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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed
Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2
was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately
responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the contents of your reply speaks
volumes of your inexperience...in dealing with Microsoft, and their updates. Microsoft Service Packs, without exception, always have numerous issues, conflicts, crashes, etc. To be fair to Microsoft, most of them are not necessarily their fault. There has never been "previous predictable experience" with MS updates...there are always surprises, and the unexpected. It is literally impossible for MS to ensure users that their updates will be 100% flawless on everyone's system. "Trusted provider"? Hardly anyone "trust" Microsoft...we tolerate them, because as bad as they are, they're the best we have!. That being said...have you tried uninstalling SP2? In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, you should see the option to do so. Bill Crocker wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
What the man is saying, (without the sarcasm) is simply, you can't trust
Microsoft just because it came from Microsoft.. You should, perhaps, be more aware of the fact that a few Microsoft Updates and Hotfixes (if you wanna call them that) , have been, over the last year or so, 'buggy' and not a cure-all for any problem with Windows despite the fact they are supposed to 'fix' stuff.. People assume that anything that Microsoft posts as a downwloadable fix for Windows XP has to be just fine, right? I mean, after all, they developed the software and did all the testing before they put it out for consumers, right? Not so, and this huge update they just released may prove to be another major screw-up for Microsoft, as the man also said, Some people have had no problems with SP2, others have had PCs freeze-up sporadically and stuff just stop working because they blindly installed this stuff 'patch' I NEVER download ANY Hotfix posted on the Windows Update site until it is a t least 3 months old, and you should be cautioned to observe the same reasonable care.. I seriously doubt you can UN-install this massive update, so I would not under any circumstances try to do so, no matter who tells you you can.. wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
I don't want to have a philosophical discussion of
software provider service, I just want SP2 removed. As I mentioned in my first posting, I've tried to uninstall it through add/remove and system restore....neither recognizes it is there. Since the post, I've also tried the same in safe mode. Same results. Since XP came on my laptop at purchase, I don't have an installation CD for XP and will have to use the system restore CDs that my laptop shipped with...is this my final option? Or, is there anything else that I can try to uninstall SP 2? Any help will be greatly appreciated. T -----Original Message----- I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the contents of your reply speaks volumes of your inexperience...in dealing with Microsoft, and their updates. Microsoft Service Packs, without exception, always have numerous issues, conflicts, crashes, etc. To be fair to Microsoft, most of them are not necessarily their fault. There has never been "previous predictable experience" with MS updates...there are always surprises, and the unexpected. It is literally impossible for MS to ensure users that their updates will be 100% flawless on everyone's system. "Trusted provider"? Hardly anyone "trust" Microsoft...we tolerate them, because as bad as they are, they're the best we have!. That being said...have you tried uninstalling SP2? In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, you should see the option to do so. Bill Crocker wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message .. . When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
I removed XP SP 2 with System Restore.
Worked good. "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Thanks for the advice. I definitely will not install
future updates without waiting several months. I guess I will just have to restore my machine with my restore disks...uuugghhh.. Thanks! T -----Original Message----- What the man is saying, (without the sarcasm) is simply, you can't trust Microsoft just because it came from Microsoft.. You should, perhaps, be more aware of the fact that a few Microsoft Updates and Hotfixes (if you wanna call them that) , have been, over the last year or so, 'buggy' and not a cure-all for any problem with Windows despite the fact they are supposed to 'fix' stuff.. People assume that anything that Microsoft posts as a downwloadable fix for Windows XP has to be just fine, right? I mean, after all, they developed the software and did all the testing before they put it out for consumers, right? Not so, and this huge update they just released may prove to be another major screw-up for Microsoft, as the man also said, Some people have had no problems with SP2, others have had PCs freeze-up sporadically and stuff just stop working because they blindly installed this stuff 'patch' I NEVER download ANY Hotfix posted on the Windows Update site until it is a t least 3 months old, and you should be cautioned to observe the same reasonable care.. I seriously doubt you can UN-install this massive update, so I would not under any circumstances try to do so, no matter who tells you you can.. wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Tammy,to get rid of it you must boot into safe mode.Do
