IDE ZIP 250 - old problem, curious for answers

I have an IDE ZIP 250 on my ASUS PC using Intel chip-set.

The ASUS BIOS recognizes the drive is on the IDE secondary chennel at POST
(master) . However WinXP has never "automatically" Plug 'n Played with the
drive. Once the PC is booted and quiescent I can go to Device Manager and
"scan for hardware changes and the ZIP drive is added. I have always had
that issue. Never really a problem but I am curious as to why it has never
automatically Plug 'n Played upon bootup.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

David H. Lipman wrote:

I have an IDE ZIP 250 on my ASUS PC using Intel chip-set.

The ASUS BIOS recognizes the drive is on the IDE secondary chennel at
POST (master) . However WinXP has never "automatically" Plug 'n
Played with the drive. Once the PC is booted and quiescent I can go
to Device Manager and "scan for hardware changes and the ZIP drive is
added. I have always had that issue. Never really a problem but I
am curious as to why it has never automatically Plug 'n Played upon
bootup.

Have you ever installed the IomegaWare?

http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/10425.html#onea
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/app/platform/p/1,16

I've never had that device on my hosts. My aunt has one on her
computer and I remember having to install this software which includes
the driver for it.

While the device might be detectable using a standard device type for
which an interface or driver is bundled in Windows, that doesn't mean
full support is provided for the device using those generic definitions.
As I recall (and this is from ancient memory), Iomega loads a startup
program (other than a driver) that remains resident to provide the
interface to their hardware.

From: "VanguardLH"

David H. Lipman wrote:

I have an IDE ZIP 250 on my ASUS PC using Intel chip-set.

The ASUS BIOS recognizes the drive is on the IDE secondary chennel at
POST (master) . However WinXP has never "automatically" Plug 'n
Played with the drive. Once the PC is booted and quiescent I can go
to Device Manager and "scan for hardware changes and the ZIP drive is
added. I have always had that issue. Never really a problem but I
am curious as to why it has never automatically Plug 'n Played upon
bootup.

Have you ever installed the IomegaWare?

http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/10425.html#onea
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/app/platform/p/1,16

I've never had that device on my hosts. My aunt has one on her
computer and I remember having to install this software which includes
the driver for it.

While the device might be detectable using a standard device type for
which an interface or driver is bundled in Windows, that doesn't mean
full support is provided for the device using those generic definitions.
As I recall (and this is from ancient memory), Iomega loads a startup
program (other than a driver) that remains resident to provide the
interface to their hardware.

For sure. All the software is really for Drive Icons, Parallel port driver,
etc.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

From: "VanguardLH"

David H. Lipman wrote:

I have an IDE ZIP 250 on my ASUS PC using Intel chip-set.

The ASUS BIOS recognizes the drive is on the IDE secondary chennel at
POST (master) . However WinXP has never "automatically" Plug 'n
Played with the drive. Once the PC is booted and quiescent I can go
to Device Manager and "scan for hardware changes and the ZIP drive is
added. I have always had that issue. Never really a problem but I
am curious as to why it has never automatically Plug 'n Played upon
bootup.

Have you ever installed the IomegaWare?

http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/10425.html#onea
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/app/platform/p/1,16

I've never had that device on my hosts. My aunt has one on her
computer and I remember having to install this software which includes
the driver for it.

While the device might be detectable using a standard device type for
which an interface or driver is bundled in Windows, that doesn't mean
full support is provided for the device using those generic definitions.
As I recall (and this is from ancient memory), Iomega loads a startup
program (other than a driver) that remains resident to provide the
interface to their hardware.


The below graphic shows the icon of a ZIP250 (albeit it an external drive icon) and is
assigned to drive "K:" and Iomegaware is installed.

http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/Image11.jpg

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "VanguardLH"

David H. Lipman wrote:

I have an IDE ZIP 250 on my ASUS PC using Intel chip-set.

