioned YencPost. What is yEncoding and why

can't my newsreader decode it?

A: yEncoding is a method of encoding that is different
from the MIME 64 encoding mentioned in the last answer.
It's popular among some posters in some newsgroups. It
seems to make more efficient use of bandwidth. There
are newsreaders that will decode messages encoded with
yEncoding. They include YencPost and Forte Agent, beginning
with version 1.91. Unfortunately, they do NOT include
Outlook Express.

There are many free encoders, decoders and news reader
programs that will handle yEncoding listed at this
site:

http://www.yenc.org/windows.htm

-

Q: Can anyone tell me if there's a little program that

can convert midi to wav files? What about .kar files
to wav or mp3?

A: The same thing either way, .kar files are MIDI files.

The simplest method is recording the output of your MIDI
synth as it plays. If your soundcard can record the synth
out (check in Windows mixer, options/properties/recording),
then just use a sound recording program and a MIDI player
together.

If you don't like your synth sounds, you can upgrade them
and gain MIDI to audio file conversion using Roland's
VSC88 software synth. www.edirol.com -- it isn't
freeware but it does work very well for this purpose.

There is also a program for doing this in an easy way.
It's midi2wav, which can be found at:

http://www.midi2wav.com/index.html

It's about $30.

A Web site that links to the site of other, similar
programs and gives advice on how to use them is
listed below:

http://www.musicmasterworks.com/midi...converter.html

A very versatile program that has, among other functions, the ability
to convert midi to .wav is Synthfont. It can be found at:

http://www.synthfont.com/

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Q: What about the reverse; converting .wav or other audio

files to midi?

A: The short answer is that it can't be done conveniently. For
background, please go to:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq/wav_mid.html

This link now includes a graphical analysis of a short snippet
of an audio file containing a guitar chord played against a
snare drum (to keep time) and a very low volume rhythm guitar.
There is also a written description, complete with table, of
what this analysis shows and the difficulty of isolating notes
in a chord even with one instrument. The material was supplied
by a person identified only as "Soltron," in a message in the
Usenet newsgroup, alt.binaries.sheet-music, and used here with
his permission.


However, since the last revision of this file, there are two
programs that convert entire audio files to midi, but are most
Successful with solo instruments or voice and in which extensive
editing of the resulting midi file may be necessary. These two
programs are Intellisco

http://www.intelliscore.net

and WIDI Recognition System:

http://www.widisoft.com/english/index.html

For short clips, however, professional (read "expensive")
DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations) and audio manipulation
programs will work with multivoice tracks. Examples
of such programs include Logic Pro, Ableton, and Melodyne.

-

Q: Can midi and .kar files be converted directly to .AVI or

..MP3+G, or CDG?

A: It depends on what you mean by "directly." There are
several ways to do this with screen capture programs,
such as Easy Video Capture and others. These have not
been tested as of this writing. You can then convert
the native format of the screen capture program to the
format you desire. There are also programs from:

http://www.powerkaraoke.com

and

http://www.karaokebuilder.com/

that will convert midi or .kar to .AVI,to.MP3+G, or
even to CDG. You can download demo versions of these
programs that work for a limited amount of time and
don't allow files to be saved unless they are registered.
The pay versions do come with full documentation.
Both programs also come with players that can be
used stand-alone or within the studio programs.
Consult the documentation for the programs or post
questions in either alt.binaries.sounds.karaoke
or alt.music.karaoke for specifics.
-

Q: Hi, just wondering if midi karaoke is as good as

it gets... I find it hard to believe there isn't any
mp3 quality karaoke with some sort of subtitle plugin
for the lyrics. Anyway, if someone knows anything
please let me know.

A: It kind of depends on what you mean by "as good
as it gets."
Please see:

http://members.chello.nl/j.a.komrij/faq/compare.html

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Q: I'm new to midi and I want to learn more about it.

Is there a guide for beginners and where can I find it?

A: The entire area of electronic music production has
progressed to the point where such a source would be
difficult to find. In addition, the actual equipment
used to produce and edit midi varies so much that it's
essential to read and understand manuals, help files,
etc., that came with your hardware and/or software. In
addition to that, although old, the following links
have very useful information:

Go to
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/HOM...guid=258539292

http://home.roadrunner.com/~jgglatt/

http://www.midi.org/about-midi/tutorial/tutor.shtml


http://www.soundonsound.com/search?url=/search&Keyword="Midi+Basics"+part


And finally for this list, but perhaps not all that exist:

http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/

for discussion groups, Midi documentation, etc.

There are books on midi, usually published around 1985 to 1995.
Later than that, you are more likely to see books on home
recording that concentrate on recording technique, devote a
chapter to midi (usually in the middle of the book and then
continue with digital audio. However, there is a very good
book that starts with a detailed discussion of midi and then
evolves into digital audio. The book is:

The MIDI Manual, 3rd Edition
by David Miles Huber
published by Focal Press

When sending comments, additions, suggestions, via email, please
remove the "_fish" from the address. Thanks.

Thanks for reading and enjoy this group and midi-karaoke!
You can read the FAQ for alt.binaries.karaoke at:
http://members.chello.nl/~j.a.komrij/faqw.html


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| I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
| of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).
|
| thanks
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| They are filled with crap and malware.

No Not All
Here a Good
Binary newsgroups


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by Bunty Pritchard Jones,
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THE FILES POSTED HERE
ARE NOT
INTENDED FOR SALE.


| Many are installers for legitimate software but have been re-package with
| malware.

So true

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| Example types are Photography and Woodworking.
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In message ,
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On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:40:30 -0400,
wrote:

I dont have access to the binary newsgroups. I'm just wondering if any
of them are still active? (from those of you who may have access).

thanks

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If I had access to them, I'd avoid the executables. My main thing, when
I did have access to them, was to download old music from the 40s thru
60s, and music types outside the usual rock & country categories, such
as folk and bluegrass. I am considering getting access by paying
giganews or another server, but only if I can get access from WIFI.


When you sign up with a news provider (other than one provided by the
connection provider), then provided the connection you use doesn't block
certain ports and/or traffic types, you can access them from any
connection.

It's just too damn slow on dialup. (Even though I think binary
newsgroups are faster on dialup compared to the WEB).

What do you mean by "the WEB"? Oh, hang on: you mean you think binary
newsgroups are faster on dialup than the web is on dialup. Well, for a
basic file transfer, encoding it via a newsgroup will involve a
_percentage_ overhead: the usenet system (and email!) was designed for
text only, so to send non-text information, it has to be encoded into
something that will pass through a text-only system. There are two main
methods - UUcoding and MIME; I forget what the (average) coding
overheads are. So, a binary file encoded for sending through usenet (or
as an email attachment!) will be bigger - and thus slower to send - than
that same file sent raw, *all things being equal*. However, depending on
what means you find to get the "raw" file, that may be slower: it could
be a slower server, or (especially if it's part of a web page), even if
the file transfer itself is fast enough, there may be lots of ad.s or
similar sent along with it.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Listen, three-eyes, don't you try to out-wierd me, I get stranger things than
you free with my breakfast cereal. (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the link episode)
 




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