this by pumping the F8 key at start up,choose safe mode when the safe modw comes up choose administrator when it boots,go into add/remove and delete it,it will go from here,be sure thats what you want to do because it ain't coming back,things done in safe mode are gone for good.This is what you do when you have a program that won't delete also.If F8 don't work try F5 most are F8 mine is F5.push the power button and start pumping till it comes on with the option to chose safe mode you may hear the internal beep with pressing the key,just keep pushing it.Good Luck,I had to remove it from one of my 3 computers too.In the safe mode.The other 2 work just fine with it.Dell,E-Machin,the H/P didn't like it.H/P has told me to visit there site and download their updates for the computer from them befare installing it again.Good Luck.Please post back if it works for you,please and happy computing.Ken -----Original Message----- I don't want to have a philosophical discussion of software provider service, I just want SP2 removed. As I mentioned in my first posting, I've tried to uninstall it through add/remove and system restore....neither recognizes it is there. Since the post, I've also tried the same in safe mode. Same results. Since XP came on my laptop at purchase, I don't have an installation CD for XP and will have to use the system restore CDs that my laptop shipped with...is this my final option? Or, is there anything else that I can try to uninstall SP 2? Any help will be greatly appreciated. T -----Original Message----- I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the contents of your reply speaks volumes of your inexperience...in dealing with Microsoft, and their updates. Microsoft Service Packs, without exception, always have numerous issues, conflicts, crashes, etc. To be fair to Microsoft, most of them are not necessarily their fault. There has never been "previous predictable experience" with MS updates...there are always surprises, and the unexpected. It is literally impossible for MS to ensure users that their updates will be 100% flawless on everyone's system. "Trusted provider"? Hardly anyone "trust" Microsoft...we tolerate them, because as bad as they are, they're the best we have!. That being said...have you tried uninstalling SP2? In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, you should see the option to do so. Bill Crocker wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message . .. When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Ya but just think of the hell MS would get if they didn't
come out with updates,hackers would have a field day with your box. -----Original Message----- What the man is saying, (without the sarcasm) is simply, you can't trust Microsoft just because it came from Microsoft.. You should, perhaps, be more aware of the fact that a few Microsoft Updates and Hotfixes (if you wanna call them that) , have been, over the last year or so, 'buggy' and not a cure-all for any problem with Windows despite the fact they are supposed to 'fix' stuff.. People assume that anything that Microsoft posts as a downwloadable fix for Windows XP has to be just fine, right? I mean, after all, they developed the software and did all the testing before they put it out for consumers, right? Not so, and this huge update they just released may prove to be another major screw-up for Microsoft, as the man also said, Some people have had no problems with SP2, others have had PCs freeze-up sporadically and stuff just stop working because they blindly installed this stuff 'patch' I NEVER download ANY Hotfix posted on the Windows Update site until it is a t least 3 months old, and you should be cautioned to observe the same reasonable care.. I seriously doubt you can UN-install this massive update, so I would not under any circumstances try to do so, no matter who tells you you can.. wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message ... When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Thanks, Ken
I've tried removing it in Safe Mode as well and I still get a message that says "error removing...". I have emachine, too. I'll look on their site to see if they have any info for me... thanks! T -----Original Message----- Tammy,to get rid of it you must boot into safe mode.Do this by pumping the F8 key at start up,choose safe mode when the safe modw comes up choose administrator when it boots,go into add/remove and delete it,it will go from here,be sure thats what you want to do because it ain't coming back,things done in safe mode are gone for good.This is what you do when you have a program that won't delete also.If F8 don't work try F5 most are F8 mine is F5.push the power button and start pumping till it comes on with the option to chose safe mode you may hear the internal beep with pressing the key,just keep pushing it.Good Luck,I had to remove it from one of my 3 computers too.In the safe mode.The other 2 work just fine with it.Dell,E-Machin,the H/P didn't like it.H/P has told me to visit there site and download their updates for the computer from them befare installing it again.Good Luck.Please post back if it works for you,please and happy computing.Ken -----Original Message----- I don't want to have a philosophical discussion of software provider service, I just want SP2 removed. As I mentioned in my first posting, I've tried to uninstall it through add/remove and system restore....neither recognizes it is there. Since the post, I've also tried the same in safe mode. Same results. Since XP came on my laptop at purchase, I don't have an installation CD for XP and will have to use the system restore CDs that my laptop shipped with...is this my final option? Or, is there anything else that I can try to uninstall SP 2? Any help will be greatly appreciated. T -----Original Message----- I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the contents of your reply speaks volumes of your inexperience...in dealing with Microsoft, and their updates. Microsoft Service Packs, without exception, always have numerous issues, conflicts, crashes, etc. To be fair to Microsoft, most of them are not necessarily their fault. There has never been "previous predictable experience" with MS updates...there are always surprises, and the unexpected. It is literally impossible for MS to ensure users that their updates will be 100% flawless on everyone's system. "Trusted provider"? Hardly anyone "trust" Microsoft...we tolerate them, because as bad as they are, they're the best we have!. That being said...have you tried uninstalling SP2? In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, you should see the option to do so. Bill Crocker wrote in message .. . Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message .. . When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . . . |
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E-Machines can be somewhat unique, and finicky. Perhaps it is them you
should be upset with, rather than Microsoft. Are you aware that your computer has an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) version of MS Windows XP on it, and that it is NOT supported by Microsoft? Microsoft does not support any OEM versions of it's products. Only the manufacture of your computer does. They may have made changes in their version, that does not respond well with SP2, at this time. It is E Machine's responsibility to fix the problem. Would you consider re-installing SP2? It may be that your original installation was flawed, which might explain why you can't uninstall it. The Microsoft Security Center shouldn't offend you. It's simply an alert utility. It can work just fine with your existing firewall, and anti-virus software. Here is a link you may find helpful, should you decide to reinstall SP2. It allows you to download the "FULL" SP2, which contains everything for all flavors of XP2. It's very large, around 260MB, but if you have a high speed connection, it would be relatively painless. If you can, burn it to a CD-R. Don't forget to delete it when you are done, or it will hog a lot of your hard drive space. Bill Crocker wrote in message ... I don't want to have a philosophical discussion of software provider service, I just want SP2 removed. As I mentioned in my first posting, I've tried to uninstall it through add/remove and system restore....neither recognizes it is there. Since the post, I've also tried the same in safe mode. Same results. Since XP came on my laptop at purchase, I don't have an installation CD for XP and will have to use the system restore CDs that my laptop shipped with...is this my final option? Or, is there anything else that I can try to uninstall SP 2? Any help will be greatly appreciated. T -----Original Message----- I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the contents of your reply speaks volumes of your inexperience...in dealing with Microsoft, and their updates. Microsoft Service Packs, without exception, always have numerous issues, conflicts, crashes, etc. To be fair to Microsoft, most of them are not necessarily their fault. There has never been "previous predictable experience" with MS updates...there are always surprises, and the unexpected. It is literally impossible for MS to ensure users that their updates will be 100% flawless on everyone's system. "Trusted provider"? Hardly anyone "trust" Microsoft...we tolerate them, because as bad as they are, they're the best we have!. That being said...have you tried uninstalling SP2? In Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, you should see the option to do so. Bill Crocker wrote in message ... Let me first say that you are correct. I am ultimately responsible for any action that I take whether it be installing damaging software on my computer or burning myself with coffee. However, my actions were informed and based on previously predictable experience with a very trusted provider. I had no reason to seek out the pros and cons of SP2. In addition, there are many people in this world who use computers daily but have hobbies other than techonology; therefore, we do not live day and night by what MS or any other computer services company is doing day to day, quarter to quarter, or year to year. As a result, I (and thousands of others) knew nothing about SP2 before we installed it. No matter that the individual is ultimately responsible, MS is not off the hook, here. With SP2, MS acted in an unethical manner. (1) my SP2 expectations were based on years of previous experience with MS--MS deviated from these and did not actively inform me at the time of installation; (2) MS created SP2 such that I cannot remove it...had I been warned as such, I would have never installed it; it's pretty obvious MS wanted it that way; (3) a company that wants to keep loyal customers would never expect them (or want them to be inclined to) seek out information about the negative or hugely deviating behaviour of a very familiar procedure. They would, instead, refrain from such design or inform them AT THE POINT of installation. And, no, I did not just "crawl out from under a rock." I have a job to do that requires a computer, and I took actions on faith with a company that I trusted.....MS should be ashamed that they have put me and thousands of others in this situation. -----Original Message----- You must have crawled out from under a rock, if you were not aware that SP2 was one of the largest updates Microsoft ever released. In addition to that, all the newsgroups have been overwhelmed with the pro's, con's, and cautions, of SP2. Even local radio, and TV, stations have discussed it in the news