The ASUS BIOS recognizes the drive is on the IDE secondary chennel
at
POST (master) . However WinXP has never "automatically" Plug 'n
Played with the drive. Once the PC is booted and quiescent I can go
to Device Manager and "scan for hardware changes and the ZIP drive
is
added. I have always had that issue. Never really a problem but I
am curious as to why it has never automatically Plug 'n Played upon
bootup.

Have you ever installed the IomegaWare?

http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/10425.html#onea
https://iomega-na-en.custhelp.com/app/platform/p/1,16

I've never had that device on my hosts. My aunt has one on her
computer and I remember having to install this software which
includes
the driver for it.

While the device might be detectable using a standard device type for
which an interface or driver is bundled in Windows, that doesn't mean
full support is provided for the device using those generic
definitions.
As I recall (and this is from ancient memory), Iomega loads a startup
program (other than a driver) that remains resident to provide the
interface to their hardware.


The below graphic shows the icon of a ZIP250 (albeit it an external
drive icon) and is assigned to drive "K:" and Iomegaware is installed.

http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/Image11.jpg


If the drive is jumpered correctly and the Iomega software is installed
(or reinstalled if you suspect an issue with the software), try this,
from the online Iomega Zip troubleshooter:

paste

STEP SIX - Make sure your computer's BIOS is not controlling your Zip
ATAPI drive

The Zip ATAPI and Zip Notebook drives are supported by drivers loaded
with the operating system. If your computer's BIOS is controlling your
drive, these drivers may not detect or control the drive properly and
your drive may not be recognized or function properly.
Locate the IDE Device Configuration/Setup portion of your BIOS. This
section will usually list four IDE channels: Primary Master, Primary
Slave, Secondary Master and Secondary Slave.

Disable the IDE channel your Zip drive is connected to by setting it to
None, Disabled or Not Installed. If your computer's BIOS will not allow
disabling the IDE controller, the BIOS is not capable of supporting the
Zip ATAPI or Notebook Zip drive. If this is the case, you may be able to
obtain a BIOS upgrade from your computer's manufacturer.

Save the changes and exit the BIOS.

Restart your computer into Windows.

Double-click the My Computer icon to see if your drive is listed.


If you have a drive letter for your Zip drive, the problem is resolved.

If there is no drive letter for your Zip drive, continue with the next
step.


STEP SEVEN - Change the position of the Zip ATAPI drive on the IDE
controller

There are two IDE connectors on your computer. The first IDE connector's
(Primary) Master configuration is reserved for the computer's C: drive.
You can connect your Zip ATAPI drive to the Primary connector if your
Zip ATAPI drive is set to Slave. You can connect your Zip drive to the
second (Secondary) IDE controller in either the Master or Slave
configuration.

/paste

--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

From: "glee"



The below graphic shows the icon of a ZIP250 (albeit it an external drive
icon) and is assigned to drive "K:" and Iomegaware is installed.

http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/Image11.jpg

If the drive is jumpered correctly and the Iomega software is installed
(or reinstalled if you suspect an issue with the software), try this, from
the online Iomega Zip troubleshooter:

paste

STEP SIX - Make sure your computer's BIOS is not controlling your Zip
ATAPI drive

The Zip ATAPI and Zip Notebook drives are supported by drivers loaded with
the operating system. If your computer's BIOS is controlling your drive,
these drivers may not detect or control the drive properly and your drive
may not be recognized or function properly.
Locate the IDE Device Configuration/Setup portion of your BIOS. This
section will usually list four IDE channels: Primary Master, Primary
Slave, Secondary Master and Secondary Slave.

Disable the IDE channel your Zip drive is connected to by setting it to
None, Disabled or Not Installed. If your computer's BIOS will not allow
disabling the IDE controller, the BIOS is not capable of supporting the
Zip ATAPI or Notebook Zip drive. If this is the case, you may be able to
obtain a BIOS upgrade from your computer's manufacturer.

Save the changes and exit the BIOS.

Restart your computer into Windows.

Double-click the My Computer icon to see if your drive is listed.

If you have a drive letter for your Zip drive, the problem is resolved.

