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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me)
hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
In message , Bob F
writes: Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. No; my FF 26 does occasionally crash, but I think more rarely than that (and nearly always recoverably). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf It is dangerous to be sincere, unless you are also stupid. - George Bernard Shaw |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
Bob F wrote:
Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. My XP machine uses FF 27. It crashes once every few months. |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
Bob F wrote:
Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. I'm working on something similar. The details are quite different, so about all I can do, is point in one particular direction. The only progress I've made so far, is to do a debug build, which enables console messages after Firefox starts. And I see Firefox go into a loop on a particular ASSERT() statement. When you don't use a debug build, with console output, then the thing will loop silently and appear hung. Firefox has "fatal" ASSERTs in the JavaScript engine, and "warning" ASSERTs in the display rendering code. And the problem I'm working on is in the display rendering code. This message prints in a tight loop to my debug console. [31718] ###!!! ASSERTION: available space should never grow: 'aOldAvailableSpace.IStart(aWM) = aNewAvailableSpace.IStart(aWM) && aOldAvailableSpace.IEnd(aWM) = aNewAvailableSpace.IEnd(aWM)', file nsBlockFrame.cpp, line 922 There are no debug builds in the tree, just release ones, so you have to build your own. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/fire...leases/43.0.4/ A rough recipe would be: 1) Acquire Visual Studio Express (Community Edition) 2) The Firefox build environment just runs the compiler and linker from a shell environment. The VS IDE is not used. Getting Visual Studio Express is just to get compiler and linker. You might need some SDK for header files, libraries and so on. 3) Problems include, not enough address space on a 32 bit OS to complete the build any more. I had to move the kernel/userspace split, to make 3GB available the last time, and it just barely fit. Which means some careful consideration has to go into your build environment, before you start. The purpose of all this, is so you can report some message the browser spits out, rather than a generic "it be loopin". And if you need a link to hang a recent Firefox, you can try this. This is my test case. For most people, DON'T CLICK THIS. This is only for people who need to test their browser, and it's already doing the recovery thing at the beginning. An older browser will likely not have a problem. https://www.links.hr/hr/adapter-poe-...nog-kabla-0535 "Are we having fun yet ?" Paul |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
Paul wrote:
Bob F wrote: Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. I'm working on something similar. The details are quite different, so about all I can do, is point in one particular direction. The only progress I've made so far, is to do a debug build, which enables console messages after Firefox starts. And I see Firefox go into a loop on a particular ASSERT() statement. When you don't use a debug build, with console output, then the thing will loop silently and appear hung. Firefox has "fatal" ASSERTs in the JavaScript engine, and "warning" ASSERTs in the display rendering code. And the problem I'm working on is in the display rendering code. This message prints in a tight loop to my debug console. [31718] ###!!! ASSERTION: available space should never grow: 'aOldAvailableSpace.IStart(aWM) = aNewAvailableSpace.IStart(aWM) && aOldAvailableSpace.IEnd(aWM) = aNewAvailableSpace.IEnd(aWM)', file nsBlockFrame.cpp, line 922 There are no debug builds in the tree, just release ones, so you have to build your own. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/fire...leases/43.0.4/ A rough recipe would be: 1) Acquire Visual Studio Express (Community Edition) 2) The Firefox build environment just runs the compiler and linker from a shell environment. The VS IDE is not used. Getting Visual Studio Express is just to get compiler and linker. You might need some SDK for header files, libraries and so on. 3) Problems include, not enough address space on a 32 bit OS to complete the build any more. I had to move the kernel/userspace split, to make 3GB available the last time, and it just barely fit. Which means some careful consideration has to go into your build environment, before you start. The purpose of all this, is so you can report some message the browser spits out, rather than a generic "it be loopin". And if you need a link to hang a recent Firefox, you can try this. This is my test case. For most people, DON'T CLICK THIS. This is only for people who need to test their browser, and it's already doing the recovery thing at the beginning. An older browser will likely not have a problem. https://www.links.hr/hr/adapter-poe-...nog-kabla-0535 Sounds a lot like my problem. Sometimes, the machine will just hang for awhile (minutes or more), and sometimes it will not recover, and I have to close firefox and re-open it. Occasionally, the whole computer hangs (no cursor movement) and I have to restart, but that is much less often. |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
Bob F wrote on 2016/01/17:
Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. Review what add-ons that you installed to Firefox. Disable them all for long enough to be sure whether the problem continues or went away. Then reenable one at a time and retest just that one. Enable only one at a time, not enable one, enable another, etc. Add-ons can conflict with each other so just test one at a time. Hanging can be caused by bad scripts at the sites that you visit. Disable Javascripting when visiting those pages that cause frequent hangs in Firefox. Without the scripts, perhaps those pages won't hang anymore and maybe you really don't need scripting for those pages to make them usable. Crashes should be recorded in Firefox (about:crashes). |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 14:51:11 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Bob F wrote on 2016/01/17: Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. Review what add-ons that you installed to Firefox. Disable them all for long enough to be sure whether the problem continues or went away. Then reenable one at a time and retest just that one. Enable only one at a time, not enable one, enable another, etc. Add-ons can conflict with each other so just test one at a time. Hanging can be caused by bad scripts at the sites that you visit. Disable Javascripting when visiting those pages that cause frequent hangs in Firefox. Without the scripts, perhaps those pages won't hang anymore and maybe you really don't need scripting for those pages to make them usable. Crashes should be recorded in Firefox (about:crashes). Every time I have a freeze up I believe it was a scripting bug. I have suspended Flash (get the dialog box) and I really don't miss it if I am not intentionally streaming video. |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
VanguardLH wrote:
Bob F wrote on 2016/01/17: Is this just me or does everyone have problems with Firefox (V42.0 for me) hanging or crashing regularly? It seems like it happens at least once or twice a week. Review what add-ons that you installed to Firefox. Disable them all for long enough to be sure whether the problem continues or went away. Then reenable one at a time and retest just that one. Enable only one at a time, not enable one, enable another, etc. Add-ons can conflict with each other so just test one at a time. Hanging can be caused by bad scripts at the sites that you visit. Disable Javascripting when visiting those pages that cause frequent hangs in Firefox. Without the scripts, perhaps those pages won't hang anymore and maybe you really don't need scripting for those pages to make them usable. Crashes should be recorded in Firefox (about:crashes).\ No add-ons, and flash has to ask me to run. |
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Firefox on XP - frequent hangs/crashes
In message , VanguardLH
writes: [] Review what add-ons that you installed to Firefox. Disable them all for long enough to be sure whether the problem continues or went away. Then reenable one at a time and retest just that one. Enable only one at a time, not enable one, enable another, etc. Add-ons can conflict with each other so just test one at a time. [] No, enable half of them, then (if no failure) half of what's left or (if failure) half of those you enabled, and so on. OK, because of interactions, you _may_ have to retrace and try combinations, but a binary search is a lot quicker than one-at-a-time ... (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Insane people are crazy, not stupid. - kenckar, 2015-7-23 |
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