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USB to PS2 converter
I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a
broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne |
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"Jo-Anne" wrote:
I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! USB mouse/keyboard need USB plug, and PS2 mouse/keyboard need PS2 plug. You can't simply fix it with different plug, or you may damage your mouse and/or your PC. Replacing the whole mouse is recommended. Otherwise you'll need a spare USB cable and soldering skills with basic electronic knowledge. For USB mouse/keyboard to PS2 converter, and vice-versa. They are like the ones shown he http://www.google.com/search?q=%22us...2+converter%22 PS2 mouse/keyboard isn't Plug-and-Play. While Windows can detect its type, it can't detect its removal (when unplugged) or its arrival (when plugged). |
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"Jo-Anne" wrote:
I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne The mouse itself has to sense which type of connection you use (USB or PS/2) to adjust to using that connection. A simple USB-to-PS/2 adapter will not magically make a USB-only mouse suddenly work on a PS/2 connector. If the mouse doesn't support both USB and PS/2 protocols then you have to buy an *active* converter into which you plug the USB mouse and then plug the converter into the PS/2 port. These are pretty expensive ($80+) so you might as well as look as buying a new mouse. Does the mouse you want to fix actually state in its specifications from its maker that it supports both USB and PS/2 connections? The *mouse* has to have the logic to sense the connection type and switch between the different hardware protocols. I'm not sure if you are trying to fix the old mouse that was USB so it now uses PS2 (and then whether or not you intend to plug it into a USB port through an adapter), or if you intend to use an old PS2 mouse and make it work on a USB port. Active adapter for USB to PS/2 ($145): http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=SPM6517889302 What hardware protocols did the old broken mouse support? - USB only. - PS/2 only. - Both USB and PS/2. |
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"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
... I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne Before I do more checking on the basis of what JJ and Vanguard said (and I thank you both), I should clarify: What I have in mind is keeping the optical mouse, with all its electronics, but substituting the cable/cord from one of the older mice, which seems to have the same connector to the mouse itself--but a PS2 connector to the computer. Also, I just discovered that I have a never-used Belkin USB-to-PS2 adapter (not connector) that claims it will connect PS2 mice and keyboards to a USB computer and that it "installs with plug-and-play ease" and requires no drivers or power supply. I'm guessing that it might not work, but I thought I'd ask. Could it be that the Belkin adapter is really a connector? Thank you! Jo-Anne |
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Jo-Anne wrote:
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message ... I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne Before I do more checking on the basis of what JJ and Vanguard said (and I thank you both), I should clarify: What I have in mind is keeping the optical mouse, with all its electronics, but substituting the cable/cord from one of the older mice, which seems to have the same connector to the mouse itself--but a PS2 connector to the computer. Also, I just discovered that I have a never-used Belkin USB-to-PS2 adapter (not connector) that claims it will connect PS2 mice and keyboards to a USB computer and that it "installs with plug-and-play ease" and requires no drivers or power supply. I'm guessing that it might not work, but I thought I'd ask. Could it be that the Belkin adapter is really a connector? Thank you! Jo-Anne The mouse you want to repair is USB. If you have a PS/2 cable, you'd need to chop the head off it and fit a USB connector. And they don't make "screw mount" connectors for that kind of thing, because it would upset signal integrity. The PS/2 cable itself, might only be designed with PS/2 signals in mind. Maybe it has a crosstalk problem. We don't know if all the internal details for the two cables are the same. I really wouldn't be heading in that direction. It's about as much work, as designing a mouse from scratch. Look, if you want to fix it: 1) Buy a USB cable. 2) Chop the non-computer end off, exposing four wires and shield. 3) Solder four wires and shield, to the inside of the mouse. 4) Wrap electrical tape around the wire, to form a crude strain relief where the cable goes through the mouse casing. Or not. Done. Paul |
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On 18/07/2012 07:16, Jo-Anne wrote:
