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Old June 9th 16, 12:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default XP re-installation

My hard drive died.

I had Windows XP and Linux installed.

I have the BOUGHT and PAID for installation disk for XP.

When I tried to re-install it, it said it was shutting down to protect my computer.

What the hell is going on ?

I have two partitions, an ext3 one and a fat 32 one.

Many thanks for any positive responses. :-)

Andy
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Old June 9th 16, 05:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default XP re-installation

Andy wrote:
My hard drive died.

I had Windows XP and Linux installed.

I have the BOUGHT and PAID for installation disk for XP.

When I tried to re-install it, it said it was shutting down to protect my computer.

What the hell is going on ?

I have two partitions, an ext3 one and a fat 32 one.

Many thanks for any positive responses. :-)

Andy


At a guess.

1) You're using a WinXP Gold installation CD.
This might be circa 2002.

2) You are then connecting the WinXP Gold computer
to the Internet, without an IPV4 NAT router. Computers
running a copy of SASSER, still sit on the Internet
and can still infect unpatched directly connected computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasser_(computer_worm)

You're being infected from the Internet, LSASS is dying,
the 60 second timer starts.

You should have made yourself a slipstreamed installer
disc *long ago* , using NLiteOS and a copy of SP3 standalone
or similar.

Possible install options (use any one method from the list):

1) Install WinXP Gold.
Install xpsp1a_en_x86.exe 131,170,400 bytes
Install WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

(xpsp1a_en_x86 is a copy of xpsp1 with MSJAVA removed
as a result of the court settlement)

2) Install WinXP Gold.
Install WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe 278,927,592 bytes
Install WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

3) Get a copy of NLiteOS slipstreaming software.
Load WinXP Gold CD into it.
Load WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Create WinXP SP3 disc.
Install WinXP SP3.
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

4) Install WinXP Gold
Install any free AV program which carries its own
up-to-date virus definitions. So it doesn't have to
connect to the Internet immediately to be functional.
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_...irus_setup.exe 216,055,296 bytes
Use the rest of some part of the other methods.

For a WinXP computer to work with Windows Update, sometimes
there is an issue with the copy of IE on there. The last
time I had to do it, I installed IE7_standalone long enough
to do Windows Updates up-to-date, then uninstalled IE7 to
return the OS to "pristine state". Without that, there may
be some sort of HTML problem with the copy of IE.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...XP-x86-enu.exe

15,452,536 bytes

And you cannot connect your IE7 enhanced OS to the Internet,
until you're patched well enough to stop SASSER.

To verify you have SASSER onboard, you can use the
Kaspersky rescue CD and scan the system. Kaspersky is
a Linux based CD that boots the computer and it then
does an "offline" scan of the WinXP C: .

[ Where it says ~375MB, that's the ISO9660 you want
to download and burn. ]

http://support.kaspersky.com/8092

*******

This is SP3.

WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe

331,805,736 bytes
MD5 = bb25707c919dd835a9d9706b5725af58
SHA1 = c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4
SHA256 = 62e524a552db9f6fd22d469010ea4d7e28ee06fa615a1c3436 2129f808916654

Last known good location:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe

Note - the following link wastes the bandwidth of archive.org .
Consider giving them a donation.

WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (Click the Start Download button if it doesn't start)
278,927,592 bytes
MD5 = 59a98f181fe383907e520a391d75b5a7
SHA1 = 33a8fef60d48ae1f2c4feea27111af5ceca3c4f6
SHA256 = 8e4c617eb3b8c61f5d8011aa0e692829a5166bd73e9064e5d3 18f4579dcc8dfa

https://web.archive.org/web/20120420...35-SP2-ENU.exe

Note - the following link wastes the bandwidth of archive.org .
Consider giving them a donation.

xpsp1a_en_x86.exe (Click the Start Download button if it doesn't start)
131,170,400 bytes
MD5 = 363af75cf99d554f8c4420448f2e0669
SHA1 = 33326bbe6b0a06726a4d5e9d27ae4fb2169d2f7f
SHA256 = 265bcb1f9bd3ee01dad3d1271a3d149a468d50413b0fc46e6f 42f0f79038899e

https://web.archive.org/web/20060209...p1a_en_x86.exe

Rules of thumb (from memory):

An SP3 computer - just use Windows Update
An SP2 computer - install SP3 cumulative
An Sp1a computer - install SP3 cumulative
A gold computer - install SP1a and SP3 *or*
install SP2 and SP3
- while SP3 is cumulative, there is some issue
with applying it directly to Gold.

