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I just got a new system with NO OS on it.
I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. Thank You for any help. |
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... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? Not with native XP tools. These do not allow change of partition sizes, only creation and deletion. With the native tools, you would first create a slipstreamed copy of the XP install CD, and start over, deleting and recreating the partition. This will also save you from having to download and install the basic service packs - they will already be in place. The other option is to attach the drive to another XP system, delete and recreate the partition to the full size of the drive, and then re-install, NOT choosing to partition the drive. Then, once the install is complete, you can install SP2 then SP3, then further updates. Better to slipstream. IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? The problem with your drive size is that your XP install CD is pre-SP1. It's unlikely that it's a limitation of the board, which was the other possibility. Whether you use 32 or 64 bit is *not* an issue, it was a defect in the original XP partitioning utility. Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. Not unless you are installing a 64-bit version of XP. No 32-bit version will give you access to any memory above around 3.2 gig. If you are installing XP 64, be sure that you can get and have on hand drivers, first. They may not be available, meaning that the install will always be broken. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. No, just slipstream it to SP2 or SP3, or attach the drive to another system and re-partition and re-format the drive, and redo the install. HTH -pk Thank You for any help. |
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"Chuck" wrote in message
... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? Not with native XP tools. These do not allow change of partition sizes, only creation and deletion. With the native tools, you would first create a slipstreamed copy of the XP install CD, and start over, deleting and recreating the partition. This will also save you from having to download and install the basic service packs - they will already be in place. The other option is to attach the drive to another XP system, delete and recreate the partition to the full size of the drive, and then re-install, NOT choosing to partition the drive. Then, once the install is complete, you can install SP2 then SP3, then further updates. Better to slipstream. IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? The problem with your drive size is that your XP install CD is pre-SP1. It's unlikely that it's a limitation of the board, which was the other possibility. Whether you use 32 or 64 bit is *not* an issue, it was a defect in the original XP partitioning utility. Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. Not unless you are installing a 64-bit version of XP. No 32-bit version will give you access to any memory above around 3.2 gig. If you are installing XP 64, be sure that you can get and have on hand drivers, first. They may not be available, meaning that the install will always be broken. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. No, just slipstream it to SP2 or SP3, or attach the drive to another system and re-partition and re-format the drive, and redo the install. HTH -pk Thank You for any help. |
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Patrick Keenan wrote: snip "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. snip You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD. You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Patrick Keenan wrote: snip "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. snip You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD. You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... snip Patrick Keenan wrote: snip "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. snip You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD. You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first. Thanks for the clarification -pk -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... snip Patrick Keenan wrote: snip "Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD. I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD burner. You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too. snip You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD. You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first. Thanks for the clarification -pk -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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"Chuck" wrote in message ... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. Thank You for any help. In addition to the XP slipstream information that was so ably answered by Patrick and Shenan, have you downloaded all the XP drivers for your new system? If not, I would recommend having them all available prior to any attempt to install the OS. It may be that your new system won't have XP drivers available for some or most of the new hardware in the computer. You may be stuck with Vista which would then entail purchasing the Vista OS of your choice. Is the XP Pro CD you have a retail version or did it come with your old "fried" system? If it came with the old system it is probably OEM and can not "legally" be installed onto the new system anyhow. |
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"Chuck" wrote in message ... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. Thank You for any help. In addition to the XP slipstream information that was so ably answered by Patrick and Shenan, have you downloaded all the XP drivers for your new system? If not, I would recommend having them all available prior to any attempt to install the OS. It may be that your new system won't have XP drivers available for some or most of the new hardware in the computer. You may be stuck with Vista which would then entail purchasing the Vista OS of your choice. Is the XP Pro CD you have a retail version or did it come with your old "fried" system? If it came with the old system it is probably OEM and can not "legally" be installed onto the new system anyhow. |
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Create a "Slipstreamed" version of XP that incorporates SP3
AutoStreamer, it's easy to use and for the most part self explanatory. After you create the CD then do a "Clean Install", see the last part of my reply. Auto Streamer Guide and Download Sites: http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/u...streamer.shtml http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1 Where to download SP3 (This file will be used in created the slipstreamed CD) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP3 http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm (Using AutoStreamer) http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstre...3_cd_final.htm http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp The slipstreamed CD you create will not include any specific drivers for your motherboard, audio, video, network, etc. Those you will need to download from your PC manufacture's or motherboard's web site. How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP Start by changing the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first. Then see below: From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_in...windows_xp.htm also: http://www.bootdisk.com/ How to optimize your chances of installing Windows XP SP3 successfully: http://www.pagestart.com/windowsxpsp3p3pg8.html -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Chuck" wrote in message ... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. Thank You for any help. |
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Create a "Slipstreamed" version of XP that incorporates SP3
AutoStreamer, it's easy to use and for the most part self explanatory. After you create the CD then do a "Clean Install", see the last part of my reply. Auto Streamer Guide and Download Sites: http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/u...streamer.shtml http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1 Where to download SP3 (This file will be used in created the slipstreamed CD) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP3 http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm (Using AutoStreamer) http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstre...3_cd_final.htm http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp The slipstreamed CD you create will not include any specific drivers for your motherboard, audio, video, network, etc. Those you will need to download from your PC manufacture's or motherboard's web site. How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP Start by changing the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first. Then see below: From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_in...windows_xp.htm also: http://www.bootdisk.com/ How to optimize your chances of installing Windows XP SP3 successfully: http://www.pagestart.com/windowsxpsp3p3pg8.html -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Chuck" wrote in message ... I just got a new system with NO OS on it. I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP. Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids. I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2... but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows XP load see the entire HD? IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive (Maybe?)? Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at the same time. I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased. Thank You for any help. |
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