modem question and modem string wanted

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Greg typed on Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:00:44 -0500:
The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

Hi Greg! Did you check the sound mixer? The control might be in there.
Otherwise it doesn't look good. Was there a speaker mounted on the modem
card?

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Greg wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:56:46 -0500, MEB
wrote:

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:49 -0500, MEB
wrote:

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)
The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.
I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.
Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series

Greg
Greg, I gave you the ATI commands so you could find out exactly what
this modem is, firmware, etc.. It might help to solve your issues if you
were to provide the group with that information, and would certainly end
the debate on controllerless or not, and what potential software you
might need.

It sure would help to know..
MEB., That reply was for 98guy. Not you.



To All,
My computer specs again.
5 drive bays.
2 Memory slots-on board
P3 500 mhz cpu
5 pci slots or 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot.
2 ISA slots
Two USB 1.0/1.1-on board slots
One printer port -on board slots
Two serial ports-on board slots
One ps2 keyboard port-on board slot
One ps2 mouse port on-board slot
On board sound cards (Still works but using the ISA sound card, I
bought for dos game compatibility)


Trying to the fix the confusion.
My previous modem was a pci modem. Which worked fine until it quit
and it was a winmodem as well.

The modem, I am using now, is an ISA modem. This is only temporary.
Tell my pci modem comes in. Hopefully, with drivers for both 98se
and xp.

I will possible keep the isa modem installed, because it works with
puppy Linux.


Greg


Okay, Greg, continue to talk about it in THEORY, or supply what the
group actually needs, the MODEM device ID, firmware, etc., which comes
via running the ATI* commands which I provided using a terminal program.
The AT&V information would also be valuable. [those commands were shown
with a small i to avoid confusion with a 1]
Unless you're careful in your purchase, the new PCI modem will be
controllerless... perhaps you would like some suggestions on what to
potentially look for, for cross-platform compatibility, or have you
already purchased the new modem?


Your confusing the issue and me.

I already ordered the pci modem, it suppose to have driver for both
98se and xp.

On the ISA modem, I am using, it is temporary for 98se.

The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

The other reasons, it was not showing the DTE speed.

You could of been simple and said put this string in like this

AT+W2 L0

Greg


Come on Greg, that still supplies nothing from which to work. We need
the actual modem DETAILS obtainable via the ATI* commands I gave you.

And as I explained, the command should be placed together with no
spaces or comma or anything else. So what it would like using your
supplied string would be:

ATW2L0 - but that leaves it unwritten permanently, so add &W1 or &W2
depending upon which profile the MAIN string is using [either as shown
or available via the AT&V command].
{&V - Display Current Configuration and Stored Profiles.}
(&Wn - Store Current Configuration)

If this is your desired string, then add it or modify the existing, if
possible, to the main string as W2L0

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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:40:13 -0500, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed:

Greg wrote:

The reason for a PCI graphic card, was my onboard video card
was acting up. (I know it is a sign of my motherboard going
bad. I just hope it can hold up tell tax time).

What motherboard with ISA slots has on-board video???

My PCChips M571 with SiS 5597/5598 chipset.

- Franc Zabkar
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:00:44 -0500, Greg put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Your confusing the issue and me.

I already ordered the pci modem, it suppose to have driver for both
98se and xp.

If you post the modem's ATIn responses, then we would know whether it
is a controller-based type, in which case XP would need no drivers,
only an INF file.

In Win98SE, go to Control Panel - Modems - Diagnostics, select your
modem, and select More Info.

On the ISA modem, I am using, it is temporary for 98se.

The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

The reason there is no volume control is because you have installed
the modem with the wrong INF file, probably a standard Windows INF.

Once again, if you post the ATIn responses, or better still, post the
numbers on the modem chips, then we will be able to help you.

The other reasons, it was not showing the DTE speed.

You could of been simple and said put this string in like this

AT+W2 L0

Greg

In Extra Settings you don't need the "AT" prefix. Spaces are OK,
though. The appropriate Wn command is W2, not +W2.

- Franc Zabkar
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:17:07 -0600, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Greg typed on Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:00:44 -0500:
The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

Hi Greg! Did you check the sound mixer? The control might be in there.
Otherwise it doesn't look good. Was there a speaker mounted on the modem
card?


I found my old drivers for windows 98se. That eliminated the sound
problem

The correct AT codes

It L0 for low volume is M0 for muting the speaker.
0=number zero

This is what I have in the extra settings and it is working.

AT W2

or I could of used this

AT M0 W2

some cirrus modem may require this

AT &F M0 W2

(There) is a space between the T and & symbol.

Greg

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:00:44 -0500, Greg put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Your confusing the issue and me.

I already ordered the pci modem, it suppose to have driver for both
98se and xp.

If you post the modem's ATIn responses, then we would know whether it
is a controller-based type, in which case XP would need no drivers,
only an INF file.

In Win98SE, go to Control Panel - Modems - Diagnostics, select your
modem, and select More Info.

Wow, that's a duh moment for me... thinking DOS, or some terminal
program diagnostics.


On the ISA modem, I am using, it is temporary for 98se.

The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

The reason there is no volume control is because you have installed
the modem with the wrong INF file, probably a standard Windows INF.

Once again, if you post the ATIn responses, or better still, post the
numbers on the modem chips, then we will be able to help you.

The other reasons, it was not showing the DTE speed.

You could of been simple and said put this string in like this

AT+W2 L0

Greg

In Extra Settings you don't need the "AT" prefix. Spaces are OK,
though. The appropriate Wn command is W2, not +W2.

- Franc Zabkar

Hmm, I was always under the impression the string inclusions must be
kept together or the additional were ignored. And my favorite comm
program QModem [IIRC] did require the AT. Other used or tested may have
required or not if the program auto sent AT. But yeah, again I suppose
you're talking Windows settings... I wonder where these are actually
being entered. DUN maybe?

Maybe a couple more links:
http://www.netfaqs.com/windows/dun/w...odem/index.asp
specific V90/92 other per specific modem
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/test.test111/inits.txt
Cirrus Logic Modem Drivers - 213 drivers found
http://www.modem-drivers.com/companies/216.htm

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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:36:44 -0500, MEB put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Hmm, I was always under the impression the string inclusions must be
kept together or the additional were ignored.

My Rockwelloid tolerates spaces and mixed case. However, I agree that
no spaces and all uppercase is safer.

And my favorite comm
program QModem [IIRC] did require the AT. Other used or tested may have
required or not if the program auto sent AT. But yeah, again I suppose
you're talking Windows settings... I wonder where these are actually
being entered. DUN maybe?

Yes, DUN supplies the AT. There is a key in the registry where the
Extra Settings are stored.

Examine your modemlog and you will find several initialisation lines,
including one for the Extra Settings.

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:36:44 -0500, MEB put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Hmm, I was always under the impression the string inclusions must be
kept together or the additional were ignored.

My Rockwelloid tolerates spaces and mixed case. However, I agree that
no spaces and all uppercase is safer.

And my favorite comm
program QModem [IIRC] did require the AT. Other used or tested may have
required or not if the program auto sent AT. But yeah, again I suppose
you're talking Windows settings... I wonder where these are actually
being entered. DUN maybe?

Yes, DUN supplies the AT. There is a key in the registry where the
Extra Settings are stored.

Examine your modemlog and you will find several initialization lines,
including one for the Extra Settings.

- Franc Zabkar

Thanks Franc, been so long since I actually messed with my own [just
use the standard init strings put together several years ago for my
modems] or others' modem settings, I am losing the knowledge. Oh well...

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