I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne Personally, why do you want to waste your time in such things. Go and get a new mouse costing $3.99 and your problem is solved for the next few years. "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" simply doesn't make sense when getting a proper hardware to do the job it is intended for. You want maximum productivity from your effort but re[pairing a mouse doesn't make sense in this respect. It is a false economy in my budget. -- Good Guy Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Forums: http://mytaxsite.boardhost.com Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us |
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USB to PS2 converter
"Jo-Anne" wrote:
Before I do more checking on the basis of what JJ and Vanguard said (and I thank you both), I should clarify: What I have in mind is keeping the optical mouse, with all its electronics, but substituting the cable/cord from one of the older mice, which seems to have the same connector to the mouse itself--but a PS2 connector to the computer. Also, I just discovered that I have a never-used Belkin USB-to-PS2 adapter (not connector) that claims it will connect PS2 mice and keyboards to a USB computer and that it "installs with plug-and-play ease" and requires no drivers or power supply. I'm guessing that it might not work, but I thought I'd ask. Could it be that the Belkin adapter is really a connector? You cannot change a USB-only mouse to support PS/2 simply by changing the connector (by replacing the cable or using a passive adapter). For a mouse to support USB+PS/2 means it needs sense logic inside the mouse to do that - or you have to use an *active* adapter to change between the hardware protocols (USB-to-PS/2). Again, you need to check if your old broken mouse supports. Is it: - USB only? - PS/2 only? - Both USB and PS/2? I'm talking about the mouse and its specification, not what you use for a replacement cable or adapters at the end of the cable. The *mouse* has to support the hardware protocol (or you need a *active* adapter to substitute for missing logic inside the mouse). |
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"Good Guy" wrote:
Jo-Anne wrote: I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Personally, why do you want to waste your time in such things. Go and get a new mouse costing $3.99 and your problem is solved for the next few years. It's not a question of money (since obviously the OP is willing to pay over a hundred dollars on just one mouse). It's about what the OP likes for shape and features of the mouse. What $4 mouse do you know of that has the same shape as the one the OP described? As mice go, this is an oddball shape, especially by elevating the wrist at the backside of the mouse shell. Then show us what $4 mouse is going to have all the extra buttons of the OP's old broken mouse? The OP never bothered to clearly identify *which* mouse she is (was) using. "Contour" applies to many mice since is is an extremely common term to describe the shape of the mouse. What if it was this oddjob? http://ergo.contour-design.com/ You know a $4 mouse that is equivalent? What if the OP was using this oddjob? http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/st...contour-mouse/ This one contravenes most mouse designs. Instead of letting the fingers curve naturally over and down the mouse, it keeps the fingers raised horizontally which would force the wrist to angle up. You couldn't use a mousepad with a wrist pad with this mouse because the wrist pad would elevate your palm above the mouse shell. Also, it doesn't use a combo scrollwheel/button; that is, the scrollwheel isn't used as the 3rd mouse button. On this one, the middle button is really a button and the scrollwheel is off on the side of the mouse shell. Just where do you find a $4 mouse just like this one? "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" simply doesn't make sense when getting a proper hardware to do the job it is intended for. You want maximum productivity from your effort but re[pairing a mouse doesn't make sense in this respect. It is a false economy in my budget. Foolish advice given that you haven't bothered to research what mouse the OP might be discussing. You think everyone is using some super cheapy mouse like you. At one time, I used the Kensington trackball. This was when it had steel roller with ball bearings and not the cheaper hardware they went to later. It was a tough device; however, whacking the ball could get it scored and invariably when trying to make minute mouse movement you'd hit the scratch. Did I have to buy a whole new trackball? Nah, and despite your slipshod advice, I'd just go to a look pool table store and buy a snooker ball (much cheaper than buying replacement balls from Kensington). I've had mice whose buttons didn't work well after some abuse. If the plastic shell for the mouse was damaged (because the flex in the button portion of the shell is what provides the spring to bring it off the PCB switch) then bending it back up usually didn't work. If, however, the problem was with the PCB micro-switch then I'd desolder it and solder in a new one. I'd just head to the local electronics junk shop (carried tons of discarded or old hardware) and grab a mouse for a dollar or two that had the switch that I needed. Much cheaper than buying a new $30 mouse. Sorry, I wouldn't touch those $4 cheapies you use. What boob would replace a $110 mouse with a $4 cheapie? |