Other notes. Microsoft is vindictive. They have been known
to use Copyright takedown to remove materials from archive.org .
And if we "burn a hole" in archive.org, the webmaster there
can also remove content which is driving up the download bill.
Strictly speaking, archive.org doesn't appreciate the uncovering
of large large downloads, that really should be provided by
Microsoft. So when I provide example links above, look in
your file collection first and maybe you've already got the
files in question.

I'm not an IT guy. I haven't tested all these recipes.
I don't own a WinXP Gold CD, which is why I haven't
tested them. I keep the above materials, for patching
the computer of a relative. As well as a copy of Wsusoffline
with a WinXP archive, to reduce the need to do updates over
dialup.

HTH,
Paul
  #3  
Old June 10th 16, 11:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default XP re-installation

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:00:14 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
My hard drive died.

I had Windows XP and Linux installed.

I have the BOUGHT and PAID for installation disk for XP.

When I tried to re-install it, it said it was shutting down to protect my computer.

What the hell is going on ?

I have two partitions, an ext3 one and a fat 32 one.

Many thanks for any positive responses. :-)

Andy


At a guess.

1) You're using a WinXP Gold installation CD.
This might be circa 2002.

2) You are then connecting the WinXP Gold computer
to the Internet, without an IPV4 NAT router. Computers
running a copy of SASSER, still sit on the Internet
and can still infect unpatched directly connected computers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasser_(computer_worm)

You're being infected from the Internet, LSASS is dying,
the 60 second timer starts.

You should have made yourself a slipstreamed installer
disc *long ago* , using NLiteOS and a copy of SP3 standalone
or similar.

Possible install options (use any one method from the list):

1) Install WinXP Gold.
Install xpsp1a_en_x86.exe 131,170,400 bytes
Install WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

(xpsp1a_en_x86 is a copy of xpsp1 with MSJAVA removed
as a result of the court settlement)

2) Install WinXP Gold.
Install WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe 278,927,592 bytes
Install WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

3) Get a copy of NLiteOS slipstreaming software.
Load WinXP Gold CD into it.
Load WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe 331,805,736 bytes
Create WinXP SP3 disc.
Install WinXP SP3.
Install IE7
Now, connect new computer to Internet.
Run Windows Update (long wait until menu appears)

4) Install WinXP Gold
Install any free AV program which carries its own
up-to-date virus definitions. So it doesn't have to
connect to the Internet immediately to be functional.
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_...irus_setup.exe 216,055,296 bytes
Use the rest of some part of the other methods.

For a WinXP computer to work with Windows Update, sometimes
there is an issue with the copy of IE on there. The last
time I had to do it, I installed IE7_standalone long enough
to do Windows Updates up-to-date, then uninstalled IE7 to
return the OS to "pristine state". Without that, there may
be some sort of HTML problem with the copy of IE.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...XP-x86-enu.exe

15,452,536 bytes

And you cannot connect your IE7 enhanced OS to the Internet,
until you're patched well enough to stop SASSER.

To verify you have SASSER onboard, you can use the
Kaspersky rescue CD and scan the system. Kaspersky is
a Linux based CD that boots the computer and it then
does an "offline" scan of the WinXP C: .

[ Where it says ~375MB, that's the ISO9660 you want
to download and burn. ]

http://support.kaspersky.com/8092

*******

This is SP3.

WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe

331,805,736 bytes
MD5 = bb25707c919dd835a9d9706b5725af58
SHA1 = c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4
SHA256 = 62e524a552db9f6fd22d469010ea4d7e28ee06fa615a1c3436 2129f808916654

Last known good location:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe

Note - the following link wastes the bandwidth of archive.org .
Consider giving them a donation.

WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (Click the Start Download button if it doesn't start)
278,927,592 bytes
MD5 = 59a98f181fe383907e520a391d75b5a7
SHA1 = 33a8fef60d48ae1f2c4feea27111af5ceca3c4f6
SHA256 = 8e4c617eb3b8c61f5d8011aa0e692829a5166bd73e9064e5d3 18f4579dcc8dfa

https://web.archive.org/web/20120420...35-SP2-ENU.exe

Note - the following link wastes the bandwidth of archive.org .
Consider giving them a donation.

xpsp1a_en_x86.exe (Click the Start Download button if it doesn't start)
131,170,400 bytes
MD5 = 363af75cf99d554f8c4420448f2e0669
SHA1 = 33326bbe6b0a06726a4d5e9d27ae4fb2169d2f7f
SHA256 = 265bcb1f9bd3ee01dad3d1271a3d149a468d50413b0fc46e6f 42f0f79038899e

https://web.archive.org/web/20060209...p1a_en_x86.exe

Rules of thumb (from memory):

An SP3 computer - just use Windows Update
An SP2 computer - install SP3 cumulative
An Sp1a computer - install SP3 cumulative
A gold computer - install SP1a and SP3 *or*
install SP2 and SP3
- while SP3 is cumulative, there is some issue
with applying it directly to Gold.

Other notes. Microsoft is vindictive. They have been known
to use Copyright takedown to remove materials from archive.org .
And if we "burn a hole" in archive.org, the webmaster there
can also remove content which is driving up the download bill.
Strictly speaking, archive.org doesn't appreciate the uncovering
of large large downloads, that really should be provided by
Microsoft. So when I provide example links above, look in
your file collection first and maybe you've already got the
files in question.

I'm not an IT guy. I haven't tested all these recipes.
I don't own a WinXP Gold CD, which is why I haven't
tested them. I keep the above materials, for patching
the computer of a relative. As well as a copy of Wsusoffline
with a WinXP archive, to reduce the need to do updates over
dialup.

HTH,
Paul


I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy
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Old June 10th 16, 11:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default XP re-installation

Andy wrote:


I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy


You're going to need your thinking cap then.

I don't have any pointers to stuff that old.

Some upgrade discs, it was sufficient for
the qualifying OS CD to be present in the
drive. So the OS didn't have to be present
on the hard drive.

Are you sure you don't have a backup of a
C: drive from that era, somewhere ? Or even
an actual C: drive ? Like, sitting in
some old unused computer in the attic ?

Paul
  #5  
Old June 11th 16, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike S[_4_]
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Default XP re-installation

On 6/8/2016 4:37 PM, Andy wrote:
My hard drive died.
I had Windows XP and Linux installed.
I have the BOUGHT and PAID for installation disk for XP.
When I tried to re-install it, it said it was shutting down to protect my computer.
What the hell is going on ?
I have two partitions, an ext3 one and a fat 32 one.
Many thanks for any positive responses. :-)
Andy


What do you mean by "died"? You said it died then you said you were
re-installing to it.
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Old June 11th 16, 04:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default XP re-installation

[Default] On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:39:24 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul wrote:

Andy wrote:


I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy


You're going to need your thinking cap then.

I don't have any pointers to stuff that old.

Some upgrade discs, it was sufficient for
the qualifying OS CD to be present in the
drive. So the OS didn't have to be present
on the hard drive.

Are you sure you don't have a backup of a
C: drive from that era, somewhere ? Or even
an actual C: drive ? Like, sitting in
some old unused computer in the attic ?

Paul


Can he buy a used XP computer for 30 dollars at a hamfest, or
craigslist, and somehow make it run on his computer?
  #7  
Old June 11th 16, 11:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default XP re-installation

Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:39:24 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul wrote:

Andy wrote:

I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy

You're going to need your thinking cap then.

I don't have any pointers to stuff that old.

Some upgrade discs, it was sufficient for
the qualifying OS CD to be present in the
drive. So the OS didn't have to be present
on the hard drive.

Are you sure you don't have a backup of a
C: drive from that era, somewhere ? Or even
an actual C: drive ? Like, sitting in
some old unused computer in the attic ?

Paul


Can he buy a used XP computer for 30 dollars at a hamfest, or
craigslist, and somehow make it run on his computer?


Edit the PID on setupp.ini on the disc image, then
burn a new disc ? The original site is gone, but
it's in the Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070513...ver-retail.htm

Paul
  #8  
Old June 11th 16, 10:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default XP re-installation

On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 5:54:40 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:39:24 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul wrote:

Andy wrote:

I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy
You're going to need your thinking cap then.

I don't have any pointers to stuff that old.

