MS Works [ Atlantis Word Processor]

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
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I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.

Some have speculated about the reasons MS dropped Works, usually
speculating they didn't want to draw sales away from Office. I suspect
there is some truth to that, but possibly MS saw no reason to develop

I think it may also have impacted their revenue in another way: it was
pretty undemanding in terms of hardware requirements compared to Office,
so people could put off upgrading their computer: a new computer would
have come with a new copy of Windows, of course.

competing products, even though I think they could have sold a lot more
copies of Works than they were had they seriously marketed it. Which
leads me to wonder how many sales to MS were lost because people
didn't want to pay the price for Office, and since there was no Works,
they went elsewhere.

But I think not in large numbers; I don't think the competing prog.s
were much cheaper (mainly WordPerfect at that time IIRR).
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

On 2/13/14 7:12 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

But Works used to be bundled with other software packages on some
computer systems. My Dell with Win 98 came with version 4 of Works.


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In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Works.

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

The last few versions of Works came with Word as their WP rather than
the original Works one.
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J. P. Gilliver (John) typed:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.

Actually they were a separate product from MS Works. And they came under
the following names:

Home Essentials 97
Home Essentials 98
Works Suite 99
Works Deluxe 99
Works Suite 2000
Works Suite 2001
Works Suite 2002
Works Suite 2003
Works Suite 2004
Works Suite 2005
Works Suite 2006
Works Plus 2008

They included a lot more than just Word (except for Works Plus 2008).
For example, Works Suite 2006 also included Encarta Standard, Money,
Streets and Trips Essentials, and Digital Image Standard. The Chicago
Tribune called them as "one of the best bargains ever offered."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Works

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Bill
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Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:17:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/13/14 7:12 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

But Works used to be bundled with other software packages on some
computer systems. My Dell with Win 98 came with version 4 of Works.



Yes, but it was bundled by Dell in what they sold you. It did *not*
come with Windows. Some OEM machines were also bundled with Microsoft
Office.

On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:17:31 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Works.



Ah, sorry for misunderstanding you.

On 2/14/14 8:37 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:17:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/13/14 7:12 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

But Works used to be bundled with other software packages on some
computer systems. My Dell with Win 98 came with version 4 of Works.



Yes, but it was bundled by Dell in what they sold you. It did *not*
come with Windows. Some OEM machines were also bundled with Microsoft
Office.

Agreed, but I didn't intentionally mean to imply it was part of Windows.
Just that it was a separate program included with some computer packages.



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In message , BillW50
writes:
In ,
J. P. Gilliver (John) typed:
In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.

Actually they were a separate product from MS Works. And they came under
the following names:

Home Essentials 97
Home Essentials 98
Works Suite 99
Works Deluxe 99
Works Suite 2000
Works Suite 2001
Works Suite 2002
Works Suite 2003
Works Suite 2004
Works Suite 2005
Works Suite 2006
Works Plus 2008

OK, you got me! I remembered seeing _something_ with the word "Works"
somewhere on the packaging, but that included Word.

They included a lot more than just Word (except for Works Plus 2008).
For example, Works Suite 2006 also included Encarta Standard, Money,

Oh yes, I remember those (vaguely!) now.

Streets and Trips Essentials, and Digital Image Standard. The Chicago
Tribune called them as "one of the best bargains ever offered."

It might well have been, at that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Works

Thanks for that.
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:40:17 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/14/14 8:37 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:17:32 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/13/14 7:12 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:55:52 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Springer
writes:
[]
I've never used Works, nor had a copy past vers. 4, but I've always
felt the later versions of Works had about the same abilities of Word
6, more or less.

Well, the very last few versions, I think, actually came with Word,
rather than the Works word processor.


Last few versions of what? Windows?

Neither Windows 7, nor any other version of Windows (except Windows 8
RT), has ever included Works, Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access, nor any
other significant application software. Such programs have to be
bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft Office.

But Works used to be bundled with other software packages on some
computer systems. My Dell with Win 98 came with version 4 of Works.



Yes, but it was bundled by Dell in what they sold you. It did *not*
come with Windows. Some OEM machines were also bundled with Microsoft
Office.

Agreed, but I didn't intentionally mean to imply it was part of Windows.
Just that it was a separate program included with some computer packages.



OK, but when your reply began with "but," I assumed that you were
disagreeing with what I said.


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