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:42:00 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
"Good Guy" wrote: Jo-Anne wrote: I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Personally, why do you want to waste your time in such things. Go and get a new mouse costing $3.99 and your problem is solved for the next few years. It's not a question of money (since obviously the OP is willing to pay over a hundred dollars on just one mouse). It's about what the OP likes for shape and features of the mouse. What $4 mouse do you know of that has the same shape as the one the OP described? As mice go, this is an oddball shape, especially by elevating the wrist at the backside of the mouse shell. Then show us what $4 mouse is going to have all the extra buttons of the OP's old broken mouse? The OP never bothered to clearly identify *which* mouse she is (was) using. "Contour" applies to many mice since is is an extremely common term to describe the shape of the mouse. What if it was this oddjob? http://ergo.contour-design.com/ You know a $4 mouse that is equivalent? What if the OP was using this oddjob? http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/st...contour-mouse/ This one contravenes most mouse designs. Instead of letting the fingers curve naturally over and down the mouse, it keeps the fingers raised horizontally which would force the wrist to angle up. You couldn't use a mousepad with a wrist pad with this mouse because the wrist pad would elevate your palm above the mouse shell. Also, it doesn't use a combo scrollwheel/button; that is, the scrollwheel isn't used as the 3rd mouse button. On this one, the middle button is really a button and the scrollwheel is off on the side of the mouse shell. Just where do you find a $4 mouse just like this one? "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" simply doesn't make sense when getting a proper hardware to do the job it is intended for. You want maximum productivity from your effort but re[pairing a mouse doesn't make sense in this respect. It is a false economy in my budget. Foolish advice given that you haven't bothered to research what mouse the OP might be discussing. You think everyone is using some super cheapy mouse like you. At one time, I used the Kensington trackball. This was when it had steel roller with ball bearings and not the cheaper hardware they went to later. It was a tough device; however, whacking the ball could get it scored and invariably when trying to make minute mouse movement you'd hit the scratch. Did I have to buy a whole new trackball? Nah, and despite your slipshod advice, I'd just go to a look pool table store and buy a snooker ball (much cheaper than buying replacement balls from Kensington). I've had mice whose buttons didn't work well after some abuse. If the plastic shell for the mouse was damaged (because the flex in the button portion of the shell is what provides the spring to bring it off the PCB switch) then bending it back up usually didn't work. If, however, the problem was with the PCB micro-switch then I'd desolder it and solder in a new one. I'd just head to the local electronics junk shop (carried tons of discarded or old hardware) and grab a mouse for a dollar or two that had the switch that I needed. Much cheaper than buying a new $30 mouse. Sorry, I wouldn't touch those $4 cheapies you use. What boob would replace a $110 mouse with a $4 cheapie? If a boob is willing to pay $110 for a mouse, all bets are off. |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
... "Good Guy" wrote: Jo-Anne wrote: I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Personally, why do you want to waste your time in such things. Go and get a new mouse costing $3.99 and your problem is solved for the next few years. It's not a question of money (since obviously the OP is willing to pay over a hundred dollars on just one mouse). It's about what the OP likes for shape and features of the mouse. What $4 mouse do you know of that has the same shape as the one the OP described? As mice go, this is an oddball shape, especially by elevating the wrist at the backside of the mouse shell. Then show us what $4 mouse is going to have all the extra buttons of the OP's old broken mouse? The OP never bothered to clearly identify *which* mouse she is (was) using. "Contour" applies to many mice since is is an extremely common term to describe the shape of the mouse. What if it was this oddjob? http://ergo.contour-design.com/ You know a $4 mouse that is equivalent? What if the OP was using this oddjob? http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/st...contour-mouse/ This one contravenes most mouse designs. Instead of letting the fingers curve naturally over and down the mouse, it keeps the fingers raised horizontally which would force the wrist to angle up. You couldn't use a mousepad with a wrist pad with this mouse because the wrist pad would elevate your palm above the mouse shell. Also, it doesn't use a combo scrollwheel/button; that is, the scrollwheel isn't used as the 3rd mouse button. On this one, the middle button is really a button and the scrollwheel is off on the side of the mouse shell. Just where do you find a $4 mouse just like this one? "Penny-wise, pound-foolish" simply doesn't