reporting. However, in case you missed all of that, there was the link, on the MS Windows Update Page; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx But, you probably didn't pay any attention to that either. So now it's all Microsoft's fault? Bill Crocker "Tammy" wrote in message . .. When prompted by MS on an automatic update, I installed Windows XP SP2 thinking it was a regular security patch. I was annoyed when I discovered the installation of the Windows Security Center. I already have my computer protected with virus protection and a firewall and regularly get my windows updates. I should have been informed and given a choice of whether or not to install Windows Security Center. But that is the least of my problems. Since installing SP2, my 3 month old computer now does the following: (1) freezes up (often) with no apparent pattern; (2) freezes up when left idle (instead of running the screen saver); (3) all of my windows and desktop will disappear for no apparent reason, and (4) other various buggy issues. Each of these problems requires me to reboot my computer improperly b/c my task manager will not open. I have tried to remove SP2 in the followig manners: (1) Add/Remove programs...I get a message that says an error occurred and it can't be removed (and I get a teaser message to just delete it from the list!); (2) Restore to previous state...I get a message that says no changes have occurred to my computer...(even though SP2 and an "ms software installation" are clearly identified as being added on Aug. 24th); (3) disabling all of the features of the Windows Security Center...my problems still exist and I am nagged by warning messages to turn the features back on. Needless to say, I am very, very annoyed. I am a huge MS fan, but MS has violated my trust in them as a credible and reliable content provider. MS has allowed me to install (seemingly on purpose) software that I cannot remove. I work from a home office and do not have the luxury of an IT staff to figure this out for me. Therefore these problems are seriously hindering my ability to work. If I am not able to get instructions from MS on how to remove SP2, I will not install any other MS updates or buy any other MS software. In addition, I will install a different operating system. Please help! Tammy . . |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
This is the actual link, for downloading the FULL version of SP2.
Download and Install Service Pack 2 on a Single Computer Bill Crocker "Bill Crocker" wrote in message ... E-Machines can be somewhat unique, and finicky. Perhaps it is them you should be upset with, rather than Microsoft. Are you aware that your computer has an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) version of MS Windows XP on it, and that it is NOT supported by Microsoft? Microsoft does not support any OEM versions of it's products. Only the manufacture of your computer does. They may have made changes in their version, that does not respond well with SP2, at this time. It is E Machine's responsibility to fix the problem. Would you consider re-installing SP2? It may be that your original installation was flawed, which might explain why you can't uninstall it. The Microsoft Security Center shouldn't offend you. It's simply an alert utility. It can work just fine with your existing firewall, and anti-virus software. Here is a link you may find helpful, should you decide to reinstall SP2. It allows you to download the "FULL" SP2, which contains everything for all flavors of XP2. It's very large, around 260MB, but if you have a high speed connection, it would be relatively painless. If you can, burn it to a CD-R. Don't forget to delete it when you are done, or it will hog a lot of your hard drive space. Bill Crocker |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Oops...lets try one more time:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en "Bill Crocker" wrote in message ... This is the actual link, for downloading the FULL version of SP2. Download and Install Service Pack 2 on a Single Computer Bill Crocker "Bill Crocker" wrote in message ... E-Machines can be somewhat unique, and finicky. Perhaps it is them you should be upset with, rather than Microsoft. Are you aware that your computer has an OEM (Original Equipment Manufacture) version of MS Windows XP on it, and that it is NOT supported by Microsoft? Microsoft does not support any OEM versions of it's products. Only the manufacture of your computer does. They may have made changes in their version, that does not respond well with SP2, at this time. It is E Machine's responsibility to fix the problem. Would you consider re-installing SP2? It may be that your original installation was flawed, which might explain why you can't uninstall it. The Microsoft Security Center shouldn't offend you. It's simply an alert utility. It can work just fine with your existing firewall, and anti-virus software. Here is a link you may find helpful, should you decide to reinstall SP2. It allows you to download the "FULL" SP2, which contains everything for all flavors of XP2. It's very large, around 260MB, but if you have a high speed connection, it would be relatively painless. If you can, burn it to a CD-R. Don't forget to delete it when you are done, or it will hog a lot of your hard drive space. Bill Crocker |
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I want to Remove Windows XP SP2
Yesterday, I was at Staples. They had a display of SP2 CD's at the front of
the store. I took one. MS is handing out free XP SP 2 cds in USA Staples stores. "Grandpa Jim" . wrote in message ... I removed XP SP 2 with System Restore. Worked good. "Tammy" wrote in message ... |
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