NTFS vs FAT32

Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

There is no problem with C: being NTFS and D: being FAT32. The contents of
a file are not affected by the file system because there is a layer between
the file system and your files that knows all that needs to be known about
storage. The only thing about D: being in FAT32 is that the maximum file
size is about 4.2GB.

Also, if you want to you can convert the FAT32 partition to NTFS whenever
you want.

"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

Let's simplify it:

Water from the same tap goes into two different containers, one round, one
square. The water is the same in both containers, the water tastes the
same, in all respects the water is the same, only the shape of the container
is different.

You can run NTFS and FAT32 partitions, that's not the problem. The reason
for running NTFS is security and stability. FAT32 partitions are prone to
corruption, the system crashes and the data on the partition can end up
corrupted. It doesn't mean it won't happen with NTFS but such corruption
due to crashes is less likely than in FAT32.

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Pretty much irrelevant in terms of the question you seem to be asking.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

Again, irrelevant. The file system has no effect on the data. If the file
is saved to an NTFS and a FAT partition, the file format is controlled
entirely by the application with which it is associated and whether it is
saved to an NTFS or a FAT32 partition makes no difference.

As to the floppy disk question, it has nothing to do with file system in use
since standard 1.44MB floppy disks all use the same file system regardless
of the file system in use on the hard drive. Assuming there are not
problems with the floppy itself or the drive in which it was made and
assuming the individual in your example on the Win98 system has an
application compatible with the file format being used by the file on the
floppy, the person with the Win98 computer should be able to read the floppy
and open the file in question.



--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

If I copy a file from Disk C (NTFS) with a spesific security permitions to
Disk D (FAT32) and then copy it back (modefied or not), what will happed to
the permitions?
Same question if I move the file.




"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Let's simplify it:

Water from the same tap goes into two different containers, one round, one
square. The water is the same in both containers, the water tastes the
same, in all respects the water is the same, only the shape of the container
is different.

You can run NTFS and FAT32 partitions, that's not the problem. The reason
for running NTFS is security and stability. FAT32 partitions are prone to
corruption, the system crashes and the data on the partition can end up
corrupted. It doesn't mean it won't happen with NTFS but such corruption
due to crashes is less likely than in FAT32.

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Pretty much irrelevant in terms of the question you seem to be asking.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

Again, irrelevant. The file system has no effect on the data. If the file
is saved to an NTFS and a FAT partition, the file format is controlled
entirely by the application with which it is associated and whether it is
saved to an NTFS or a FAT32 partition makes no difference.

As to the floppy disk question, it has nothing to do with file system in use
since standard 1.44MB floppy disks all use the same file system regardless
of the file system in use on the hard drive. Assuming there are not
problems with the floppy itself or the drive in which it was made and
assuming the individual in your example on the Win98 system has an
application compatible with the file format being used by the file on the
floppy, the person with the Win98 computer should be able to read the floppy
and open the file in question.



--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

"MSN" skrev i melding
...
My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

There are basically three things you should consider he

- Stability. As mentioned already, NTFS is safer than FAT32. NTFS is less
prone to corruption, and even if you still risk data corruption it is likely
to be less severe than on a FAT32 file system.

- Security and user rights. If there are multiple users on your system they
may or may not be able to access files on an NTFS file system (depending
on your security settings), and everybody will have full access to
everything on a FAT32 file system. Wether or not this is desirable is up to
you.

- Compatibility. If you install other operating systems on the computer
(such as Windows 98 or Linux) it will probably be easier to access FAT32
file systems than NTFS file systems from these operating systems.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The file itself will be the same. The only difference will be user rights.

Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

If you copy a file to a floppy it does not matter what file system it comes
from.

WinXP can read FAT12 (the file system used on 3.5" diskettes),
FAT16, FAT32, CDFS (the file system used on most CDs), and NTFS with
equal facility. Further, the file system on any one disk/partition or
diskette has absolutely no affect upon the operating system's ability
to read other compatible file systems on other disks/partitions.


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"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no
matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will
goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water
(data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk
D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is
there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data)
will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C
[container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs
W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

Because FAT32 has *NO* security capabilities, any file
copied/moved from an NTFS partition to a FAT32 partition will
naturally lose any specific permissions that had applied to it. When
a file is copied/moved from a FAT32 partition to an NTFS partition, it
will initially inherit whatever permissions apply to the folder into
which it is placed, but any further modifications of its assigned
permissions would have to be accomplished "manually."

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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having both at once. - RAH

"Alex Levi" wrote in message
...
If I copy a file from Disk C (NTFS) with a spesific security
permitions to
Disk D (FAT32) and then copy it back (modefied or not), what will
happed to
the permitions?
Same question if I move the file.

Thank you and understood XP is no problem to read all kind of format under
NTFS OS.

Presume my computer is multi booting. C is XP NTFS, D is W98 FAT32, and E is
W95 FAT16 operating system.

If a data text file saves in C, D, And E respectly. I think there is no
problem to read all files when running under NTFS. I also believe the said
file able save separately according to the "container's" format. How if I
run under W95 or W98? Can I read and edit C NTFS text file and save it back
accordingly. I doubt about it; as W95 (or and W98) don't have such "auto
conversion" to other disk's format.

