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Old January 15th 16, 02:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy
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Old January 15th 16, 03:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy


If you do a printscreen or do a screen snapshot,
is the square present in the captured picture ?

Paul
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Old January 15th 16, 05:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy


If you do a printscreen or do a screen snapshot,
is the square present in the captured picture ?

Paul


Square does not show on captured screen.

Andy
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Old January 15th 16, 06:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:55:44 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy


If you do a printscreen or do a screen snapshot,
is the square present in the captured picture ?

Paul


Square does not show on captured screen.

Andy


What happens if you change the screen resolution?
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Old January 15th 16, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Andy wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy

If you do a printscreen or do a screen snapshot,
is the square present in the captured picture ?

Paul


Square does not show on captured screen.

Andy


So it could be an artifact of failing
video card hardware. You never know.

Or another theory would be, the desktop uses
a 2D plane, the square is created by some 3D code
(which won't be captured by a screenshot).

That's one reason for asking the question - if
it doesn't appear in a screenshot, it implies
a different code path for it to get there.

You should also compare the transparent square, to
the OSD decorations, to see if the square is
coming from the chip inside the monitor. You would
try the video card output on another monitor, to
get some idea whether the problem follows the
monitor, or follows the video card around.

Paul
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Old January 15th 16, 07:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:51:24 PM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy
If you do a printscreen or do a screen snapshot,
is the square present in the captured picture ?

Paul


Square does not show on captured screen.

Andy


So it could be an artifact of failing
video card hardware. You never know.

Or another theory would be, the desktop uses
a 2D plane, the square is created by some 3D code
(which won't be captured by a screenshot).

That's one reason for asking the question - if
it doesn't appear in a screenshot, it implies
a different code path for it to get there.

You should also compare the transparent square, to
the OSD decorations, to see if the square is
coming from the chip inside the monitor. You would
try the video card output on another monitor, to
get some idea whether the problem follows the
monitor, or follows the video card around.

Paul


Unfortunately I do not have another monitor to test.

I had someone from France tell me that those squares are common in LCD monitors.

One of those mysteries.

I will live with it.

Andy
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Old January 16th 16, 07:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:52:47 -0800 (PST), Andy wrote:

Unfortunately I do not have another monitor to test.

I had someone from France tell me that those squares are common in LCD monitors.

One of those mysteries.

I will live with it.

Andy


Could be dead pixels then.
AFAIK, dead pixels only exist on early LCD monitors.
Cause nowadays it's difficult to find one even on cheap LCD monitors from
dodgy manufacturers.
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Old January 16th 16, 10:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , JJ
writes:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:52:47 -0800 (PST), Andy wrote:

Unfortunately I do not have another monitor to test.

I had someone from France tell me that those squares are common in
LCD monitors.

One of those mysteries.

I will live with it.

Andy


Could be dead pixels then.
AFAIK, dead pixels only exist on early LCD monitors.
Cause nowadays it's difficult to find one even on cheap LCD monitors from
dodgy manufacturers.


When you say a 2×2 square, do you mean two inches (or centimetres), or
just two pixels? (The question someone asked about does it
move/disappear at different resolutions is also of interest).

I'm also not sure what you mean by transparent; stuck light, or stuck
dark, or you can see what's supposed to be there but lighter/darker? And
(assuming you do mean a large area not just four pixels) do you mean a
solid square or just a border (if the latter, how many pixels wide)?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence'. Professor Edzart Ernst, prudential
magazine, AUTUMN 2006, p. 13.
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Old January 16th 16, 03:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_11_]
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:28:14 -0800 (PST), Andy wrote:
I have about a 2 x 2 "transparent square" on my monitor when it is on.

I am thinking either monitor or graphics care issue ?

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Andy


It could be a window that belongs to a buggy software.
If it actually a window, you can identify it using WinID.

http://dennisbabkin.com/winid/

First, open Notepad and move it's window so that the 2x2 pixels are above
Notepad window. Run WinID, press ALT to open its popup menu, make sure the
"Paths & Priorities" menu item is checked, move the cursor onto the 2x2
pixels, then see the "Img" and "Mod" fields on the WinID window.

If it shows a program file path other than the Notepad's program file path,
then you have found the culprit. If it shows the Notepad's program file
path, then that 2x2 pixels could be either graphics card memory fault, or
LCD monitor dead pixels.

If they're dead pixels, you may notice them even when before Windows is
loaded. Try entering your BIOS setup, since there's non black background.
Adjust your monitor setting aspect ratio (if available) if the BIOS screen
doesn't fill all of the LCD monitor screen (i.e. make the text shows as
horizontally stretched).
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Old January 18th 16, 01:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:54:14 AM UTC-6, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , JJ
writes:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:52:47 -0800 (PST), Andy wrote:

Unfortunately I do not have another monitor to test.

I had someone from France tell me that those squares are common in
LCD monitors.

One of those mysteries.

I will live with it.

Andy


Could be dead pixels then.
AFAIK, dead pixels only exist on early LCD monitors.
Cause nowadays it's difficult to find one even on cheap LCD monitors from
dodgy manufacturers.


When you say a 2×2 square, do you mean two inches (or centimetres), or
just two pixels? (The question someone asked about does it
move/disappear at different resolutions is also of interest).

I'm also not sure what you mean by transparent; stuck light, or stuck
dark, or you can see what's supposed to be there but lighter/darker? And
(assuming you do mean a large area not just four pixels) do you mean a
solid square or just a border (if the latter, how many pixels wide)?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence'. Professor Edzart Ernst, prudential
magazine, AUTUMN 2006, p. 13.


2 x 2 inches.

The square has a lighter color than what is around it.

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Old January 18th 16, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , Andy
writes:
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:54:14 AM UTC-6, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
I'm also not sure what you mean by transparent; stuck light, or stuck
dark, or you can see what's supposed to be there but lighter/darker? And
(assuming you do mean a large area not just four pixels) do you mean a
solid square or just a border (if the latter, how many pixels wide)?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence'. Professor Edzart Ernst,
prudential
magazine, AUTUMN 2006, p. 13.


2 x 2 inches.

The square has a lighter color than what is around it.

1. Does it move or disappear if you change resolution?
2. Is it a solid 2×2 inch block that's lighter, or just an outline?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The first banjo solo I played was actually just a series of mistakes. In fact
it was all the mistakes I knew at the time. - Tim Dowling, RT2015/6/20-26
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Old January 19th 16, 01:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 4:51:26 PM UTC-6, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Andy
writes:
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:54:14 AM UTC-6, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[]
I'm also not sure what you mean by transparent; stuck light, or stuck
dark, or you can see what's supposed to be there but lighter/darker? And
(assuming you do mean a large area not just four pixels) do you mean a
solid square or just a border (if the latter, how many pixels wide)?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence'. Professor Edzart Ernst,
prudential
magazine, AUTUMN 2006, p. 13.


2 x 2 inches.

The square has a lighter color than what is around it.

1. Does it move or disappear if you change resolution?
2. Is it a solid 2×2 inch block that's lighter, or just an outline?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The first banjo solo I played was actually just a series of mistakes. In fact
it was all the mistakes I knew at the time. - Tim Dowling, RT2015/6/20-26


It does not move when resolution is changed.

I am no longer worried about it.

It's only a backup monitor.

Andy
 




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