make sense when getting a proper hardware to do the job it is intended for. You want maximum productivity from your effort but re[pairing a mouse doesn't make sense in this respect. It is a false economy in my budget. Foolish advice given that you haven't bothered to research what mouse the OP might be discussing. You think everyone is using some super cheapy mouse like you. At one time, I used the Kensington trackball. This was when it had steel roller with ball bearings and not the cheaper hardware they went to later. It was a tough device; however, whacking the ball could get it scored and invariably when trying to make minute mouse movement you'd hit the scratch. Did I have to buy a whole new trackball? Nah, and despite your slipshod advice, I'd just go to a look pool table store and buy a snooker ball (much cheaper than buying replacement balls from Kensington). I've had mice whose buttons didn't work well after some abuse. If the plastic shell for the mouse was damaged (because the flex in the button portion of the shell is what provides the spring to bring it off the PCB switch) then bending it back up usually didn't work. If, however, the problem was with the PCB micro-switch then I'd desolder it and solder in a new one. I'd just head to the local electronics junk shop (carried tons of discarded or old hardware) and grab a mouse for a dollar or two that had the switch that I needed. Much cheaper than buying a new $30 mouse. Sorry, I wouldn't touch those $4 cheapies you use. What boob would replace a $110 mouse with a $4 cheapie? Well said, Vanguard. The Contour Mouse itself is actually only one of around four designs offered by Contour Design; I've never had the opportunity to try the others. Mine is this one: http://ergo.contour-design.com/produ...mouse/features and the wrist does rest on the desktop or mouse pad. It's the hand and fingers that curl over the top of the mouse. I find it relaxing to use. Given what you, Paul, and JJ said, however, I'll probably give up the idea of replacing the cable in my old mouse... Thank you! Jo-Anne Jo-Anne |
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"Paul" wrote in message
... Jo-Anne wrote: "Jo-Anne" wrote in message ... I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! Jo-Anne Before I do more checking on the basis of what JJ and Vanguard said (and I thank you both), I should clarify: What I have in mind is keeping the optical mouse, with all its electronics, but substituting the cable/cord from one of the older mice, which seems to have the same connector to the mouse itself--but a PS2 connector to the computer. Also, I just discovered that I have a never-used Belkin USB-to-PS2 adapter (not connector) that claims it will connect PS2 mice and keyboards to a USB computer and that it "installs with plug-and-play ease" and requires no drivers or power supply. I'm guessing that it might not work, but I thought I'd ask. Could it be that the Belkin adapter is really a connector? Thank you! Jo-Anne The mouse you want to repair is USB. If you have a PS/2 cable, you'd need to chop the head off it and fit a USB connector. And they don't make "screw mount" connectors for that kind of thing, because it would upset signal integrity. The PS/2 cable itself, might only be designed with PS/2 signals in mind. Maybe it has a crosstalk problem. We don't know if all the internal details for the two cables are the same. I really wouldn't be heading in that direction. It's about as much work, as designing a mouse from scratch. Look, if you want to fix it: 1) Buy a USB cable. 2) Chop the non-computer end off, exposing four wires and shield. 3) Solder four wires and shield, to the inside of the mouse. 4) Wrap electrical tape around the wire, to form a crude strain relief where the cable goes through the mouse casing. Or not. Done. Paul Thank you, Paul! Jo-Anne |
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"JJ" wrote in message
... "Jo-Anne" wrote: I recently posted about my dead Contour optical mouse, whose cable had a broken wire--one of five. Given the way the five wires were crimped into a piece of plastic, it looked like it would be impossible to fix. I also, however, have several old PS2 Contour mice whose rollers had gotten clogged with cat fur. It turns out that some of the cables have the same five-wire configuration. I'd like to try connecting the unbroken PS2 cable to the optical mouse. What sort of USB to PS2 connector will make Windows XP recognize the mouse as Plug-and-Play? Or is that even possible? Thank you! USB mouse/keyboard need USB plug, and PS2 mouse/keyboard need PS2 plug. You can't simply fix it with different plug, or you may damage your mouse and/or your PC. Replacing the whole mouse is recommended. Otherwise you'll need a spare USB cable and soldering skills with basic electronic knowledge. For USB mouse/keyboard to PS2 converter, and vice-versa. They are like the ones shown he http://www.google.com/search?q=%22us...2+converter%22 PS2 mouse/keyboard isn't Plug-and-Play. While Windows can detect its type, it can't detect its removal (when unplugged) or its arrival (when plugged). Thank you, JJ. Time to give up on replacing the cable, I think. Jo-Anne |
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