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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP
prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
Just remember to remove Windows XP Pro from your 'old' machine. You can't
have it running on two machines, so reformat the hard drive on your old machine to get rid of the copy of XP on that and then install from your CD onto your new computer. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Is your OS retail or OEM? Antioch |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"antioch" wrote in message ... "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Is your OS retail or OEM? Antioch I bought the copy from Newegg.com, and I believe it is OEM. I usually put together my own systems from different parts and buy an OS at the same time. It's just been a few years since I've done this, and I hate to buy a new copy of XP and then another copy of Vista in (hopefully) just a few more months. What I plan to do is to load Linux on my old machine in the interim, just to play around with, so I will reformat my old machine and not have both machines loaded up with the same copy of XP. I know this comes up frequently on this newsgroup, but I'm not sure how many times you can reformat and reload the same copy. Seems like it would only be a problem if you were trying to use one copy on multiple computers. thx for the fast reply! |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Just remember to remove Windows XP Pro from your 'old' machine. You can't have it running on two machines, so reformat the hard drive on your old machine to get rid of the copy of XP on that and then install from your CD onto your new computer. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Thank you, John. I didn't actually think it would be a problem, but I wanted to make sure before I went through the hastle of reformatting my old machine (I have everything backed up on an ext. HD). I'll probably load up a copy of Linux on my old machine until after Vista comes out. (I hope that's not heresy around here!) |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
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I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? Do you have an OEM or retail license? An OEM version must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under _any_ circumstances. From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Assuming a retail license, yes. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... kevinbeall wrote: I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? Do you have an OEM or retail license? An OEM version must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under _any_ circumstances. Ahhh, I see. Looks like I can't transfer the licence, after all. I bought the CD from Newegg, but it was listed as OEM. Oh well, maybe Vista will be out relatively soon and I won't have to worry about it. I haven't actually ordered the parts for my new computer, yet. I could probably save some $$ by waiting until Intel and AMD come out with their versions of Quad Core/4x4... But, I should be able to reformat my old computer and reload the current version of XP on the same computer, correct? I need to get all of the clingons off and start fresh... thanks |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"kevinbeall" wrote in message . .. "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... kevinbeall wrote: I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? Do you have an OEM or retail license? An OEM version must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under _any_ circumstances. Ahhh, I see. Looks like I can't transfer the licence, after all. I bought the CD from Newegg, but it was listed as OEM. Oh well, maybe Vista will be out relatively soon and I won't have to worry about it. I haven't actually ordered the parts for my new computer, yet. I could probably save some $$ by waiting until Intel and AMD come out with their versions of Quad Core/4x4... But, I should be able to reformat my old computer and reload the current version of XP on the same computer, correct? I need to get all of the clingons off and start fresh... thanks Kevin There have been very heated exchanges within the xp groups for some time re the EULA - there are those who stick strictly to the rules of the EULA and others who can give workarounds as they feel it ridiculous that this is a restrictive practice of MS. To some degree, the workaround involves a free tel call to MS and you lie about your reasons for having to reinstall/activate etc. As yet, none of those who would make such a suggestion, have spotted your thread. As a decision for you is not immediate, you can always search in the groups, xp.general, xp.basic and xp.newusers, as well as that awful web interface discussion group. Keywords like, validation, changing motherboard, activating OEM. Personally I am in accord with Bruce on such matters, and perhaps should not encourage you. ;-) Rgds Antioch |
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antioch wrote:
There have been very heated exchanges within the xp groups for some time re the EULA - there are those who stick strictly to the rules of the EULA and others who can give workarounds as they feel it ridiculous that this is a restrictive practice of MS. It's not the matter of there being a "restrictive practice;" it's purely a matter of integrity. The OEM license costs significantly less then a retail license, one of the primary reasons being its lack of transferability. When the purchaser agrees to the OEM EULA, he's agreeing to a legally enforceable contract. When one violates the EULA, one is proving that one's word cannot be trusted and that one's signaturwe on any other sort of contract is worthless. To some degree, the workaround involves a free tel call to MS and you lie about your reasons for having to reinstall/activate etc. "Lie." Precisely. The "work-around" is for only those with no integrity. Thank you for proving the point. As yet, none of those who would make such a suggestion, have spotted your thread. As a decision for you is not immediate, you can always search in the groups, xp.general, xp.basic and xp.newusers, as well as that awful web interface discussion group. Keywords like, validation, changing motherboard, activating OEM. Personally I am in accord with Bruce on such matters, and perhaps should not encourage you. ;-) Rgds Antioch -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... antioch wrote: There have been very heated exchanges within the xp groups for some time re the EULA - there are those who stick strictly to the rules of the EULA and others who can give workarounds as they feel it ridiculous that this is a restrictive practice of MS. It's not the matter of there being a "restrictive practice;" it's purely a matter of integrity. The OEM license costs significantly less then a retail license, one of the primary reasons being its lack of transferability. When the purchaser agrees to the OEM EULA, he's agreeing to a legally enforceable contract. When one violates the EULA, one is proving that one's word cannot be trusted and that one's signaturwe on any other sort of contract is worthless. To some degree, the workaround involves a free tel call to MS and you lie about your reasons for having to reinstall/activate etc. "Lie." Precisely. The "work-around" is for only those with no integrity. Thank you for proving the point. As yet, none of those who would make such a suggestion, have spotted your thread. As a decision for you is not immediate, you can always search in the groups, xp.general, xp.basic and xp.newusers, as well as that awful web