Some upgrade discs, it was sufficient for
the qualifying OS CD to be present in the
drive. So the OS didn't have to be present
on the hard drive.

Are you sure you don't have a backup of a
C: drive from that era, somewhere ? Or even
an actual C: drive ? Like, sitting in
some old unused computer in the attic ?

Paul


Can he buy a used XP computer for 30 dollars at a hamfest, or
craigslist, and somehow make it run on his computer?


Edit the PID on setupp.ini on the disc image, then
burn a new disc ? The original site is gone, but
it's in the Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070513...ver-retail.htm

Paul


Thanks for the replies.

I decided to stick with Linux as my O.S.

andy
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Old June 11th 16, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default XP re-installation

On 11/06/2016 22:24, Andy wrote:
I decided to stick with Linux as my O.S. andy


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Old June 11th 16, 11:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default XP re-installation

Andy wrote:
On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 5:54:40 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:39:24 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul wrote:

Andy wrote:

I have no problem in the past re-installing XP from the same disk.

Even if the disk was working, I no longer have my Win 98 disk.

Since XP requires an older Win version to be already present on the hard disk.

Andy
You're going to need your thinking cap then.

I don't have any pointers to stuff that old.

Some upgrade discs, it was sufficient for
the qualifying OS CD to be present in the
drive. So the OS didn't have to be present
on the hard drive.

Are you sure you don't have a backup of a
C: drive from that era, somewhere ? Or even
an actual C: drive ? Like, sitting in
some old unused computer in the attic ?

Paul
Can he buy a used XP computer for 30 dollars at a hamfest, or
craigslist, and somehow make it run on his computer?

Edit the PID on setupp.ini on the disc image, then
burn a new disc ? The original site is gone, but
it's in the Archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070513...ver-retail.htm

Paul


Thanks for the replies.

I decided to stick with Linux as my O.S.

andy


Here is a list for setupp.ini .

http://wiki.lunarsoft.net/wiki/Product_IDs

"Windows XP Pro OEM SP3 GRTMPOEM_EN 4-14-08 5:00 76487 OEM"

Here's an example from mine, a System Builder
(OEM) from Canada. Doesn't do a CD check for Win98
or anything :-)

[Pid]
ExtraData=786F687170637175716954806365EF
Pid=76487OEM

Since the number of characters needing editing
is small, it's possible ripping your WinXP CD,
finding the three characters of interest and changing
them with a hex editor, then re-burn some media,
may be sufficient to do the job. No need
to load the ISO9660 into a proper editor. Worth
a shot if you have some re-writable media (so it
doesn't cost anything to try).

Finding a hex editor you can live with, is a lifetime
research project. Only a couple of months ago, I
tried out HxD (a 64 bit version) and finally,
I can work on 30GB files with ease. My previous
hex editor was only comfortable at the 1GB level.
And would be suited to this hex edit of the
CD image.

You know when doing dual boot of course, there
are "easy" install orders and "hard" install orders.
Where doing OS installs in the wrong order, requires
you know what you're doing when repairing later. To
test the newly minted WinXP CD, I'd apply that
to a blank hard drive, and see what happens. It's
either that, or do a backup of your Linux drive
before WinXP blows away the MBR on you. Save the
MBR using "dd", if you want an easy repair later. As
that is what WinXP would damage. You only need to put
back the code section of the MBR (446 bytes) and not
modify the partition table (512 bytes).

[In Linux, this saves the MBR before the WinXP install happens...]

sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=~/winxp_cant_hurt_my_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1

Reinstalling the code section later, requires a sub-sized write.
Something like this. Research the details.

[In Windows, administrator command prompt window]

http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.6beta3.zip

dd --list # returns identifier of each disk, sda assumed in this example
# Current directory assumed to contain the 512 byte .bin file.

dd if=winxp_cant_hurt_my_mbr.bin of=\\?\Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 bs=446 count=1

That's the basic idea of a cleanup of a wrong-order install.

Note that the Chrysocome port doesn't always have write
permission, so sometimes you'd need a Linux LiveCD to
do it (i.e. go back to Linux Land to finish the job,
and bring your Linux install back to life as boot
manager).

sudo dd if=/media/mount/harddrive/home/andy/winxp_cant_hurt_my_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1

HTH,
Paul
 




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