Opera NewsGroup Gone?

In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general

Now It seems not to work.
11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.

Is there an alternative?

Or maybe someone here can answer.

How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
attachments (if any) to show up.

Opera 12.16 build 1860

Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support
eMail, browsing and newsgroups?

TIA



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OldGuy wrote:
In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general

Now It seems not to work.
11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.

The name news.opera.com resolves but there is no answer/ID on port 119.

The group opera.general and other opera.* groups are carried by my
general usenet server and there are messages in that group as recently
as 12/26.

If your netfront doesn't carry the opera groups, eternal-september does.

Is there an alternative?

Or maybe someone here can answer.

How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
attachments (if any) to show up.

Opera 12.16 build 1860

I don't currently have an Opera installed, but there is an opera mail
tutorial here which might have something in it

http://www.opera.com/help/tutorials/mail/ Opera Mail Tutorial ... to
expand on the basic information in Opera Help - Email and News.

Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support eMail,
browsing and newsgroups?

A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
doesn't adequately support.


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Mike Easter

On 1/3/2014 4:20 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
doesn't adequately support.

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use
Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites doesn't
support Opera.

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

BillW50 wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:

A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
doesn't adequately support.

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use
Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites doesn't
support Opera.

This is a very old faq about f=f http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html The
format=flowed FAQ

Eudora 'fostered' the f=f format
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1626hq.html

It became a 'standard' with a couple of RFCs, the newest of which is
3676 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676 As Text/Plain messages are
quoted in replies or forwarded messages,each line gradually increases in
length, eventually being arbitrarily hard wrapped, resulting in
"embarrassing line wrap". This produces text which is, at best, hard to
read, and often confuses attributions. ... What is desired is a format
which is in all significant ways Text/Plain, and therefore is quite
suitable for display as Text/Plain, and yet allows the sender to express
to the receiver which lines can be considered a logical paragraph, and
thus flowed (wrapped and joined) as appropriate.

Tb claims to be/support f=f but it is not properly compliant for the
all-important quoted text
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text..._-_Thunderbird By default,
support for flowed plain-text format is enabled.

Opera DOES support f=f compliantly.

.... which has nothing to do with browser business.

Re your webserver opera support issue:

Some people who have problems with websites not supporting their browser
use an add-on to announce/disguise their browser as something else
http://browserfame.com/265/opera-ide...ask-difference Opera
provides a built-in solution for this problem where the users can spoof
their browser identity and fool web servers. Opera offers two types of
settings to fight with browser discrimination:


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Mike Easter

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:38:06 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general

Now It seems not to work.
11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.

Is there an alternative?

Or maybe someone here can answer.

How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
attachments (if any) to show up.

Opera 12.16 build 1860

Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support eMail,
browsing and newsgroups?

TIA
...snip...

Did you try their forums?
customize
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=28
chat and news
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=32

OldGuy wrote (in part):

...is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support
eMail, browsing and newsgroups?

You might take a look at Seamonkey: Internet browser, email &
newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about

"BillW50" wrote in message ...
On 1/3/2014 4:20 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
doesn't adequately support.

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most
websites doesn't support Opera.


Dam I Use Opera
Too and me turned off
Is most of the time when
O'Most All web-Sites
Doesn't support IE8.
As we move in to HTML5

Opera News Die

No'oooooooo
Seeing is believing


http://web.css.alt.mynews.ath.cx:81/...ge_Story_1.jpg
http://web.css.alt.mynews.ath.cx:81/...ge_Story_2.jpg
http://web.css.alt.mynews.ath.cx:81/...ge_Story_3.jpg

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:04:25 -0700, Evan Platt
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:53:45 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use
Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites doesn't
support Opera.

What? I use opera as my primary browser, and have yet to come across a
website that doesn't support it.

Opera is also my main browser and there are SEVERAL that fail for me, the
most recent is Maricopa County Assessor's website showing parcel maps.
GSIS, or something like that.

Not sure why, but craigslist with the SIMPLEST website can still read, but
now fails if I try to click on REPLY or CONTACT button at the top left of
a posting. Have to go to the [spit, spit curse begone] WinXP with IE?? on
it to get to those two.

In ,
Evan Platt typed:
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:53:45 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to
use Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites
doesn't support Opera.

What? I use opera as my primary browser, and have yet to come across a
website that doesn't support it.

I use titantv.com all of the time and I was using Opera v10 at the time
and it wouldn't show it correctly. Also Firefox isn't perfect on that
site either. As the programs that I set to record, I copy and paste the
popup info for the selected program. If you try to copy with Firefox,
the popup disappears so there is nothing for Firefox to copy now.
Maxthon (using the webkit engine) or IE works just fine though.

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Bill
Motion Computing LE1700 Tablet ('09 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo L7400 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 SP2