interface discussion group. Keywords like, validation, changing motherboard, activating OEM. Personally I am in accord with Bruce on such matters, and perhaps should not encourage you. ;-) Rgds Antioch -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell Well, I certainly didn't mean to open an old can of worms. I guess I am in a position where I am able to afford to pay for the software I use. Not having followed this information, and only remotely being aware of the controversy, I haven't formed a stance. I did not realize when I purchased "OEM" that I could not transfer the software to another computer (the computer being my own). But, that being said, I doubt it would have altered my decision, at that time. I really do appreciate your inputs... Kev |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... antioch wrote: There have been very heated exchanges within the xp groups for some time re the EULA - there are those who stick strictly to the rules of the EULA and others who can give workarounds as they feel it ridiculous that this is a restrictive practice of MS. It's not the matter of there being a "restrictive practice;" it's purely a matter of integrity. The OEM license costs significantly less then a retail license, one of the primary reasons being its lack of transferability. When the purchaser agrees to the OEM EULA, he's agreeing to a legally enforceable contract. When one violates the EULA, one is proving that one's word cannot be trusted and that one's signaturwe on any other sort of contract is worthless. To some degree, the workaround involves a free tel call to MS and you lie about your reasons for having to reinstall/activate etc. "Lie." Precisely. The "work-around" is for only those with no integrity. Thank you for proving the point. As yet, none of those who would make such a suggestion, have spotted your thread. As a decision for you is not immediate, you can always search in the groups, xp.general, xp.basic and xp.newusers, as well as that awful web interface discussion group. Keywords like, validation, changing motherboard, activating OEM. Personally I am in accord with Bruce on such matters, and perhaps should not encourage you. ;-) Rgds Antioch Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Phew - why do I feel as if I have just had a good bollocking :-o Antioch |
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'kevinbeall' wrote:
| Well, I certainly didn't mean to open an old can of worms. I guess I am in | a position where I am able to afford to pay for the software I use. Not | having followed this information, and only remotely being aware of the | controversy, I haven't formed a stance. I did not realize when I purchased | "OEM" that I could not transfer the software to another computer (the | computer being my own). But, that being said, I doubt it would have altered | my decision, at that time. I really do appreciate your inputs Also, no matter whether or not the XP Pro you have is OEM or retail, your scenario does not permit legally installing a Windows Vista Upgrade version. Phil Weldon "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... | Well, I certainly didn't mean to open an old can of worms. I guess I am in | a position where I am able to afford to pay for the software I use. Not | having followed this information, and only remotely being aware of the | controversy, I haven't formed a stance. I did not realize when I purchased | "OEM" that I could not transfer the software to another computer (the | computer being my own). But, that being said, I doubt it would have altered | my decision, at that time. I really do appreciate your inputs... | | Kev | | |
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Reinstalling WinXP on a new computer (licence question)
If it is OEM it is permanently locked to the first pc it is activated on and
cannot legally be moved to another pc. -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... "antioch" wrote in message ... "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Is your OS retail or OEM? Antioch I bought the copy from Newegg.com, and I believe it is OEM. I usually put together my own systems from different parts and buy an OS at the same time. It's just been a few years since I've done this, and I hate to buy a new copy of XP and then another copy of Vista in (hopefully) just a few more months. What I plan to do is to load Linux on my old machine in the interim, just to play around with, so I will reformat my old machine and not have both machines loaded up with the same copy of XP. I know this comes up frequently on this newsgroup, but I'm not sure how many times you can reformat and reload the same copy. Seems like it would only be a problem if you were trying to use one copy on multiple computers. thx for the fast reply! |
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Why would that be heresy?
A lot of us like Linux G -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Just remember to remove Windows XP Pro from your 'old' machine. You can't have it running on two machines, so reformat the hard drive on your old machine to get rid of the copy of XP on that and then install from your CD onto your new computer. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Thank you, John. I didn't actually think it would be a problem, but I wanted to make sure before I went through the hastle of reformatting my old machine (I have everything backed up on an ext. HD). I'll probably load up a copy of Linux on my old machine until after Vista comes out. (I hope that's not heresy around here!) |
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Indeed.
-- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Larry Samuels" wrote in message ... Why would that be heresy? A lot of us like Linux G -- Larry Samuels Associate Expert MS-MVP (2001-2005) Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Just remember to remove Windows XP Pro from your 'old' machine. You can't have it running on two machines, so reformat the hard drive on your old machine to get rid of the copy of XP on that and then install from your CD onto your new computer. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "kevinbeall" wrote in message ... I am building a new computer and I have a question about my copy of WinXP prof. Here is the disclaimer on the Microsoft website: Software Media, Manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity The software media, manuals, and Certificate of Authenticity may only be transferred to another end user if the PC on which it was installed is also transferred. If you acquired your Windows Desktop operating system as a full-packaged product through retail or your reseller, then you have the right to uninstall from one PC and reinstall to your new PC. My question: I am building a new computer that will be Windows Vista capable. I want to transfer my old copy of WinXP to my new computer until Vista comes out. Then I would like to buy a copy of Vista for my new computer and re-download XP back to my old machine. Will this be a problem for me in any way? From reading the disclaimer, it looks like that is okay. Both copies of the OS's will be bought and paid for. Anyone see any potential problems with this? I guess each time you reinstall the OS, you have to use your product ID code? kev Thank you, John. I didn't actually think it would be a problem, but I wanted to make sure before I went through the hastle of reformatting my old machine (I have everything backed up on an ext. HD). I'll probably load up a copy of Linux on my old machine until after Vista comes out. (I hope that's not heresy around here!) |
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