Make it simple: Running under W95 (or W98), can it read files in C NTFS
format? What is the solution? I was told (last time), when your OS changed
to NTFS, it will unable to read or return back FAT format; is that so? How
to prevent it?

Thank you for information.

Chong


"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

It works like this, XP can read and see the partitions on which Windows 98
or 95 (Win95 is FAT32 but it doesn't matter for purposes of your example)
reside.

However, Windows 98 and 95 cannot read an NTFS partition, hence, if you wish
them to see and access the XP partition (And this has nothing to do with the
ability to read files saved in XP beyond being able to see and access the
partition) then XP would have to be on a FAT32 Partition.

"Make it simple: Running under W95 (or W98), can it read files in C NTFS
format?"

Your question makes the wrong assumption. Either 95 or 98 can read any file
created by an application on XP regardless of the file system used as long
as they have an application compatible with the file installed. However,
neither 95 nor 98 can see an NTFS partition so, if that is your desire, you
need to install XP to a FAT32 Partition. You can format the partition
designated for XP to FAT32 during XP setup.

"I was told (last time), when your OS changed
to NTFS, it will unable to read or return back FAT format; is that so? How
to prevent it?"

XP can read and write to a partition formatted to a FAT file system. If XP
is already using NTFS, XP has no native utilities to convert back to FAT32
without formatting but third party utilities such as XP compatible versions
of Partition Magic can convert the partition back to FAT32 without
formatting.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"MSN" wrote in message
...
Thank you and understood XP is no problem to read all kind of format under
NTFS OS.

Presume my computer is multi booting. C is XP NTFS, D is W98 FAT32, and E
is
W95 FAT16 operating system.

If a data text file saves in C, D, And E respectly. I think there is no
problem to read all files when running under NTFS. I also believe the said
file able save separately according to the "container's" format. How if I
run under W95 or W98? Can I read and edit C NTFS text file and save it
back
accordingly. I doubt about it; as W95 (or and W98) don't have such "auto
conversion" to other disk's format.

Make it simple: Running under W95 (or W98), can it read files in C NTFS
format? What is the solution? I was told (last time), when your OS changed
to NTFS, it will unable to read or return back FAT format; is that so? How
to prevent it?

Thank you for information.

Chong


"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water
(data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is
there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

If you ever have to redo the hard drive, rather than set up multi-boot again
consider running both Win95 and Win98 in Virtual PC 2004. They would run
under their own windows on your XP desktop and you could directly transfer
files through shared folders or a network. If you have 512MB of ram you
should be able to run all three at the same time.

It is also a very efficient usage of your hard drive since the virtual hard
drives for the 'guests' need only as much space on your hard drive as is
actually in use by the guests. See for details:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx

"MSN" wrote in message
...
Thank you and understood XP is no problem to read all kind of format under
NTFS OS.

Presume my computer is multi booting. C is XP NTFS, D is W98 FAT32, and E
is
W95 FAT16 operating system.

If a data text file saves in C, D, And E respectly. I think there is no
problem to read all files when running under NTFS. I also believe the said
file able save separately according to the "container's" format. How if I
run under W95 or W98? Can I read and edit C NTFS text file and save it
back
accordingly. I doubt about it; as W95 (or and W98) don't have such "auto
conversion" to other disk's format.

Make it simple: Running under W95 (or W98), can it read files in C NTFS
format? What is the solution? I was told (last time), when your OS changed
to NTFS, it will unable to read or return back FAT format; is that so? How
to prevent it?

Thank you for information.

Chong


"MSN" wrote in message
...
Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water
(data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is
there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong

MSN wrote:
Presume my computer is multi booting. C is XP NTFS, D is W98 FAT32,
and E is W95 FAT16 operating system.

Why would you want Windows 98 _and_ Windows 95? BTW, the latest versions of
Windows 95 also handles FAT32.

Make it simple: Running under W95 (or W98), can it read files in C
NTFS format? What is the solution? I was told (last time), when your
OS changed to NTFS, it will unable to read or return back FAT format;
is that so? How to prevent it?

There are no native NTFS support in Windows 95/98. However, there exists
third party utilities. Check out
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/fr...tfswin98.shtml

As for conversion of the file system, Windows 2000 and XP (NT?) contains
built in tools for FAT to NTFS conversion. But they contain no such tool for
NTFS to FAT conversion. To convert an NTFS file system to FAT(32) you will
again need to resort to third party software. For instance
http://www.symantec.com/partitionmagic/

MSN wrote:

Put it in this way:
You have different size [containers] A (NTFS) and B (FAT32). So no matter
WHERE the water (data) from or WHAT kind of water (data), it will goes
according to different shade of container; yet the quality of water (data)
still the same. Can I interpret in this way?

My worry is: Between NTFS and FAT32 format in my Disk C and D.
Meaning my XP is running in NTFS, but my data is saved in FAT32 Disk D.

Is safe to maintain in this way?
Base to concept, that should be fine.

Then how if I have a data file which saved in both C and D disks. Is there
any problem for editing and save afterward? Will the file (data) will be
saved to different format to C and D in NTFS and FAT32 again?

The extra question is:
Further more if I save it in a floppy disk consider as C [container].
In all cases, will there any problem later where I open this data
file in my system? How if I take the floppy disk to someone who runs W98?

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Chong


Floppy disks are formatted to FAT format,
so you don't have to worry about it.