If there is no drive letter for your Zip drive, continue with the next
step.

STEP SEVEN - Change the position of the Zip ATAPI drive on the IDE
controller

There are two IDE connectors on your computer. The first IDE connector's
(Primary) Master configuration is reserved for the computer's C: drive.
You can connect your Zip ATAPI drive to the Primary connector if your Zip
ATAPI drive is set to Slave. You can connect your Zip drive to the second
(Secondary) IDE controller in either the Master or Slave configuration.

/paste


BINGO Glen!

Step 6. To think it was that...all these years.

It was enabled and the BIOS showed the ZIP drive.

Now set to "none" it is not shown in BIOS or during POST but the OS Plug 'n
Played it w/o user intervention.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "glee"



The below graphic shows the icon of a ZIP250 (albeit it an external
drive icon) and is assigned to drive "K:" and Iomegaware is
installed.

http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/Image11.jpg

If the drive is jumpered correctly and the Iomega software is
installed (or reinstalled if you suspect an issue with the software),
try this, from the online Iomega Zip troubleshooter:

paste

STEP SIX - Make sure your computer's BIOS is not controlling your Zip
ATAPI drive

The Zip ATAPI and Zip Notebook drives are supported by drivers loaded
with the operating system. If your computer's BIOS is controlling
your drive, these drivers may not detect or control the drive
properly and your drive may not be recognized or function properly.
Locate the IDE Device Configuration/Setup portion of your BIOS. This
section will usually list four IDE channels: Primary Master, Primary
Slave, Secondary Master and Secondary Slave.

Disable the IDE channel your Zip drive is connected to by setting it
to None, Disabled or Not Installed. If your computer's BIOS will not
allow disabling the IDE controller, the BIOS is not capable of
supporting the Zip ATAPI or Notebook Zip drive. If this is the case,
you may be able to obtain a BIOS upgrade from your computer's
manufacturer.

Save the changes and exit the BIOS.

Restart your computer into Windows.

Double-click the My Computer icon to see if your drive is listed.

If you have a drive letter for your Zip drive, the problem is
resolved.

If there is no drive letter for your Zip drive, continue with the
next step.

STEP SEVEN - Change the position of the Zip ATAPI drive on the IDE
controller

There are two IDE connectors on your computer. The first IDE
connector's (Primary) Master configuration is reserved for the
computer's C: drive. You can connect your Zip ATAPI drive to the
Primary connector if your Zip ATAPI drive is set to Slave. You can
connect your Zip drive to the second (Secondary) IDE controller in
either the Master or Slave configuration.

/paste


BINGO Glen!

Step 6. To think it was that...all these years.

It was enabled and the BIOS showed the ZIP drive.

Now set to "none" it is not shown in BIOS or during POST but the OS
Plug 'n Played it w/o user intervention.


Yay!
It's been a long time since I've worked with a zip drive.... there's a
few gotchas like that.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

From: "glee"

BINGO Glen!

Step 6. To think it was that...all these years.

It was enabled and the BIOS showed the ZIP drive.

Now set to "none" it is not shown in BIOS or during POST but the OS Plug
'n Played it w/o user intervention.

Yay!
It's been a long time since I've worked with a zip drive.... there's a few
gotchas like that.

I have always used them on this ASUS based system.
First - SCSI ZIP 100 - click of death.
2cnd - External USB ZIP 250 - physical problem causing disk extraction
problem.
3rd - Internal IDE ZIP 250 (current).

The vast majority of the Dell Desktops I've supported (WinXP & Win2K) were
IDE ZIP 250. When we went to Vista and the Dell desktops were SATA, I
removed the IDE drives from older computers. I used IDE to SATA interfaces
and worked quite well under Vista.

I also had a PCMCIA based ZIP 250. It was handy on notebooks getting the
user upgraded to Vista and their data ported. ZIP disks and drives were
"handy" for random read/random write where a policy negating "USB Mass
Storage Devices" was strictly enforced across the Domain.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp